Dundee United » Merry Christmas Chaps and Lassies » 25/12/2020 12:07 am |
Like it says, have a good time, and look forward to the future.
All the best.
Dundee United » Utd Loan Watch - 20/21 » 26/11/2020 11:56 am |
Tek wrote:
I meant you in the main ignoring other posters positive posts.
But i will let you have the last word on the subject as it's rumbled on for days and it is not only very boring but also derailing the thread.
I didn't realise people posted here to be praised, but here's a recent post of mine on a thread you started:
PatReilly wrote:
A lot of well balanced views up there from Morphman, LarsErikKjell, Lilley01, Beharder, TangerineDream and BMT. Heartening to know supporters are showing patience in these difficult times. Plenty of other shit to complain about away from United's performances.
And it was you who started the Hoti 'not interested' rumour here, I countered your view.
That's my last words on the topic.
Dundee United » Utd Loan Watch - 20/21 » 25/11/2020 1:24 pm |
Tek wrote:
Pat, you can keep going with this all week if you want to.
Personally it's boring me now. You've jumped on not just this initial post but the Liam Smith one, claiming folk (myself included) love 'a moan'.
But you have purposely (i notice) ignored all the positive posts on here from others , since Saturday regards Nicky Clark, Chris Mochrie, Marc McNulty and Archie Meekison to name a few. One could say you're the one looking to moan about something.
If something is personally boring you, you could turn a blind eye it, the same as you ignored this comment about Marc McNulty a few minutes after Saturday's match>
PatReilly wrote:
SuperMario wrote:
Mellon out and take mcnulty with him
Bit harsh SuperMario.
McNulty did well at both goals, but generally that was a hard, hard watch.
and this one about Nicky Clark on Sunday morning, on a thread you started>
PatReilly wrote:
An especially good second goal from Nicky Clark yesterday, and he has got a few which has secured points this season. Quite a few times I've thought Clark's contributions would mean his opportunities would be limited, but he's been one of the positives of 2020 for me, badly missed following his injury last season too.
In short, what you've written isn't true.
Dundee United » Utd Loan Watch - 20/21 » 25/11/2020 8:08 am |
Tek wrote:
dufc2019 wrote:
"Got hooked cause he was absolutely honking."
Quote from a Forfar supporter on P&BWhat a moany bastard. Did he have no regard for whether Utd's coaching staff were looking in on the Forum?
Noticed that DundeeUnited9999 asked, on the Forfar thread whether Hoti "got taken off cause he looked like he wasnt interested, is that true ? "
Only one person responded, more than a day later, that he was 'honking'. If the pair of you believe that single poster, then it's should be clear to you he wasn't subbied for being 'not interested'.
Dundee United » Utd Loan Watch - 20/21 » 24/11/2020 8:07 pm |
Finn Seemann wrote:
Don't disagree with the majority of that, but the fact that Hoti was not what the club sold him as is true and his hiring did seem a little strange given what we really needed. I therefore disagree that you shouldn't question the signing policy and by dint of that what was behind it.
As for your own negativity, (inevitably falling down the table), you need to give yourself a shake - we're set for Europe...
I've shaken myself, Finn!
Still don't think we'll finish in the top five.
I recall Hoti signing, the club talked him up in terms of potential, but why wouldn't they? I think some of the words printed and said have been taken and twisted as assurances, which they weren't: you'd have to be very naive to think Melon and Asghar were making guarantees for this season for a lad who isn't yet 20.
I think it's fair enough, however, to question the club's signing policy. But we'd all be best agreeing to disagree over the dealings regarding Florent Hoti.
Dundee United » Utd Loan Watch - 20/21 » 24/11/2020 5:51 pm |
Tek wrote:
I did say if true.
The 'rumour' was started by Forfar people btw. Are they making it up?
As for their coaching staff being the problem. Utd sent him there. Maybe be 'exasperated' with them?
If United staff look in here, as you've said, they'll know what I think of the way the Forfar people deal with players.
I don't know if the Forfar people are 'making it up', but it would serve their cause to blame the players, assuming 'Forfar people' refers to Stuart Malcolm's coaching staff. The Forfar staff have an abysmal record.
Anyway, the two points you've covered there are very minor parts of my post.
dufc2019 wrote:
Hoti played today against Dundee, quite a remarkable recovery.
I don't know, I've seen players taken off and play a few days later. What was his injury that made his comeback remarkable?
Shedtastic wrote:
Forfar were 3-1 down after 20 mins, could the manager not just made changes to his formation etc and Hoti was sacrificed to avoid a pumping and to make them more solid, it worked cos they never lost anymore goals.
That could well have been the case, Shedtastic, I don't know if he was injured.
My frustration stems from the apparent need to have something to complain about: this week as we sit in fifth place and on a mini unbeaten run, it's the turn of Florent Hoti, and by extension some United staff, especially Tony Asghar. Yet there's no reason at all for these criticisms, and, in fact, Hoti provided one of the few highlights for the Loons on Saturday, as revealed by the YouTube coverage, above. Liam Smith was getting a major condemnation as well after Saturday's victory, even although he was instrumental in the comeback.
I dread to watch the state of some supporters when we inevitably lose points over the next month or so, and fall down the table.
Dundee United » Utd Loan Watch - 20/21 » 24/11/2020 1:59 pm |
I'm a bit exasperated by some of the following quotes:
Tek wrote:
Also on Saturday in Scottish League One Florent Hoti started for Forfar Athletic in their 3-1 home defeat to Airdrie. He was however substituted after just 36 minutes and my Forfar mole tells me that he wasn't injured and instead was subbed off because he 'didn't look interested'. Not great (if true).
Arabdownsouth wrote:
Doesn't sound like he's got a great attitude. Very peculiar signing I'd have to say.
Finn Seemann wrote:
A boy who has played very little football thinking he is coming to Tannadice to get a game for any international team is living in cloud cuckoo land. He seems a very strange one to me. As said by someone else on another forum, someone will have done OK out of the arrangement...
Rumours and insinuations are maybe what makes a forum, but it doesn't help a young player's outlook.
From my own very limited view, Hoti appeared to play as well as any Forfar player on Saturday, showed a bit of skill, but took a knock. He wasn't the first player ever to be substituted in the initial half of a match, and it'll happen again soon enough. I'm not making any of this up.
A thing I will say regarding sending him to Forfar, he's not going to progress greatly there unless they change the coaching staff, which is likely soon. The 'encouragement' from them seems to involve inane drivel and swearing.
Here's a still from Station Park, Hoti is number 7. He's just received a throw in 25 yeard out on the left, carried the ball into the box, played a one-two and struck the bar from an acute angle. Forfar scored their only goal from this move.
I've seen United supporters on other forum suggesting he was taken off the pitch for not trying, but I doubt any have bothered looking at his contributions for Forfar on the available evidence, preferring to complain on the basis of v
Dundee United » Utd v Accies - 21/11/20 » 23/11/2020 8:36 pm |
I don't think Reynolds should have left his man when we have three centre halves: he ran towards the position of the other two, and to my mind we have too many players in there. However, I understand why MM is choosing to play all three, even if I don't agree with it as it perhaps affects the other players.
Taking Liam Smith, he looked more confident when we went 4-4-2. The other forward thinking players too looked more comfortable, maybe it was the substitutions, maybe it was desperation, but generally we seemed to make more positive passes.
Finally, I'm confident that if each of the three central defenders simply had to defend, and not have possession of the ball for more than a second or two, we'd do a whole lot better. None of them can pass the ball consistently or accurately forwards. They'd be as well just battering it clear rather than taking their time then distributing to the opposition. They all remind me, in that regard, of Paul Quinn in his time at Tannadice.
Dundee United » Utd v Accies - 21/11/20 » 22/11/2020 8:13 pm |
Their goal, aye Smith may have cut out the cross, but we've maybe got used to seeing opposition defenders stop attempted crosses because our wide boys find it hard to put the ball into the box. A full back can't stop every cross.
I reckon that cross should have been dealt with by our three central defenders, and it was galling to watch one of them run away from the scorer giving him an easier chance to net.
Dundee United » Nicky Clark » 22/11/2020 9:38 am |
TangerineDream wrote:
Very underrated player Nicky Clark. Scored many important goals for us, like yesterday.
Remember when he was out injured for a bit, grief did we miss his contribution or what.
Very good signing for us.
Aye, well done Czaba
An especially good second goal from Nicky Clark yesterday, and he has got a few which has secured points this season. Quite a few times I've thought Clark's contributions would mean his opportunities would be limited, but he's been one of the positives of 2020 for me, badly missed following his injury last season too.
Dundee United » Accies Predictions » 21/11/2020 9:22 pm |
Tek wrote:
Tek wrote:
Hard fought 2-1 Utd win (Clark and Butcher)
Nearly.
Well done. I misread the runes.
Dundee United » Utd v Accies - 21/11/20 » 21/11/2020 5:05 pm |
SuperMario wrote:
Mellon out and take mcnulty with him
Bit harsh SuperMario.
McNulty did well at both goals, but generally that was a hard, hard watch. Think a decent side may have murdered us today, and couldn't understand starting the three central defenders which cost us in the middle of the park. None of the three can pass the ball well under pressure (and often under no pressure) and surely against poorer sides we should have a more positive midfielder on the pitch.
Happy with three points though.
Dundee United » Accies Predictions » 20/11/2020 11:40 pm |
Morphman wrote:
This post should be framed and put in the V&A somewhere. A work of art.
Thank you. I'd suggest the toilet.
Dundee United » Get it right up ya Robbie Nielson! » 20/11/2020 11:38 pm |
bowers wrote:
I hope this isnt away to end up the same with hearts as it is with rangers from united fans.
If you mean United fans having a laugh when misfortune hits these clubs bowers, I'd reckon generally the supporters of these two sides are more guilty in their derision towards Tannadice at every opportunity.
For me, I've said in the recent past I didn't think it was fair that Hearts were relegated, while Ibrox supporters thinking United had something to do with their old club's demise is their issue, not mine. I like to be factual.
Dundee United » Accies Predictions » 20/11/2020 7:45 pm |
Around about 41 years ago to the day, I was sitting in the West Port Dunfermline having just watched United qualify for the LC Final. I mind it well, a fellow United fan was awkwardly chain smoking through a packet of fags, and he explained his pals had told him nicotine stopped the toothache. He was a non-smoker, and I often wondered what happened to him.
United thrashed Accies 6-2 that day with Paul Sturrock starring, and it all points to only one thing tomorrow, if you do the sums: a 3-0 win for United, as BMT correctly says.
BMT wrote:
I'm going for a good dominant attacking display with 3-0 Utd. Pawlet, Butcher and Harkes.
Dundee United » Utd v Accies - 21/11/20 » 20/11/2020 8:38 am |
smedDUm wrote:
Since drawing with us at NDP at the end of September here's what they've done -
lost 3-2 at Hibs in the Lge
lost 3-1 at Annan in the Betfred
won 2-1 at home to Ayr in the Betfred
lost 3-5 at home to St J in the Lge
lost 2-4 at Aberdeen in the Lge
lost 0-8 at The Rangers in the Lge
lost 1-2 at Stranraer in the Betfred
awarded a 3-0 win at home to Albion Rovers cos of Covid shite
In a bit of a pickle.
Wounded animal or easybeats?
I've heard of shoogly pegs before but Brian Reid's peg must be hanging by an old piece of Blu Tack.
The results don't look great, especially the goals lost.
But you've made a bit of a pudding of the final sentence, it goes against the grain to say.
Brian Reid's Albion Rovers lost to Brian Rice's Hamilton by covid default last week.
Rice has go enough on his plate without you replacing him prematurely. He's not desserted the Accies yet, smedDUm
Dundee United » Utd v Accies - 21/11/20 » 19/11/2020 10:44 pm |
lifesanocean wrote:
Tek wrote:
What team would you chaps like to see? Mine would be (injury permitting).
......................Siegrest......................
Smith....Edwards...Reynolds..Robson
McMullan...Butcher...Harkes...Sporle
..............Shankland..Clark........
Subs - Mehmet, McNulty, Power, Fuchs
Connolly, Bolton, Pawlett, Appere, NeilsonI'd go for that team but with Fuchs in for Harkes and McNulty in for Clark.
Agree with lifesanocean's team, I reckon both McNulty and Fuchs will be regular starters for the foreseeable future.
Lesser Teams » Israel v Scotland » 18/11/2020 9:57 pm |
Tek wrote:
Disappointing result.
18 shots on the night and 12 corners. We should be doing better with those stats. Shankland must be gutted to not be seeing any action considering our failure to convert chances.
Need to take tonight on the chin though, learn from it and look forward to a hopefully favourable World Cup draw next month.
Frustrated for Shankland, hopefully he's not too disheartened himself.
With hindsight, Clark should perhaps have put a stronger side out on Sunday.
On the one hand I'm not as optimistic about our match v England etc next summer, then I look at the side we beat only six days ago absolutely hammering Russia tonight: a puzzle.
I think, if we're honest, we'd not have been in the position to win the group if we hadn't played a shadow Czech side in Olomouc.
Lesser Teams » Israel v Scotland » 18/11/2020 7:34 pm |
Unsure if I'd like to see Lawrence Shankland getting a run later in the match if we can't get a goal: it'd be great if he was a matchwinner, but there's always the risk of unlucky injury.
Lesser Teams » Serbia v Scotland - Euro 2020 Play-Off Final » 13/11/2020 8:49 am |
Great team performance, well deserved.
I went in the huff when Serbia equalised and never watched the first half of extra time: that corner they scored from, it shouldn't have been given should it? Not really seen it mentioned anywhere.
If we'd won 1-0 in normal time it should have been regarded as one of a Scotland side's most complete away performances of all time, imo. But the end result is all that matters.
Dundee United » St Johnstone v Utd - Tuesday 10th November » 13/11/2020 8:44 am |
Shakey Isles Arab wrote:
Anybody can miss a penalty.
Everybody should make the goalie work as did May, Tanser
We have a lot of great football players among our support.
Dundee United » Honest opinions on the season so far? » 12/11/2020 4:13 pm |
A lot of well balanced views up there from Morphman, LarsErikKjell, Lilley01, Beharder, TangerineDream and BMT. Heartening to know supporters are showing patience in these difficult times. Plenty of other shit to complain about away from United's performances.
Dundee United » St Johnstone v Utd - Tuesday 10th November » 12/11/2020 4:09 pm |
Tek wrote:
Who would i rather took a pen than Connolly?
Louis Appere, Liam Smith, Luke Bolton or Calum Butcher.
Fair enough. I've never seen any of these boys take a penalty.
Nonetheless, St Johnstone's best striker Stevie May missed his, as did their regular penalty taker Scott Tanser.
Connolly's miss remined me of Roberto Baggio's which decided the '94 World Cup Final. That was, of course, a much more important match
Anybody can miss a penalty.
Dundee United » St Johnstone v Utd - Tuesday 10th November » 11/11/2020 1:27 pm |
St Johnstone missed quite a few chances to win the game, Hendry was especially poor. If May and Conway had started, I think we would have been beaten. Edwards was the only one of the back three I would give pass marks to, and even then he was slow.
Two things about Connolly though: the penalty that according to Craigan was a stick-on looked, to me, to be doubtful. Connolly got first to the ball and it jammed under his foot, and I think the Saints player knew that too, as few, maybe even none of the opposition claimed for it. As an aside, Craigan commentating was a blethering cunt, he had Deniz measuring 6'8" among his many howlers. The other Connolly point, although his penalty was awful, I wonder who else fans would have chosen to take one, looking at our finishing line up?
McNulty looks faster than I remember him being, McMullan took his chance but as others have probably noted, he, similar to almost every other player in tangerine, wasn't able to consistently pick out a team mate. He gets criticised for his final ball: I don't know who in our present starting line ups can find team mates. Some are worse than others.
Fuchs should be ok with a few games under his belt. Sporle is a different option in attack, but he struggled defensively at times against Shaun Rooney, who is no great shakes. Smith is wasted in a back 3/5. I'd like us to bin 3/5 at the back, but we don't seem to have two complimentary central defenders, so Mickey is maybe compensating by playing the three.
If we qualify, we're likely to get a heavy thrashing from one of the Glasgow twins. We don't deserve to anyway, getting beaten at home by Peterhead, registering one shot on target in that game, which I think happened in injury time.
Dundee United » St Johnstone v Utd - Tuesday 10th November » 10/11/2020 4:11 pm |
Don't ever want to lose games, so I'm not one of those fans who claims not to care about the fixture tonight, but I can't get too excited about it either, given the competition won't be bringing in more than a pittance in income no matter how far we progress. Maybe it's costing the club?
In any case, I feel that the weighting and arrangements for the competition are against most clubs. Yet I'm still intrigued to see what sort of side MM puts out and how the team performs. Whatever happens, I hope for no injuries.
3-0 United, of course. McNulty, Appere and Edwards.