Richs2Rags wrote:

What is the ruling regarding the straight red?  i'm i correct in assuming he will miss the QoS game plus the next cup game vs Cally/County?

I always thought a straight red for violent conduct meant you missed the next 2 games immediately thereafter. Which would mean he misses QotS away and Falkirk away.

But I could be wrong on that R2R.
 

I thought it was 1 league then 1 cup

After searching i found this, https://www.scottishfa.co.uk/scottish-fa/football-governance/disciplinary/player-suspensions/
gets updated every friday, so we,ll find out in a few days, unless the question was brought up at Robbie's Q&A on monday night, and anyone was in attendance.

Richs2Rags wrote:

Also just heard on BBC Scotland news that McGinns assault on Cammy Smith is to have no further action, cited as "insufficient evidence", have thay not seen Scotsport, Arabzone, St midden TV, STV sports news, BBC scotland, etc, etc, all freeze framed, enlarged, analyzed and all in agreement it was worthy of a red. (maybe not st midden tv) SFA  Blinkered, protecting their half wit officials.

Well put R2R, you're bang on. Very disappointing.
But, to take a positive from a negative, the St Mirren captain not being banned will help St M's cause in vital league games to come if you get my drift.
 

Arabdownsouth wrote:

TheShed wrote:

Can’t find the disciplinary procedures on SFA site, used to be easy to find so think they’ve been taken off.

Think it depends whether he was sent off for violent conduct or serious foul play.  Will def miss Saturday then if it’s violent conduct next 2 games I think, if serious foul play next cup game.  Going from memory so could be wrong.

 
I'm not seeing how it can be classed as violent conduct tbh, serious foul play perhaps. Then again forearm smashes are considered acceptable so fuck knows!

 
I agree, would imagine it’s serious foul play, but Willie Collum....

It's a real lottery presently, refereeing standards. 

I think Willie Collum has simply been left off the appointments listings for this week, which might be seen as a reprimand, the SFA not wanting to officially recognised he fucked up, especially in the case of McGinn's assault on Cammy Smith.

And of all the controversies lately, that is the mistake which was, in my view, most likely to cause serious damage, as it was a deliberate blow to the head of a player.

And, wait for it, this week at Palmerston we've got.....................................




Andrew Dallas!

Arabnophobia wrote:

TheShed wrote:

Can’t find the disciplinary procedures on SFA site, used to be easy to find so think they’ve been taken off.

Think it depends whether he was sent off for violent conduct or serious foul play.  Will def miss Saturday then if it’s violent conduct next 2 games I think, if serious foul play next cup game.  Going from memory so could be wrong.

 
Courier today saying, "Neilson expects to be without midfielder Calum Butcher for this league game plus the William Hill Scottish Cup quarter-final".

 
Makes sense, serious foul play, 1 game immediate then 1 in the cup is what it used to be and looks like it still is.

Wonder why the disciplinary procedures aren’t on SFA site anymore tho? Certainly not where they used to be.

TheShed wrote:

Arabnophobia wrote:

TheShed wrote:

Can’t find the disciplinary procedures on SFA site, used to be easy to find so think they’ve been taken off.

Think it depends whether he was sent off for violent conduct or serious foul play.  Will def miss Saturday then if it’s violent conduct next 2 games I think, if serious foul play next cup game.  Going from memory so could be wrong.

 
Courier today saying, "Neilson expects to be without midfielder Calum Butcher for this league game plus the William Hill Scottish Cup quarter-final".

 
Makes sense, serious foul play, 1 game immediate then 1 in the cup is what it used to be and looks like it still is.

Wonder why the disciplinary procedures aren’t on SFA site anymore tho? Certainly not where they used to be.

I'm a bit pisshed but think they are on the SPFL site bud. Suspensions are there and affy slow to update week to week.
 

Read that even if a compliance officer pulls someone up for a panel decision the panel consists of the ex refs and requires a unanimous decision.

This is where part of the problem lies for sure in my opinion. The chances that one of the panel can scupper the whole process with a biased, balancing up or bee in their bonnet is there.

We have lawyers blocking the initial the instigation knowing they are up against proving without doubt due to celtic and the rangers having big lawyers to fight them, the majority who decide the outcome on the side of the ugly sisters and the same with the refs.

Whole thing needs taken appart and put back together in a way that is fair for all.


Edit to say:- I like that the rangers have called for a review of the whole thing and find it ironic but recently the norm that they put out a toddler style knee jerk statement in the huff. Bring on the fairer system without bias!

Listen fae around 12 mins...

https://www.bbc.co.uk/sounds/play/p070sl1k

VAR will clear up fuckall compaired to most countries unless we get the current issues tae fuck!

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