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Dundee United » The Shed vs Raith » Yesterday 10:02 pm

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Stillliving wrote:

Tek wrote:

Defo go 3 at the back.

Go 3-5-2

McLelland - Graham - McMann

Put Thomson and Middleton wing back roles and give them the remit to get forward at every opportunity.

I am not as despondent as some others.

Gallagher and Holt have been poor for weeks.

 
Good to hear a bit of positivity.

 
As much as I've been impressed by young Thompson since he came onto the scene, I do have doubt if both he and Middleton have the discipline and the engine to that role..

Gallagher looked to be fine last week but he did go down injured in the first half.  Unless it's muscle/ligaments he should be playing

Dundee United » The Shed vs Raith » Yesterday 9:11 pm

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JerryDungle wrote:

McMann is fit and starting.

 
That's better JD, now any chance of getting big Gallagher fit for Saturday 😃

Dundee United » The Shed vs Raith » 27/3/2024 11:13 pm

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Shakey Isles Arab wrote:

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Patience has been in short supply from some of our fans this season which has been understandable at times. This game on Saturday, you bet your last pound that Ian Murray will be saying 'keep it tight, nick the first goal and the players will drown under the pressure'.

I would imagine that our backline from left to right will be Middleton, Graham, Gallagher and young Miller T. They will be playing in front of a goalkeeper who's form has dipped a little over the past few months.

The above need us on Saturday to be patient and not get too excited when they make mistakes (they 100% will).

Midfield in my opinion we have the upper hand and up front both Watt and Moult MUST take the chances that come our way.

Our guys are under more pressure than theirs, our expectations are greater than theirs. They haven't coped too well of recent,granted but nor have Raith.

Winning a title is never easy but three points on Saturday would put a big dent in the hopes of the fifers.

Good, balanced post.
I'd have McMann if fit.
 

So would I Shakey, hopefully he makes it.

Dundee United » The Shed vs Raith » 27/3/2024 9:57 pm

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David_Blunkett wrote:

Was speaking to a person involved with another club yesterday, he's of the opinion, that with the players we've signed and the money invested, we should be absolutely scooshing the league.

And that's pretty much the opinion of every other team as well apparently.

Said it from day 1, the biggest threat to United winning the league, was United themselves.

Whether that's down to the manager fucking about, or the players who seemed to believe the hype at times, who knows, maybe/probably a bit of both.

But the fact this relatively expensively squad hasn't sewn up the league up by now is criminal.

But here we are, panicking about a game v a team with players that weren't good enough for us almost 10 years ago.

FFS United, you shower of useless cunts!

What a time to be alive, 31 fucking points dropped so far. Wankers!
 

Football isn't played on paper and players are only worth the money someone is willing to pay. We have paid  fees and fork out fortunes in relative terms for the likes of Watt, Middleton, Birighitti  etc.

I have said this before Davie on another thread, we ain't and never were 'scooshing' any league. Never in my lifetime has our club done anything the easy way.

This side our club have put together are wilting (clearly), they really are wobbling and no wonder. Most have seen there best days and the young ones we need to provide a spark and a lack of fear are going through a tough spell.

I think you are right it's a bit of both mate, manager is making mistakes and the players ain't performing as well as they can. All that said they need us for the next 6 games.

Look back at 1995/6 and you will see a team with international players,club legends, spending over a million in transfer fees and they never won it. They couldn't get over the line, they choke, they bottled it.

Fuck staying in this league for another season. I've seen us go down three times and never went back up winning this league ( we got handed it in 2019

Dundee United » The Shed vs Raith » 27/3/2024 9:51 am

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Patience has been in short supply from some of our fans this season which has been understandable at times. This game on Saturday,  you bet your last pound that Ian Murray will be saying 'keep it tight, nick the first goal and the players will drown under the pressure'.

I would imagine that our backline from left to right will be Middleton, Graham, Gallagher and young Miller T. They will be playing in front of a goalkeeper who's form has dipped a little over the past few months.

The above need us on Saturday to be patient and not get too excited when they make mistakes (they 100% will).

Midfield in my opinion we have the upper hand and up front both Watt and Moult MUST take the chances that come our way.

Our guys are under more pressure than theirs, our expectations are greater than theirs. They haven't coped too well of recent,granted but nor have Raith.

Winning a title is never easy but three points on Saturday would put a big dent in the hopes of the fifers.

Dundee United » Modern Football.....United's style » 25/3/2024 6:50 pm

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Stillliving wrote:

Things that were better in the 70s

1 No use of the phrase excessive force
2 metal screw in studs
3 No clowns with holes in the back of their socks.
4 changing ends at half time.
5 Only one substitute.
6 keepers not wearing gloves
7 the shoulder charge
8 no use of under armour
9 50pence to get in
10 hip flasks in jackets.

That's 10 for starters I'm sure there's more

 
Dundee United.

Dundee United » Modern Football.....United's style » 25/3/2024 6:04 pm

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Finn Seemann wrote:

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Go and watch some 1970s football on YouTube and tell me it's not better.
Games gone soft.

 
Morton reminded me of 70s and 80s football.

Hard as fuck and kick anything that moves, direct stuff, keeper was kicking it out like Peter Shilton, time wasting the lot.

The ground hasn't been touched from the 70s, half the crowd had flares on and the Bee Gees were getting belted out over the wireless.

😃

Beat our 'Galacticos' at Tannadice with those 70s tactics with a far inferior team than ours (on paper).  Their fans seemed quite happy with that.  Ours didn't.

Yes they did that day, a last minute winner, would have any fan happy.

I don't think the Dougie Imrie approach to football though is going down to well of late though.

Dundee United » Modern Football.....United's style » 25/3/2024 2:20 pm

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Stillliving wrote:

Go and watch some 1970s football on YouTube and tell me it's not better.
Games gone soft.

 
Morton reminded me of 70s and 80s football.

Hard as fuck and kick anything that moves, direct stuff, keeper was kicking it out like Peter Shilton, time wasting the lot.

The ground hasn't been touched from the 70s, half the crowd had flares on and the Bee Gees were getting belted out over the wireless.

😃

Dundee United » UTD vs ICT - Saturday 23rd March » 24/3/2024 1:44 pm

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Morphman wrote:

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Going to put it out there that I think this 4-2-3-1 / 4-3-3 is completely stifling us and doesn't suit the team selection. Particularly with this latest trend of sticking Miller Thomson, a winger, in at full back.

For me, we should be playing 352 with Gallagher, Holt, Graham at the back. This would allow us to stick a partner up front with Moult, probably Grieve as I think Watt is better playing as a ten, and creates a different dynamic by still having numbers in midfield.

Mcmann has been fine this year, but his delivery is awful, Grimshaw runs like he's towing another Grimshaw behind him. Going forward we are far, far too predictable due to the lack of quality coming from the fullbacks in the attacking areas. Mark our wingers well, and you don't need to worry so much as the single forward player has no one to flick on the long balls that are caused by this.

Not to worry, the 4231 tombola will be back in full flow next week.

It was 4-4-2  yesterday until 75 mins
 

 
If it was, then it sure fooled me. Makes no difference to be fair, the point about the threat from wide men being nullified making us toothless remains the same if we continue to play 4 at the back.

It was 4-4-2 but you are 100% correct, unless we take our chances it won't matter what system we play.

We are toothless up top, the Arbroath game said it all. Any striker worth their salt would have had a hat trick(at least)that day.

I don't even get off my seat now when Middleton get the ball in the box let alone through on goal.  How many times this season has he failed to convert guilt edges chances, I've lost count?

One thing for certain, the players have piled even more pressure on themselves and next Saturday they need to finish off any chances we get.

Dundee United » UTD vs ICT - Saturday 23rd March » 24/3/2024 8:12 am

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You are watching a different midfield to the two guys I watch, granted they are not Billy McKinlay or Barry Robson but what do you expect,  we are in the championship.  The two guys pick up the MOM award almost every week.

Also I get that we are all frustrated but we don't only play one way,  that's not correct.

Yesterday for example, we tried down the sides,  through the middle, and a more direct approach.  Nobody that was there yesterday or at Cappilow can say any different.

Our finishing is what's killing us up top and schoolboy stuff at the back.

Last few games

Morton- Moult and Tilson both missed easy chances. Walton dropped the ball on his goal line and we got away with it.

Arbroath- the only guy who walked off the pitch that never missed a chance was our keeper, should have been at least 6 of 7.

Dunfermline- The defending from some of senior/experienced 🤷‍♂️ these guys who were rock solid at the start of the season. The third goal was is not one that they will want to look back at too often .

That said, we missed plenty of chances in the second half , Moult again hit me in row Z when it's was easier to hit the net. Middleton was clean through as he was against twice the previous week vsArbroath. 

And finally that yesterday, Liam Grimshaw, there ain't no defending that, laughable if he wasn't wearing tangerine.

But at the other end,  Holt, Docherty,  Watt, Middleton,  Fotheringham and Moult all had very good chances and bar Moult wonder goal none of them converted their chances.

That's what killing us, not the lack of a target man or playing different systems, teams haven't sussed us out, the other teams are still shite. We are just not taking our chances and making stupid and costly mistakes at the back.

Dundee United » UTD vs ICT - Saturday 23rd March » 23/3/2024 7:35 pm

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Tek wrote:

He's made an absolute cunt of this job, in every single way.

Including recruitment (don't buy this myth that his recruitment has been good at all).

Not signing a Left back because he was relaxed about Kevin Holt being able to play there. Then today doesn't play him, instead playing a right sided winger there. Now Holt is injured and our only LB options are Miller Thomson and Glenn Middleton. I mean, c'mon to fuck.

Right Back a similar mess.

No-one in midfield who can boss a game.

No different type of Striker. Were crying out for a target man. Instead he signs Grieve who imo is a League Two level player.

A total mess.

There is a limit to our budget in the championship mate, as much as it would be great to have two players challenging for every position the budget I guess won't stretch that far.

We have in my opinion the two best midfielders in the league who dominate the midfield.  You could probably count in one hand the amount of games we have lost in the middle of the park (Raith home and Dunfermline away).

Disagree also about a target man being the priority,  the priority was Pace, unfortunately we have just signed pace but forgot about footballing ability.

Today was about as frustrated I've been at a game for a long time, so many players had an off day. That was meant to be a response to last week, simply not good enough.

So many poor touches, stray passes, struggling at times even kick the ball, and finishing of the lowest quality.

It's the first time this season I've thought we ain't going up, there was absolutely nothing about us today, no shape or an intent to how we're trying to score against a very poor side.

Dundee United » UTD vs ICT - Saturday 23rd March » 22/3/2024 2:11 pm

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Finn Seemann wrote:

I’d definitely drop Gallagher and Graham would get the nod. I’d like to see a team without Watt and Middleton but I don’t think that’s possible given the lack of depth. All a bit depressing

 
A  wee chance tomorrow to try and get back in the saddle Finn.

Good news is that we might only have another 7 games to go.

I agree about Watt, he does make an impact coming off the bench but can't see Goodwin dropping him.

Dundee United » UTD vs ICT - Saturday 23rd March » 22/3/2024 2:03 pm

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dufc2019 wrote:

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I've no idea where to start after last Friday.

Do you swap Gallagher for Graham, young lad must have chapped the gaffers door on Monday morning.

Others had an off night however Grieve and Tilson were really bad, really really bad.

Surely Kia and Middleton start with Docherty and Sibbald in the middle.

But as others say, just win, that's all that matters.

I find it hard to understand why he is starting Grieve tomorrow apart from 45 mins against Arbroath (when we were 2 up anyway) he has done nothing in a united shirt. We will effectively be starting with 10 men.
 

 
My only thinking is that Goodwin thinks he will come on with a run of games.

That said, not the likes of Rabbitch and Henri Anier have I seen someone struggle to get the ball under control. It was a real difficult watch last week seeing him take three or four touches to do the basics.

He did do well against Arbroath but even at my age I would still have fancied my chances up against that defence.

Hopefully McMann has recovered in time, his worst game of the season last week but he is one guy that has a little credit in the bank this season.

Dundee United » UTD vs ICT - Saturday 23rd March » 21/3/2024 8:36 pm

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I've no idea where to start after last Friday.

Do you swap Gallagher for Graham, young lad must have chapped the gaffers door on Monday morning.

Others had an off night however Grieve and Tilson were really bad, really really bad.

Surely Kia and Middleton start with Docherty and Sibbald in the middle.

But as others say, just win, that's all that matters.

Dundee United » The Shed vs Raith » 20/3/2024 8:04 pm

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Hopefully for the better 2019.

Dundee United » The Shed vs Raith » 20/3/2024 6:16 pm

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Confirmed by the Foundation via email that the club have decided its best to house the Raith fans behind the goal in the Shed.

Fuckin unbelievable, or is it?

Dundee United » Hospitality » 20/3/2024 2:01 pm

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I've done it a few times, they get in touch prior to the game via email.

When you arrive at the door closer to the half way line there's a steward with a clip board taking names on arrival.

Hope you enjoy it, we thought it was excellent value for money.

Dundee United » Dunfermline vs Utd - Friday 15th March (7.45PM) » 19/3/2024 1:27 pm

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Is he injured or have we told him we need him for Saturday?

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1. England
2. last 16

Dundee United » Dunfermline vs Utd - Friday 15th March (7.45PM) » 17/3/2024 10:36 am

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2 days on and I'm still annoyed and a wee bit stunned by that kind of a performance at this stage of the season.

After the Morton match where we showed all the credentials to win a title,we were served up that. Reading through the posts I don't think I can add any more adjectives to describe it. It simply can never happen again.

The captain and Sibbald were absolutely miles off it, formation was wrong, all the defenders had an off night, keeper could have done better, subs were too late, strikers were hitting it right at the defenders and showed no composure.

With the benefit of 48 hours, it's turned out to be not a disastrous as I first thought.  We move on to Saturday against Inverness in what will be another tough match, there must be a response to put that right.

Dundee United » Dunfermline vs Utd - Friday 15th March (7.45PM) » 12/3/2024 4:05 pm

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dufc2019 wrote:

Tek wrote:

No one fancy bringing Wotherspoon back in?

has any of the January signings actually won us any points ? not sure they have
 

 
I'm not too fussed about Wootherspoon, we really didn't need another guy to take up space in the treatment room but if he's fit he's a better option than Glass and Mochrie.

With Grieve, I do like his work rate however I've seen enough already to gauge that he is very average but for the budget we have I suppose their ain't much better out there.

Interesting to hear Spence (I know) on the podcast last week say that Roy McGregor was playing hardball with us regarding Simon Murray. Grieve is Simon Murray ordered from Wish.

It's s bad day when you can't afford Murray but are paying fortunes to players carried over from the Ashgar era.

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