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St.Mirren doing something that's probably on most of our Bucket Lists.
Seeing our team beat Celtic at Hampden.
Dundee United » Prediction League - Match Day 39 » Yesterday 11:40 pm |
3-0 party time.!
Dundee United » Prediction League - Match Day 39 » Yesterday 9:15 pm |
4 v 0 Us
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2-1 united
Dundee United » Summer transfer window 2024 » Yesterday 8:28 pm |
Tek wrote:
I'd take a look at getting Andy Irving on loan from West Ham. 24 year old Scottish Centre Mid.
Currently back on loan to Austria Klagenfurt in the Austrian Bundesliga. Whom, West Ham signed him from for 1.5M in the final day of the 2023 Summer Window. He has 6 goals and 9 assists this season and the team are in the hunt for a Euro place.
Played 18 games for Hearts in the Premiership when he was a kid (the Covid season), a lot of experience and football played for a 24 year old.
Versatile too. Can play DCM, attacking mid, left wing, right wing, has even played up front.
Scored a hat-trick tonight against league leaders, Red Bull Salzburg. His team were 2-0 down and won 4-3.
His loan ends on June 30th.
Go and get him Utd.
Dundee United » Prediction League - Match Day 39 » Yesterday 8:06 pm |
6-0 united 🥳🥳🥳🏆🥇🏆
Dundee United » Prediction League - Match Day 39 » Yesterday 6:47 pm |
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Dundee United » Out of Contract players - Who would you keep? » Yesterday 5:54 pm |
Shedtastic wrote:
New Head of Recruitment.
Dundee United draft in new transfer chief as Michael Cairney joins from Southampton - Daily Record
Hope he hasn't booked any holidays over the next three months, busy period ahead.
Some good news the Jim will now get some help in this department.
Goalkeeper is the number 1 priority for me.
Dundee United » Prediction League - Match Day 39 » Yesterday 5:42 pm |
4-0 Utd
Dundee United » Out of Contract players - Who would you keep? » Yesterday 5:39 pm |
Dundee United » Out of Contract players - Who would you keep? » Yesterday 5:25 pm |
Canadian Arab wrote:
Finn Seemann wrote:
Some of that is fair enough. The issue for me with Goodwin is that the football was painful and he didn't seem to have any plan beyond the plan in games that weren't going his way. In the end he stumbled across a solution due to injuries. Granted, beyond the League Cup debacle we actually started the season well. The plan worked. By the time we got to the third round of games and had a few injuries the plan had been sussed by any decent opposition manager (even McPake!) and we suffered. That coupled with the capitulation at the end of last season has me doubting whether Goodwin has the ability to get the players playing the 2 or 3 different systems that he is going to need to survive in the Prem (and may need to adopt more than one system within the 90 minutes of a game to survive.
That said, I think the revisionist view (which is forget about the abject failings and concentrate on the fact we won the league) will prevail due to the ownership situation and the lack of funds which will mean Jim starts the season as boss. It is relevant to out of contract players as there is no point in thinking about them if the manager's position is in question (which it clearly should be).I'm not a revisionist Finn. You won't find a post from me on this board or anywhere else that says I think we should get rid of Goodwin, and now I've changed my mind because we got promoted. I only had one moment of doubt about 6 weeks ago after the Dunfermline game and I said that I did not think this squad had the dig to go up. We've won every game since. I have always felt that Goodwin has done enough positive things since he came in to outweigh the negatives, the most important of which was to tell Ogren that he wanted complete control over the playing side and to ditch all the charlatans who were bleeding us dry. He got rid of Mulgrew, took a different approach with Watt (which seems to be paying off), immediately addressed
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Dundee United » Out of Contract players - Who would you keep? » Yesterday 4:36 pm |
Finn Seemann wrote:
Some of that is fair enough. The issue for me with Goodwin is that the football was painful and he didn't seem to have any plan beyond the plan in games that weren't going his way. In the end he stumbled across a solution due to injuries. Granted, beyond the League Cup debacle we actually started the season well. The plan worked. By the time we got to the third round of games and had a few injuries the plan had been sussed by any decent opposition manager (even McPake!) and we suffered. That coupled with the capitulation at the end of last season has me doubting whether Goodwin has the ability to get the players playing the 2 or 3 different systems that he is going to need to survive in the Prem (and may need to adopt more than one system within the 90 minutes of a game to survive.
That said, I think the revisionist view (which is forget about the abject failings and concentrate on the fact we won the league) will prevail due to the ownership situation and the lack of funds which will mean Jim starts the season as boss. It is relevant to out of contract players as there is no point in thinking about them if the manager's position is in question (which it clearly should be).
I'm not a revisionist Finn. You won't find a post from me on this board or anywhere else that says I think we should get rid of Goodwin, and now I've changed my mind because we got promoted. I only had one moment of doubt about 6 weeks ago after the Dunfermline game and I said that I did not think this squad had the dig to go up. We've won every game since. I have always felt that Goodwin has done enough positive things since he came in to outweigh the negatives, the most important of which was to tell Ogren that he wanted complete control over the playing side and to ditch all the charlatans who were bleeding us dry. He got rid of Mulgrew, took a different approach with Watt (which seems to be paying off), immediately addressed the weak spine of our
…Dundee United » Out of Contract players - Who would you keep? » Yesterday 4:23 pm |
dufc2019 wrote:
Finn Seemann wrote:
Morphman wrote:
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Going to attempt to answer both of these in one go.
I don't think there are many revisionists out there, at least not on this forum, although I don't use any form of social media for a few years now. There's not a comment in here from anyone who is "in support" of Goodwin that has said that the current squad will manage in the premiership, or that the football played was particularly enthralling. The club, to it's credit, signed the bulk of the current squad on fairly short term deals this season, meaning we have should have a bit of a budget to improve and hopefully consolidate our position in the prem.
The Scottish cup game vs Queens really was one of those games, we absolutey battered them for 120 minutes and got beat. However, the league cup at the start of the term was an absolute embarassment to be knocked out of, no doubt.
You'll not convince me that moving on from Goodwin would be a smart move. Aberdeen's crazy affair with Warnock sealed that for me. They went for a very proven manager from a different country and he could barely get a tune out of an Aberdeen team in the premiership that would likely beat our current squad fairly comfotably.
We have not limped over the line at all, this idea that we should have a league wrapped up in early March is absolute drivel. It's Old Firm levels of entitlement to believe that we should have crushed this league, it simply does not work like that.
"On the whole this season has been a slog. With some embarrassing losses. We will not be playing Arbroath/Queens Park next season and sadly he will be found out"
Perhaps he will get found out, however, every loss in the championship is going to be seen as an embarassing loss if you believe that we are entitled to go out and crush championship teams who are inevitably going to raise their game when playing the biggest club in the league, and the title favourites.
"[i][b]If we can't blow teams away with th
Dundee United » Out of Contract players - Who would you keep? » Yesterday 3:41 pm |
Finn Seemann wrote:
Morphman wrote:
Conway11 wrote:
100% agree
Regarding the points on the previous page - we have limped over. It has taken until the second last game of the season to be officially winners. The football style is horrible which sets the standard for next season. If we can't blow teams away with the squad we have in this tinpot league - imagine what we will be like on an even keel (maybe) next season? Keeping him is just delaying the inevitiable, he will be sacked in the first 6 months of next season if he stays - he has scottish capped players in this squad and they have looked like dug meat in some games this season. Just a few weeks ago he was schooled by McPake FFS. Now we are close to the end of the season and we look like winners it has clouded boys judgement a bit. On the whole this season has been a slog. With some embarrassing losses. We will not be playing Arbroath/Queens Park next season and sadly he will be found out. Get rid now and lets start a fresh.Going to attempt to answer both of these in one go.
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I don't think there are many revisionists out there, at least not on this forum, although I don't use any form of social media for a few years now. There's not a comment in here from anyone who is "in support" of Goodwin that has said that the current squad will manage in the premiership, or that the football played was particularly enthralling. The club, to it's credit, signed the bulk of the current squad on fairly short term deals this season, meaning we have should have a bit of a budget to improve and hopefully consolidate our position in the prem.
The Scottish cup game vs Queens really was one of those games, we absolutey battered them for 120 minutes and got beat. However, the league cup at the start of the term was an absolute embarassment to be knocked out of, no doubt.
You'll not convince me that moving on from Goodwin would be a smart move. Aberdeen's crazy affair with Warnock sealed that for me. They went for a ve
Dundee United » Out of Contract players - Who would you keep? » Yesterday 2:58 pm |
Morphman wrote:
Conway11 wrote:
Finn Seemann wrote:
We've been the least pish in a pish league. We've lost cup ties to teams 1 and 2 leagues below us. Our football has at times been turgid. The squad we've currently got is miles off staying up next season. Our owner is a basket case and our manager has managed to get a squad of very average players (built with easily the largest budget in the league) to the top of the league (potentially only by goal difference).
However the revisionists are feeling all warm and fuzzy because we are back in the big time. There is a lot of work to do in the close season to build a squad for the next level. Is Goodwin the man to do that? That might not matter if Ogren is still in charge, but in any case I think the answer is no. However, if it is still Ogren then we'd be as well sticking with him as I would have absolutely no trust in Ogren finding anyone in his price range that would be any better (and probably worse).
Still a great time to be an Arab...100% agree
Regarding the points on the previous page - we have limped over. It has taken until the second last game of the season to be officially winners. The football style is horrible which sets the standard for next season. If we can't blow teams away with the squad we have in this tinpot league - imagine what we will be like on an even keel (maybe) next season? Keeping him is just delaying the inevitiable, he will be sacked in the first 6 months of next season if he stays - he has scottish capped players in this squad and they have looked like dug meat in some games this season. Just a few weeks ago he was schooled by McPake FFS. Now we are close to the end of the season and we look like winners it has clouded boys judgement a bit. On the whole this season has been a slog. With some embarrassing losses. We will not be playing Arbroath/Queens Park next season and sadly he will be found out. Get rid now and lets start a fresh.Going to attempt
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Dundee United » Out of Contract players - Who would you keep? » Yesterday 12:50 pm |
Not unreasonable. We bring in a new manager its a standing start again. We need to find a manager who wants to come here then there's player recruitment which could/should be substantial this year.
People can suggest managers all they want but there's no guarantee the interest would be reciprocated.
Goodwin will also have an idea of who he might be interested in keeping on next season and I suspect he already has some targets (although is a fair time till the end of the window). I'm just not a fan of chopping and changing managers frequently.
Some fans will never be happy, I suspect whoever's manager next season will be getting 'XXXXX OOT!' by the end of October from some quarters.
Discussion seems to be movoing away from 'Out of Contract players'
Dundee United » Out of Contract players - Who would you keep? » Yesterday 12:48 pm |
we have done what's been expected of us way more comfortably than Dundee and Kilmarnock did it.
Dundee United » Out of Contract players - Who would you keep? » Yesterday 12:32 pm |
Conway11 wrote:
Finn Seemann wrote:
We've been the least pish in a pish league. We've lost cup ties to teams 1 and 2 leagues below us. Our football has at times been turgid. The squad we've currently got is miles off staying up next season. Our owner is a basket case and our manager has managed to get a squad of very average players (built with easily the largest budget in the league) to the top of the league (potentially only by goal difference).
However the revisionists are feeling all warm and fuzzy because we are back in the big time. There is a lot of work to do in the close season to build a squad for the next level. Is Goodwin the man to do that? That might not matter if Ogren is still in charge, but in any case I think the answer is no. However, if it is still Ogren then we'd be as well sticking with him as I would have absolutely no trust in Ogren finding anyone in his price range that would be any better (and probably worse).
Still a great time to be an Arab...100% agree
Regarding the points on the previous page - we have limped over. It has taken until the second last game of the season to be officially winners. The football style is horrible which sets the standard for next season. If we can't blow teams away with the squad we have in this tinpot league - imagine what we will be like on an even keel (maybe) next season? Keeping him is just delaying the inevitiable, he will be sacked in the first 6 months of next season if he stays - he has scottish capped players in this squad and they have looked like dug meat in some games this season. Just a few weeks ago he was schooled by McPake FFS. Now we are close to the end of the season and we look like winners it has clouded boys judgement a bit. On the whole this season has been a slog. With some embarrassing losses. We will not be playing Arbroath/Queens Park next season and sadly he will be found out. Get rid now and lets start a fresh.
Going to attempt to answer both o
…Dundee United » Prediction League - Match Day 39 » Yesterday 11:53 am |
0-1 Utd
Dundee United » Prediction League - Match Day 39 » Yesterday 11:38 am |
2-1 united
Dundee United » Prediction League - Match Day 39 » Yesterday 11:24 am |
3-0 United
Dundee United » Prediction League - Match Day 39 » Yesterday 11:13 am |
1-1
Dundee United » Prediction League - Match Day 39 » Yesterday 10:58 am |
1-0 to United. We'll put out some fringe players, they'll be playing carefully with an eye on the play offs.
Dundee United » Airdrie Vs Utd - Friday 26th April (7.45pm) » Yesterday 10:37 am |
Looks like around 400 sears left in that away stand. Looks like it holds about 3,000
Dundee United » Out of Contract players - Who would you keep? » Yesterday 10:32 am |
Finn Seemann wrote:
We've been the least pish in a pish league. We've lost cup ties to teams 1 and 2 leagues below us. Our football has at times been turgid. The squad we've currently got is miles off staying up next season. Our owner is a basket case and our manager has managed to get a squad of very average players (built with easily the largest budget in the league) to the top of the league (potentially only by goal difference).
However the revisionists are feeling all warm and fuzzy because we are back in the big time. There is a lot of work to do in the close season to build a squad for the next level. Is Goodwin the man to do that? That might not matter if Ogren is still in charge, but in any case I think the answer is no. However, if it is still Ogren then we'd be as well sticking with him as I would have absolutely no trust in Ogren finding anyone in his price range that would be any better (and probably worse).
Still a great time to be an Arab...
100% agree
Regarding the points on the previous page - we have limped over. It has taken until the second last game of the season to be officially winners. The football style is horrible which sets the standard for next season. If we can't blow teams away with the squad we have in this tinpot league - imagine what we will be like on an even keel (maybe) next season? Keeping him is just delaying the inevitiable, he will be sacked in the first 6 months of next season if he stays - he has scottish capped players in this squad and they have looked like dug meat in some games this season. Just a few weeks ago he was schooled by McPake FFS. Now we are close to the end of the season and we look like winners it has clouded boys judgement a bit. On the whole this season has been a slog. With some embarrassing losses. We will not be playing Arbroath/Queens Park next season and sadly he will be found out. Get rid now and lets start a fresh.
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