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Dundee United » Rangers vs DUFC - Wednesday 14th May » Yesterday 11:52 am

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kdyteejay wrote:

Ferry is sitting one yellow away from suspension. Correct? If he gets a yellow on Wednesday is it automatic for the next game or seven days later meaning he’ll be available for the Aberdeen game? 

 
I think the only way he would miss Aberdeen on Saturday if he gets a straight red.

Booking would mean he would miss the first two games of next season,  I think.

Dundee United » Rangers vs DUFC - Wednesday 14th May » Yesterday 11:50 am

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My thoughts are that we are all in agreement now or we should be that we can't play against anyone and have a go. We simply don't have the guys to do it.

Last time we played this lot we got our arse handed back to us on a plate after a promising start.

Back to the tried and tested please, 4-5-1 and try and frustrate the opposition. 

Need to try and get some legs into the team, Fotheringham should come in for that as he has previously against Rangers.

Middleton and Trapa to come on as Subs with 20 to go if are still in the match.

You can copy and paste the above for the Aberdeen game.

Dundee United » Last 10 days of Winter Window - What do we still need? » 10/5/2025 11:29 pm

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motherwellarab wrote:

CCX2 2010 wrote:

CCX2 2010 wrote:

We are no worse than any other club, not much has really happened in terms of real improvements in anyone's starting 11 in our league.

Looking down south it's much the same, unless you are shelling out over the odds then nobody is letting any players go.

Some posters on this forum at times have short memories and unrealistic expectations.

This season for a team just promoted has to date been a success and if we slip to 10th it will still meet the objectives set by the club at the start of the season.

The same posters who slated players and management last season are now expecting them to be playing free flowing attractive football and finishing 3rd, it's mental.

Our starting eleven from last season that was assembled to fight our way back up are probably the spine of our best 11 this season. Why are people expecting us to turn over Kilmarnock and the likes the way we did Queens Park.

We have added some depth in some key areas and not in others, I would have liked some cover for Ferry.

Overall 6/10 for me but that's mainly down to what I've seen from Paton,  Fiorini and Campbell. Those guys will improve though, so when we look back in 12 weeks time it may turn out to be an overwhelming success.

12 weeks have passed, how wrong was I🤷‍♂️

 
You are always wrong

Even a broken clock is correct twice a day.

Dundee United » Last 10 days of Winter Window - What do we still need? » 10/5/2025 9:53 pm

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CCX2 2010 wrote:

We are no worse than any other club, not much has really happened in terms of real improvements in anyone's starting 11 in our league.

Looking down south it's much the same, unless you are shelling out over the odds then nobody is letting any players go.

Some posters on this forum at times have short memories and unrealistic expectations.

This season for a team just promoted has to date been a success and if we slip to 10th it will still meet the objectives set by the club at the start of the season.

The same posters who slated players and management last season are now expecting them to be playing free flowing attractive football and finishing 3rd, it's mental.

Our starting eleven from last season that was assembled to fight our way back up are probably the spine of our best 11 this season. Why are people expecting us to turn over Kilmarnock and the likes the way we did Queens Park.

We have added some depth in some key areas and not in others, I would have liked some cover for Ferry.

Overall 6/10 for me but that's mainly down to what I've seen from Paton,  Fiorini and Campbell. Those guys will improve though, so when we look back in 12 weeks time it may turn out to be an overwhelming success.

12 weeks have passed, how wrong was I🤷‍♂️

Dundee United » United vs St.Mirren - Saturday 10th May » 10/5/2025 6:44 pm

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Not much to add really, most of it covered apart from some of the posts that single out certain players.

Every last one of them were off it again today, nae idea what the game plan was either.

Another Saturday for the third week running where we have been miles and miles off the required standard.

The only thing Goodwin got right was his aftermath assessment when he said the better team won.

Dundee United » Out of contract players in Summer - Who would you keep? » 09/5/2025 8:22 pm

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Luton have extended Waltons contract by a further year.

For me this is the last 3 games for United.  I think he will get a run or at least a chance in the old English 3rd Division.

Good luck to him, he has been a steady pair of hands in the goal and brought a bit a calm after the blunder from down under.

Dundee United » United vs St.Mirren - Saturday 10th May » 09/5/2025 1:00 pm

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Finn Seemann wrote:

redford_must_score wrote:

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That's unfair imo, he built a squad to get out of the championship, which he done at the 1st attempt.

Most of the squad he assembled to fight for three points at Greenock on a wet Tuesday night are still here.

He shipped out 15 players this season overhauling the playing squad to keep us up, which he has done with ease.

The tines this season, where he has asked some of the guys to play attacking football, we have been found well short of the required level.

There have been multiple times this season he has been far too attacking and it cost us points-

Rangers at home, Dundee at home, Hearts and Hibs at home, Aberdeen away second time (went for 3 when he we could easily had 1).

There's lots more to it but it's lazy to just brandish him defensive without looking at all of the circumstances he has inherited.

Next season will be the first time imo we will have a chance to evaluate him in terms of style of play, but again, I just want to see us win.

Just need to look up the road for all the evidence you need.

 
Not wishing to get between the handbags 😁 but always up for a debate.
I think you're both correct.
I think Goodwin knew that survival would be built on a strong defensive set up and that's how he set us up in the early games.
I think he probably couldn't believe his luck when it actually delivered way beyond what maybe even he expected.
I think there have been times in that first 2/3 of the season when we deservedly looked a threat in the final third but in all honesty we never looked like a consistent fluid creative side even when getting the 3 points.
I'm guessing but I'm thinking Goodwin then decides to experiment with attack and it's rebounded spectacularly on us every time he's tried it. We just lack the quality in midfield and up front to play 433 and after the derby disaster he should have realised it was a non starter. But no, he goes 433 against Celtic! Muppetry in acti

Dundee United » United vs St.Mirren - Saturday 10th May » 08/5/2025 10:05 pm

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Tek wrote:

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A cautious one.

I meant we would see what he was made of in relation to the injury crisis in defence, because it might force him to employ a tactic that doesn't come naturally to him i.e. attack.
 

 
That's unfair imo, he built a squad to get out of the championship, which he done at the 1st attempt.

Most of the squad he assembled to fight for three points at Greenock on a wet Tuesday night are still here.

He shipped out 15 players this season overhauling the playing squad to keep us up, which he has done with ease.

The tines this season, where he has asked some of the guys to play attacking football, we have been found well short of the required level.

There have been multiple times this season he has been far too attacking and it cost us points-

Rangers at home, Dundee at home, Hearts and Hibs at home, Aberdeen away second time (went for 3 when he we could easily had 1).

There's lots more to it but it's lazy to just brandish him defensive without looking at all of the circumstances he has inherited.

Next season will be the first time imo we will have a chance to evaluate him in terms of style of play, but again, I just want to see us win.

Just need to look up the road for all the evidence you need.

Most of what you wrote above is true, but that doesn't take away that he is an inherently cautious and defensively minded Manager, that isn't so much a criticism as a statement of fact. 

And that also doesn't mean that his team won't at times win, we have done so plenty of times this season alone.

But that also doesn't take away from the fact that in games of football where we need to 'have a go' and win the match on the day, we invariably struggle.

His record in the Cups is evidence to that.
 

 
Of course ,just like I pointed out above, we struggle because we don't yet have the players.

He is pissing with the cock he's got.

We will find out next season if he can improve on the points you

Dundee United » United vs St.Mirren - Saturday 10th May » 08/5/2025 6:28 pm

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Tek wrote:

CCX2 2010 wrote:

It was not in response to your post however what type of manager is Goodwin?

A cautious one.

I meant we would see what he was made of in relation to the injury crisis in defence, because it might force him to employ a tactic that doesn't come naturally to him i.e. attack.
 

 
That's unfair imo, he built a squad to get out of the championship,  which he done at the 1st attempt.

Most of the squad he assembled to fight for three points at Greenock on a wet Tuesday night are still here.

He shipped out 15 players this season overhauling the playing squad to keep us up, which he has done with ease.

The tines this season, where he has asked some of the guys to play attacking football, we have been found well short of the required level.

There have been multiple times this season he has been far too attacking and it cost us points-

Rangers at home, Dundee at home, Hearts and Hibs at home, Aberdeen away second time (went for 3 when he we could easily had 1).

There's lots more to it but it's lazy to just brandish him defensive without looking at all of the circumstances he has inherited.

Next season will be the first time imo we will have a chance to evaluate him in terms of style of play, but again, I just want to see us win.

Just need to look up the road for all the evidence you need.

Dundee United » United vs St.Mirren - Saturday 10th May » 08/5/2025 5:02 pm

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Goodwin said in today's press conference that the only absentee on Saturday will be big Ross, he has been known to tell a few porkies in them meetings all the same.

That being the case- 3,5,2 with Sevelj back in the middle please.

Dundee United » Out of contract players in Summer - Who would you keep? » 08/5/2025 8:36 am

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Middleton would have been one of three that I would have offered another contract to.

Would have preferred that Maswanise fella from Motherwell though.

Dundee United » United vs St.Mirren - Saturday 10th May » 08/5/2025 6:43 am

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Tek wrote:

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"We’re close to being completely fucked".
 
We are however just look at some of the posts above will tell you that some of our fans blind to the circumstances we are in.

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Huh? What posts above?

Everyone is well aware we are up against it.
 

 
You ain't half getting para in yer auld age, I bet you have a peephole. 😀

It was more to do with some of the line ups and.just going for it. Almost everytime we go for it, we get our arse handed back to is on a plate.

It was not in response to your post however what type of manager is Goodwin?

Dundee United » United vs St.Mirren - Saturday 10th May » 07/5/2025 9:54 pm

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Morphman wrote:

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Shakey Isles Arab wrote:

Walton

  Strain Sevelj VDS Ferry

Stuffed if I know ?      Docherty Sibbald

Middleton Dalby Moult Trapanovski

Down the wings
Cannae leave a full bench ?

 
That says it all mate, that's what we are up against this weekend

One thing I think I've had enough of though is VDS, I know he a bit of a cult hero with some of the young guys but I don't want to see him again.

He will for many a year be a regular in with the likes of Rabbitch and  Birighitti in our worst ever 11.

 
Nah mate, VDS at the back makes sense. If it goes well, Jim's a genius. If it goes shite, boo GTF Goodwin. Everyone's a winner.

 

I hear ya, if he can get something out of that plank of wood then he would indeed be a genius.

Dundee United » United vs St.Mirren - Saturday 10th May » 07/5/2025 9:33 pm

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Shakey Isles Arab wrote:

Walton

  Strain Sevelj VDS Ferry

Stuffed if I know ?      Docherty Sibbald

Middleton Dalby Moult Trapanovski

Down the wings
Cannae leave a full bench ?

 
That says it all mate, that's what we are up against this weekend

One thing I think I've had enough of though is VDS, I know he a bit of a cult hero with some of the young guys but I don't want to see him again.

He will for many a year be a regular in with the likes of Rabbitch and  Birighitti in our worst ever 11.

Dundee United » United vs St.Mirren - Saturday 10th May » 07/5/2025 9:24 pm

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RogerTheAlien wrote:

lifesanocean wrote:

Courier saying Adeboyega (groin), Gallagher and Cleall-Harding (hamstring) all doubtful and Graham (hamstring) out for the season.

 
We’re close to being completely fucked.

 
We are however just look at some of the posts above and a.wee quick squint on social media will tell you that some of our fans blind to the circumstances we are in.

We have been successful against St Mirren this season through matching them up, almost man for man. We did get a bit of joy in January when Goodwin made an early sub in the first half and brought on some pace.

Either way it's going to be extremely difficult again this Saturday with what we have to select from.

Dundee United » United vs St.Mirren - Saturday 10th May » 07/5/2025 8:48 am

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lifesanocean wrote:

Don't suppose Louis Moult could do a turn at centre half like what Jon Daly did back in the day?

 
Might be forced into something creative as we are out of option I think with Mani and Graham out for the season ( I'm guessing that Mani is done).

We will certainly need height to match up at set pieces against O Hara and Mandron.

I hope that some United fans recognise the limitations available to the manager and don't go overboard if we don't get a result. I won't hold my breath all the same.

Dundee United » United vs St.Mirren - Saturday 10th May » 07/5/2025 7:07 am

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Walton

Strain , Gallagher, Sevelj, Ferry

Middleton, Sibbald, Docherty, Trapa

Moult, Dalby

I think Gallagher will play through it, my word  really need him.

Will Ferry needs to avoid a yellow card, one caution and he's out for the season.  Step forward Steven McLean, I bet it will be for absolutely nothing.

Dundee United » Out of contract players in Summer - Who would you keep? » 06/5/2025 9:36 am

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Tek wrote:

Gonna throw this one out there.

Steven Fletcher.

Out of contract at Wrexham on June 30th. They will now spend millions, he will be released.

Yes, he's 38 but he seems still very fit. Just scored 8 goals in English League One, 1 assist. Started only a few games, but made 40 appearances all in. So, obviously been fit all season.

Wouldn't be offering him the wage he was on previously, obviously, but i think he'd still do a job, either from the bench or starting.

We are losing a whole load of experienced players. Be good to have someone like him in the dressing room. Experienced, fit, strong, athletic, a presence, a bit of aura, a winner.

And before someone says something like 'he got us relegated'. He was very good in that season, particularly playing in such a poor side. Pretty much the only player who was. One of the best Striker's we've had in recent years.

 
Not for me mate although not the worst idea, I would just like to see us going for guys on the right side of 30.

Don't think anyone would point the finger of blame at him for the relegation season, he was one of the few that actually gave a fuck from where I was sat.

The way that Dalby is finishing the season he might actually be an option for us.

Dundee United » Utd Loan Watch » 05/5/2025 8:14 pm

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Any word on Rory McLeod?

Young lad seems to have disappeared from Southampton under 21s.

Dundee United » Hibs vs United - Saturday 3rd May » 04/5/2025 12:09 pm

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Tek wrote:

I think today it was more evident than ever that the season has caught up with our small squad.

Some look like they are playing through injury, and others look like they've ran their race and have nothing more to offer the club. Despite trying too.

Mark Ogren needs to open up the purse strings and give whoever is Manager next season a far more competitive budget that will give us a better chance to compete fairly with Aberdeen, Hearts and Hibs. We haven't even played many Cup games this season. And have had many free weekends, imagine we had less of them and more games. I can't imagine what state the squad would look like, availability wise and fatigue wise. Throw some European games into the mix and we simply must have a squad with far more depth next season, and also with more quality at our disposal.

This squad has done great to win us the Championship and get us Top 6 (minimum) and our appreciation should be shown to most of these players, but it's also time for the stark reality that if we are to go on to the next level we need to gut the squad again, and in the Summer we need to try and really build a squad for the future, one with more longevity, players that might be our mainstays over the next 2/3 years, so we aren't needing yet another massive rebuild in the Summer of 2026.

It's time for our Championship players to move on -

Gallagher, Moult, Watt, Fotheringham, Thomson, Middleton and yes even Ross Docherty, sadly.

We need to move on the signings this season that clearly haven't worked -

Babunski, VDS, Odada, Meshack, Campbell, Fiorini, Paton

And there are several youngsters out of contract. Most of these will also be moved on i'd imagine, bar maybe Charlie Dewar, Scott Constable and maybe Ruairidh Adams.

It will be a big rebuild, and i'm personally quite happy we have a new Head of Recruitment. I think there have been too many failures this season. We need a better average than 50% being failures. This has been a squad

Dundee United » Hibs vs United - Saturday 3rd May » 03/5/2025 7:03 pm

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GFL wrote:

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GFL wrote:

Honestly, get Gallagher off the first 11. Give SCL a start. If Adeboyega is on holiday mode what difference does it make if we recall and start Dewar?

Get boys who are here past the end of season playing.
Goodwin is 7 games and 7 straight losses post split games for United.

We’re getting very fucking close to chucking Europe next season and playing Inverness away on a Tuesday in the league cup.

 
What, would you just play some young laddie at 17 year old at the back himself?

We have no options at the back, none. These boys are out on their feet, all of them.

We are chucking nothing away, these boys have given their all, nobody can accuse them of past accusations that were levelled at Mulgrew/Edwards.

The better team won last week and today, that's the end of it really, shite but that the truth.

Massive game next week, one we need to be up for but really really really really could be doing with a fit Ross Graham to allow Sevelj to go back into midfield.

 
Was my assessment for next week. Boys who are here next season get them played if the ones here who looked like they aren’t arsed for us can’t be arsed.

They weren’t good today imo, all 3 were avoidable. First brain fart, second shite, second horrid defending (aka see second).

 
Aye but none of the goals we lost were due to guys not giving a fuck. Lack of concentration and guys playing out of position yes.

Ps. We don't even have eleven guys that will defo be here next season.

Richards,

Strain,Sevelj,.Graham (doibtful), Ferry.

Sibbald, Trapa

Nae strikers.

That's it I think.

Got to get behind these guys, it's sore I get it however they are on empty.

Dundee United » Hibs vs United - Saturday 3rd May » 03/5/2025 6:41 pm

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redford_must_score wrote:

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Just seen the starting lineup and a bit of my usual optimism has returned.
Babunski really needs to take a game here.

 
He was miles off it.

That's me seen enough of Dave.

 
Agree. Too many times we've turned to him and he's not delivered.

We built our points total on a strong defence and today that disintegration was exposed badly. Some of the defensive positions of the back 3 in that first 25 minutes was alarming.  Manny wandering forward, Gallacher getting pulled all over the place.

We looked better after HT when Trapanovski and Middleton came on but that threat only lasted about 20 minutes and it always looked like if we got one they'd get 2 because of our poor defence. So often in that final third we couldn't pass it accurately or the bounce and deflections was beating us which is just evidence of a lack of quality.

To be fair, they have better players, deserved their victory and we have a massive rebuild on our hands.

 
Looked much better in the second half but I've no idea why we waited until HT to make changes, 30 mins in, it was obvious things needed to change.

Fuck, it's so difficult to try to be optimistic but at least that our two hardest fixtures out of the way imo.

Long week ahead, trying to keep the head, it feels like it but it not all lost.

Dundee United » Hibs vs United - Saturday 3rd May » 03/5/2025 6:28 pm

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GFL wrote:

Honestly, get Gallagher off the first 11. Give SCL a start. If Adeboyega is on holiday mode what difference does it make if we recall and start Dewar?

Get boys who are here past the end of season playing.
Goodwin is 7 games and 7 straight losses post split games for United.

We’re getting very fucking close to chucking Europe next season and playing Inverness away on a Tuesday in the league cup.

 
What, would you just play some young laddie at 17 year old at the back himself?

We have no options at the back, none. These boys are out on their feet, all of them.

We are chucking nothing away, these boys have given their all, nobody can accuse them of past accusations that were levelled at Mulgrew/Edwards.

The better team won last week and today, that's the end of it really, shite but that the truth.

Massive game next week, one we need to be up for but really really really really could be doing with a fit Ross Graham to allow Sevelj to go back into midfield.

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redford_must_score wrote:

Just seen the starting lineup and a bit of my usual optimism has returned.
Babunski really needs to take a game here.

 
He was miles off it.

That's me seen enough of Dave.

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