must have been Esselink I saw

Could be today but more likely tomorrow

Tek wrote:

JerryDungle wrote:

Tek wrote:

Our transfer business is freaking me out now tbh.

Apart from Camara, none of these players know what it takes to play in UK football.

I hope I am being overly worried and anxious about nothing. 

I'm not averse to a couple of leftfield foreign gems. Just not a whole team of them. That normally only goes one way.

 
I agree to an extent. It is a risk going after so many foreign players, especially when last season was built on a core of primarily Scottish players. But looking around the league, is there really that many Scottish players that stood out as being worth going for? I can’t think of many, and the ones that did are likely not gettable.

Probably talking more getting English boys on loan JD, but there are one or two local lads who i think would have been great signings.

Brad Spencer at Falkirk and Danny Armstrong at Killie being two.

I know we signed a good few foreign lads last season but the spine of the team was still Walton, Gallagher, Holt, Docherty, Moult, Dalby. All experienced UK players.

Now they're all gone.

You need that homegrown mentality in the dressing room. 
 

I absolutely agree but if the right one's aren't available/don't want to come then that is football - that backbone you mentioned, every single one of them declined hard since January 1st this year. We simply cannot have that much of a drop again - if it is young, foreign exports but we keep the same form then I for one am happy.
 

Been told we’ve enquired about Dominic Corness

Trapanovskis X account gone.....

Told this morning Cardiff have expressed an interest

Arabdownsouth wrote:

Conway11 wrote:

Arabdownsouth wrote:

 Worked a treat with Birighitti if I remember correctly? The point I'm making is that they don't have to go anywhere and if no one wants to pay them what we are then they'll still be here.

Shipped out to Killie on loan? probably a % of wage saved? I know this, but letting clubs know they are available gives us an advantage on getting rid and gives the player and agent scope to explore new options. 
 

 
He went to Killie for a week 🤣🤣🤣

2 weeks. But the point still stands make them unavailable for 1st team games and notify clubs that they are surplus to requirements. 

Tony watt  - surplus to requirements, out on loan from the beginning of the season

Billy King - told by Hearts he wasn't needed we pounced.

Willo Flood - told the same by Middlesbrough, came back to us.

 

Arabdownsouth wrote:

Conway11 wrote:

JerryDungle wrote:

All the announced departures now leave us with a squad of:

Ryan Strain
Vicko Sevelj
Ross Graham
Kristijan Trapanovski
Will Ferry
Richard Odada
Jack Newman (not announced in the releases surprisingly)
Craig Sibbald
Glenn Middleton
Kai Fotheringham
Jort van der Sande
Dave Richards
Rory MacLeod (Nothing Announced on him either, doubt Southampton take up their option)
Miller Thomson
Lewis O’Donnell
Samuel Cleall-Harding
Scott Constable
Owen Stilton
Meshack Ubochioma

Lots and lots of work to do, I’d start by trying to bin van der Sande, Odada, Meshack and Fotheringham. None of them have shown anywhere near enough to prove they’re capable of playing at the level we need.

VDS should be able to find a club back in Dutch football despite his barren goal record here. Fotheringham you’d imagine would be of interest to most Championship sides based on his goal record in the division we were down there. Meshack and Odada I reckon will be the harder ones to move on. Meshack’s attitude sounds terrible based on what I’ve Davie Martindale say about him, and where is he realistically gonna get a deal as good as he likely has here? Odada sounds like his attitude is fine but just looks like he’s never seen a football pitch in his life and is struggling to even get games in Serbia. Might just be a case of having to cut our losses on the pair of them and paying up their contracts.

I would keep 

Strain
Sevelj
Graham
Trapa
Ferry
Thomson
O'Donnell
Harding
Constable
Stirton


rest can be free to find another club

 

 Yeah it's not that easy to just release players who have a contract though. Also id be keeping Sibbald and Middleton,plus Richards has done nothing wrong either.

Yeah I mentioned nothing about releasing them. Telling them they are free to find another club is totally different.

Knowing they are of no use lets their agent alert other clubs making it easier to get rid.

We have offered a deal to Middleton - hasn't accepted yet

Finn Seemann wrote:

Conway11 wrote:

Finn Seemann wrote:

Some people need to learn to read.  Middelton was rank rotten last season.  Compared to that he has been fantastic!  I'd say this season he has been mediocre to good (only in spells, not whole games and often played out of position by our great manager).

As for claims of being gaslit (Conway11), I don't think a footy forum is the place for you if you are going to be so sensitive.  I'm not very sure what gaslit actually means but I certainly don't post on here to belittle anyone or their views, but if I think they are talking shit I'll say so.  If people don't agree with what I say, I actually don't give two f*cks.  Gaslit!  Dearie me...

I don't think football is for you if you think Middleton has had a fantastic season. On the 'gaslit' meaning - why comment if you don't know what it means?

From January all we have heard is how good Docherty/Middleton etc are when in actual fact - both are pish. But fans are being given drops of stats and facts when watching the actual play tells you a different story

Dearie me, do I have to point it out in words of one syllable?  I agree with you that Middelton hasn't had a fantastic season.  It's been on the cusp of passable - the point was he's been better, comparatively than last season.

Football is for me.  I watch a lot of it.  I can take pleasure watching football at all tiers in Scotland and take in as much 4-7 tier as I do top tier.  Not everyone has to be prime Maradona for it to be enjoyable.  As others have suggested it is maybe you that needs to re-evaluate what you get out of the game.

Docherty and Middleton are not pish.  Granted I think their true level is bottom of the Prem/top of the Championship and I agree we need to strive for better players, but I am also realistic about where the club is and the quality it can get on to the park.  Would I extend their contracts?  Unless we have likely better players lined up (and in tha

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