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I know it'd be a big gamble (and we probably can't afford another).
But I think Barry Robson would get the whole club 'fired up'.
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Tek wrote:
I know it'd be a big gamble (and we probably can't afford another).
But I think Barry Robson would get the whole club 'fired up'.
Anyone is a gamble tbh.
Wouldn’t be dead against a Robson/Daly type appointment.
There’s sometimes a lot to be said for the fresh enthusiasm of that 1st chance in a job. Would need a proper experienced no.2 alongside.
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TheShed wrote:
Tek wrote:
I know it'd be a big gamble (and we probably can't afford another).
But I think Barry Robson would get the whole club 'fired up'.
Anyone is a gamble tbh.
Wouldn’t be dead against a Robson/Daly type appointment.
There’s sometimes a lot to be said for the fresh enthusiasm of that 1st chance in a job. Would need a proper experienced no.2 alongside.
Jim McLean had never managed before.
That turned out alright.
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Tek wrote:
I know it'd be a big gamble (and we probably can't afford another).
But I think Barry Robson would get the whole club 'fired up'.
Agree with that Tek
somebody who hates losing
make it happen
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Tek wrote:
TheShed wrote:
Tek wrote:
I know it'd be a big gamble (and we probably can't afford another).
But I think Barry Robson would get the whole club 'fired up'.
Anyone is a gamble tbh.
Wouldn’t be dead against a Robson/Daly type appointment.
There’s sometimes a lot to be said for the fresh enthusiasm of that 1st chance in a job. Would need a proper experienced no.2 alongside.Jim McLean had never managed before.
That turned out alright.
I’d take him back now.
Trying to get someone of that type who would take control of the whole club and say “no we’re doing it my way and that’s it now get out of my way” is so difficult now.
McLean did it
Levein did it
Looking at the younger managers out there just now I don’t see it in anyone. Maybe Badger but I really don’t know.
Only out of work Scottish manager who I know is capable of it is John McGlynn and folk will laugh at that, but it’s that type we need.
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Hopkins
Sets his teams up with a clear plan
Hard to score against
Good at set pieces
Winner that knows lower leagues and how to get promoted
Works loans well
Available right now
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McIntyre was in the stand yesterday, not seen his name mentioned in this thread yet.
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Rocky Raccoon wrote:
McIntyre was in the stand yesterday, not seen his name mentioned in this thread yet.
He has a thread of his own lol
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Arabdownsouth wrote:
Rocky Raccoon wrote:
McIntyre was in the stand yesterday, not seen his name mentioned in this thread yet.
He has a thread of his own lol
He wasn't on the list provided of choices though.
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Goodwin and Barry Robson would be my two picks right now.
We need a winner in the dugout.
Both inexperienced but I think the benefits of being good motivators would outweigh that negative.
Neither Jack Ross or Hopkin had much experience at this level either.
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Robson for me too. He articulated what the club needs in that interview. It needs more than a manager, it needs a big personality who the support will almost defer to the way they did with Wee Jim and Levein.
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lifesanocean wrote:
Robson for me too. He articulated what the club needs in that interview. It needs more than a manager, it needs a big personality who the support will almost defer to the way they did with Wee Jim and Levein.
He spoke well, and clearly still has a passion for the club, which was echoed in his frustration about the position we’re in. We definitely need a big character to rejuvenate the club and demand the respect of the dressing room. Robson may be that character, but he’s untested as a manager, our support is a troubled one, and it’s a different kind of responsibility to shoulder that burden if things start to go sour.
I’ve said it multiple times, but Hopkin’s the perfect fit for us. Taken a team to back-to-back promotions on a shoestring budget, knows how to handle a dressing room and get them fighting for him. He plays the direct football we all crave, instead of the tiki-taka bullshit we’ve been fed from the last few charlatans in the hotseat, he seems like a big enough character to take on the demands of the support and really get them behind him. And most incredibly of all, is available for zilch.
I really hope we don’t wait too long to pull the trigger on the already dead-as-a-dodo horse, and put ourselves in a position again where all the good candidates have been snapped up, and we’re scrambling around for weeks before ending up with another Laszlo or Mixu.
We’re one game into the season, any manager coming in now will know they have more than enough time to turn things around. Hang off till the end of September when we’re already way off the pace, and we’ll find it way harder to convince someone to take on the mammoth task of getting us promoted.
If Mike Martin’s issue is his pride taking a battering by sacking Laszlo so early after publicly backing him, he’d get a hell of a lot more credit from me by holding his hands up now and admitting he got it wrong, and going and getting a proper manager in. He’s the ONLY one that seemingly can’t see how this is gonna end up.
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Barry Robson, cause he said some things to Simon Ferry?
Come on guys. I like Barry Robson, and haven’t watched the interview, but is that what it takes? Has Laszlo really got us latching on to anything..
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Not Robbie Neilson, please.
MockChop wrote:
Barry Robson, cause he said some things to Simon Ferry?
Come on guys. I like Barry Robson, and haven’t watched the interview, but is that what it takes? Has Laszlo really got us latching on to anything..
You're right MC, I don't think Simon Ferry realised he was interviewing Barry Robson for the United job.
But you know what, it's such a phukn lottery you'd be as well giving Simon Ferry the phukn job.
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MockChop wrote:
Barry Robson, cause he said some things to Simon Ferry?
Come on guys. I like Barry Robson, and haven’t watched the interview, but is that what it takes? Has Laszlo really got us latching on to anything..
I'd watch it first before you rubbish it. I'd be happy with Hopkin provided we sign a target man. My big worry with him is he jumps ship in a years time after getting us promoted like he did at Livi. His eyes are fixed on a job in England asap and any job up here is just a stepping stone.
About a year ago TEK also was extolling the virtues of big Jon Daly after he got that smug prick Brendan Rodgers telt when he was Hertz caretaker boss. I'd take him as number 2 with Robson. Reckon Flood would be Robson's number 2 though.
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lifesanocean wrote:
MockChop wrote:
Barry Robson, cause he said some things to Simon Ferry?
Come on guys. I like Barry Robson, and haven’t watched the interview, but is that what it takes? Has Laszlo really got us latching on to anything..I'd watch it first before you rubbish it. I'd be happy with Hopkin provided we sign a target man. My big worry with him is he jumps ship in a years time after getting us promoted like he did at Livi. His eyes are fixed on a job in England asap and any job up here is just a stepping stone.
If any manager does a good enough job that other teams want him, that can only be a good thing, no?
We’ve got way bigger problems than worrying about any prospective manager jumping ship.
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lifesanocean wrote:
MockChop wrote:
Barry Robson, cause he said some things to Simon Ferry?
Come on guys. I like Barry Robson, and haven’t watched the interview, but is that what it takes? Has Laszlo really got us latching on to anything..I'd watch it first before you rubbish it. I'd be happy with Hopkin provided we sign a target man. My big worry with him is he jumps ship in a years time after getting us promoted like he did at Livi. His eyes are fixed on a job in England asap and any job up here is just a stepping stone.
About a year ago TEK also was extolling the virtues of big Jon Daly after he got that smug prick Brendan Rodgers telt when he was Hertz caretaker boss. I'd take him as number 2 with Robson. Reckon Flood would be Robson's number 2 though.
Id be more than happy having a manager use us as stepping stone. In order for another "bigger team" to come in for him it would mean he has been successful with us!
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MockChop wrote:
Barry Robson, cause he said some things to Simon Ferry?
Come on guys. I like Barry Robson, and haven’t watched the interview, but is that what it takes? Has Laszlo really got us latching on to anything..
There's a bit more to it than that in fairness.
We all know what type of character he is. He's currently working at a club that have instilled exactly the type of winning mentality we desperately need. He's got designs on becoming a manager and is working at that just now.
For United to get a manager who has the ability to make a long term difference to the club, which is really what we need, we need to either get lucky in appointing a great manager before he becomes great, like McLean. Or we get someone who has suffered a setback and needs a job like United to build up his reputation again. Like Levein.
I think Robson might be a fit for the first category. Not that I'm comparing him to McLean obviously.
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I like Robson, great player for us, talks a great game, knowledgeable and clearly has it for future management.
Be a massive gamble though and not sure we can risk that after all the recent debacles. Other negative would be his head seems easily turned. Gets his break into the Scotland squad whilst with us, virtually instantly wants to leave and join the Tims.
Love big Jon Daly and as above clearly has it, but a gamble also.
Both these lads will be managers and clearly have a great interest in United. Do we risk it to give them their first job, mmmh , not sure at all.
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Happy to have any manager or player using us as a stepping stone to a bigger job. Such individuals will be working their socks off and we will be the beneficiaries.
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I would have Robson, someone that has shown a passion for the club. Plus, could it BE any worse?
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Gary Neville was lauded as a tactical genius based on his first stint on Sky
Enough for Valencia to ‘take a chance’
I don’t think we are in a position to roll the dice on someone who comes across well - I want a proven track record of someone that can organise a team and win games
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Ex Houston Arab wrote:
Gary Neville was lauded as a tactical genius based on his first stint on Sky
Enough for Valencia to ‘take a chance’
I don’t think we are in a position to roll the dice on someone who comes across well - I want a proven track record of someone that can organise a team and win games
Agree. We need someone experienced. As much as id love robson back at the club now is not the time.
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Ex Houston Arab wrote:
Gary Neville was lauded as a tactical genius based on his first stint on Sky
Enough for Valencia to ‘take a chance’
I don’t think we are in a position to roll the dice on someone who comes across well - I want a proven track record of someone that can organise a team and win games
You could also list a whole host of experienced managers who have failed spectacularly.
I take your general point though, and B&T's. This might not be the time for an inexperienced man. I'm possibly touting Robson because none of the 'old heads' banded about on here fill me with any great excitement.