United Arab Emarite wrote:

Aye line him up Tek, there's a lot of you at it. The poor lad has no goodwill whatsoever. Deserves better but our poisoned support won't have it. Give him a break.
 

I suspect he thought he was stuck with Moller and his wage whilst the window was open so what you are really saying Tek is that we should have turned down the (reported) £700K and kept Moller.  Personally, having witnessed Moller's last contribution at Easter Road I have no issue with offloading him for no replacement.  As my son said at the game, he makes you think we still have futures as professional footballers.  I'm 55!  We could put a kid from the Youths up there and it would be little different to Moller's contribution.

Finn Seemann wrote:

I suspect he thought he was stuck with Moller and his wage whilst the window was open so what you are really saying Tek is that we should have turned down the (reported) £700K and kept Moller.  .

I'd prefer it if you didn't put words in my mouth, Finn.


 

Tek wrote:

dufc5 wrote:

As mentioned previously in this thread players that are out of contract at this stage of the season are out of contract for a reason and will likely not improve us.

Better not to even try then.
 

I'm sure we will have looked at any available options, no point just bringing anyone in if they won't improve us. 

Re atmosphere at away games being toxic I don't get it, you've spent all that time, money, effort to just go and moan like fuck, some folk take no joy it seems, game lasts 90 minutes. let it play out.

Moller---- 

Schrodinger's Donkey

Can't afford to turn the money down, can't afford not maybe not replace him.

I get that it was maybe out of the blue, and until it happened there was no need to replace him, by which time we couldn't anyway,  but we are short now regardless of his ability/contribution.

I personally would've been looking for an additional striker anyway,  I think most fan accepted that keeper and a goalscorer positions were we were coming up short.

Maybe Agyei and Farrugia will go on to be stars for us, but unless they were a taken them now or miss out deal, I think we'd had enough to cope without them.

Im no big fan of Goodwin but I do feel he's being blamed for something here that I genuinely dont think is his fault. I'm sure there's not a single manager out there that wouldn't bring in another striker in our situation if they were given the option. Plenty of people wanted rid of Moller and wanted Stirton to get his chance,and thats exactly where we are at. I personally didn't think Stirton was ready and still don't  but he's now got the opportunity to prove me wrong.  I'd sincerely love to be wrong.

BMT wrote:

I know it was late on in the Spartans game and they were tiring ,pushing for a goal and pushed a CH up but definitely thought Owen genuinely offered more than Watters ever has.
Can’t for the life of me see why we wouldn’t start Owen over Watters.

 
If it was possible, he should’ve been punted back to Barnsley last month. Give me Stirton off the bench every game over that pudding any day.

BMT wrote:

I know it was late on in the Spartans game and they were tiring ,pushing for a goal and pushed a CH up but definitely thought Owen genuinely offered more than Watters ever has.
Can’t for the life of me see why we wouldn’t start Owen over Watters.

I totally agree with that BMT. Also think although Stirton is really raw he is at least going to improve with game time and is a United supporter. Watters will not improve, we've all seen how poor he's been since last November now. Not one good performance in that time.

Agree with Tek though, Goodwin should have used his budget better to sign a Forward. I don't necessarily agree either that there is no-one out there without a club who couldn't offer something to us.

He (Goodwin) hasn't handled the January window very well again imo. It was only a month ago we planned to punt Stirton to Airdrie. Now he's front and centre. Seems poor planning to me, that and putting too much trust in players who were letting him down. Moller started his last two games before his sale remember.
 

Last edited by Wee Bobo (20/2/2026 9:37 pm)

Tek wrote:

Goalies -
AMB - Keep
Dave Richards - Bin

Defenders -
Krisztian Kereztes - Keep
Charlie Dewar (Utd hold one year option) - Keep
Ross Graham - Keep
Ryan Strain - Bin
Luca Stephenson - We won't be able to keep
Vicko Sevelj - 100% Keep

Midfielders -
Kristijan Trapanovski - Bin
Ivan Dolcek - Bin
Craig Sibbald - Keep
Amar Fatah - We won't be able to keep, sadly
Lewis O'Donnell - Bin
Isaac Pappoe - Bin 
Miller Thomson - Bin

Forwards -

Max Watters - Bin

Changed my mind about AMB, Keresztes and Graham.

We need drastic changes in Goalkeeping position and at Centre Half.
 

Just for reference though. Emiliano Martinez the Aston villa and Argentinian national keeper just slapped one right out in front of him from which Burnley scored. I think we're never going to get a keeper thats perfect at our level, a Dusan Pernis, Rado or Benji would be ot of our financial reach these days and even then you'd still get a few errors. That said, our recruitment in that department has still been fucking shocking

Arabdownsouth wrote:

Just for reference though. Emiliano Martinez the Aston villa and Argentinian national keeper just slapped one right out in front of him from which Burnley scored. I think we're never going to get a keeper thats perfect at our level, a Dusan Pernis, Rado or Benji would be ot of our financial reach these days and even then you'd still get a few errors. That said, our recruitment in that department has still been fucking shocking

 
Our recruitment team is absolutely to blame. Dave Richards is a fine back up keeper.

Why the fuck were we messing about looking at a Ukrainian unknown?

Kucherenko cost us a good 9pts. That ultimately cost us the top 6. That is absolutely the fault of our club.