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25/4/2017 8:23 pm  #201


Re: Development League 2016/2017 Season

6 first team players embarrassing

 

25/4/2017 8:33 pm  #202


Re: Development League 2016/2017 Season

SuperMario wrote:

6 first team players embarrassing

Who were the first teamers? Nowt on official site or twitter.
 

 

25/4/2017 8:35 pm  #203


Re: Development League 2016/2017 Season

Donaldson, Dixon, Toshney, Telfer, Nicholls were 5 of them.

 

25/4/2017 8:38 pm  #204


Re: Development League 2016/2017 Season

TheShed wrote:

Donaldson, Dixon, Toshney, Telfer, Nicholls were 5 of them.

Cheers
 

 

25/4/2017 8:43 pm  #205


Re: Development League 2016/2017 Season

Coote the other apparently and the only one to impress.

 

25/4/2017 8:47 pm  #206


Re: Development League 2016/2017 Season

TheShed wrote:

Coote the other apparently and the only one to impress.

Just noticed county needed to win to be champions. Quite impressive fae them .
 

 

25/4/2017 8:48 pm  #207


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blackandtangerine wrote:

TheShed wrote:

Coote the other apparently and the only one to impress.

Just noticed county needed to win to be champions. Quite impressive fae them .
 

 
They seem to have the youth thing working, amazing how it can be done if you get it right.

 

25/4/2017 9:07 pm  #208


Re: Development League 2016/2017 Season

TheShed wrote:

blackandtangerine wrote:

TheShed wrote:

Coote the other apparently and the only one to impress.

Just noticed county needed to win to be champions. Quite impressive fae them .
 

 
They seem to have the youth thing working, amazing how it can be done if you get it right.

True.
 

 

26/4/2017 10:30 am  #209


Re: Development League 2016/2017 Season

was up at the gem yesterday with the young lad, first half we played OK, we went 2-0 up County were always a threat particularly up against oor right back (no sure who he was), Donaldson & Toshney at CB the latter getting injured. For me Brett Long the keeper was the only one that impressed me seems to talk his defence through the gem well. none of the 'first teamers' made a claim fir the weekend IMO, Coote flatters do deceive fir me couple nice touches on the half way line very little interms of changing the gem.

 

26/4/2017 3:25 pm  #210


Re: Development League 2016/2017 Season

BigAndyFTD wrote:

was up at the gem yesterday with the young lad, first half we played OK, we went 2-0 up County were always a threat particularly up against oor right back (no sure who he was), Donaldson & Toshney at CB the latter getting injured. For me Brett Long the keeper was the only one that impressed me seems to talk his defence through the gem well. none of the 'first teamers' made a claim fir the weekend IMO, Coote flatters do deceive fir me couple nice touches on the half way line very little interms of changing the gem.

Toshney injured again lol.

He must be up there as one of our worst ever signings/players.

Zero natural ability (that i can see),constantly injured with a variety of injuries and a bombscare when he does play both in terms of poor defending and picking up red cards.

He has another 2 years left of his deal too 😞🔫

p.s. heard good reports about Brett Long also.Maybe a better option than Zwick?
 

 

28/4/2017 5:55 pm  #211


Re: Development League 2016/2017 Season

The Devs drew 1 each with St.Johnstone today in their final 'home' match of the season.

Jordan Garden notched an equaliser.

Final game is on Monday away to Partick.

 

28/4/2017 5:57 pm  #212


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Tek wrote:

The Devs drew 1 each with St.Johnstone today in their final 'home' match of the season.

Jordan Garden notched an equaliser.

Final game is on Monday away to Partick.

 
Was gonna go today, remembered about 4 o'clock, idiot.

 

02/5/2017 9:07 am  #213


Re: Development League 2016/2017 Season

Beat 4-2 from partick
Chalmers with both

Long, Ritchie (Allan 46), Hornby, B Smith, Reekie, Davidson, Chalmers, Dailly, Garden (Robb 72), Appere, Mcmeekin



 
 

02/5/2017 2:34 pm  #214


Re: Development League 2016/2017 Season

How long does Bowman stay in a job of results at this level continue to be piss poor?

 

02/5/2017 2:45 pm  #215


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Tek wrote:

How long does Bowman stay in a job of results at this level continue to be piss poor?

Would you be brave enough to tell Psycho he was getting punted?

​Nah, me neither.


Oooooohhhh yeeeeeaaaaaah!!
 

02/5/2017 2:52 pm  #216


Re: Development League 2016/2017 Season

I'd really like to see a reserve league brought back in so young lads can start playing against seasoned pros earlier.  Probably never going to happen now though.

Last edited by SlatefordArab (02/5/2017 2:52 pm)

 

02/5/2017 3:05 pm  #217


Re: Development League 2016/2017 Season

Results  have not been great , however it normally comes down to who has the most experienced team. The majority of games have seen UTD play very young teams. Last nights goalscorer Logan Chalmers is still 16. Its all about development of maybe 2 or 3 players a season through to the 1st team. Watching the development team this season only 2 or 3 have any realistic chance of making 1st team players. The shirt fillers are quite poor this year but a couple of excellent prospects to look out for.

 

02/5/2017 5:58 pm  #218


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Beharder wrote:

Results  have not been great , however it normally comes down to who has the most experienced team. The majority of games have seen UTD play very young teams..

We played 6 first teamers last week.

Ross County had NO overage players.

Our team is no younger than most.

Again i ask the question.How long does Bowman get before he starts getting some proper type of constructive analysis of performances and progress or lack thereof?

Seems to have a job where he is largely free of any type of judgement.Wish i had one of them.
 

 

02/5/2017 5:59 pm  #219


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Macho Man wrote:

Tek wrote:

How long does Bowman stay in a job of results at this level continue to be piss poor?

Would you be brave enough to tell Psycho he was getting punted?

​Nah, me neither.

If i owned the club i wouldn't need to.Because he would never have gotten the job in the first place.
 

 

02/5/2017 6:58 pm  #220


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Bowman was listed in saturdays programme as Development squad assisstant manager.

Who he assissting? I thought it was and had been his for some time?



 
 

02/5/2017 7:01 pm  #221


Re: Development League 2016/2017 Season

Dev league not really about winning trophies - although it never hurts

Are the players developing better than those around us, I don't know. Guess it would take somebody to check how many players have come through the teams around us...

I'd how many Ross county academy players have played say 10 games this season... Not a job for me though


If you can't say something nice, don't say anything at all.
 

02/5/2017 8:58 pm  #222


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Tek wrote:

Beharder wrote:

Results  have not been great , however it normally comes down to who has the most experienced team. The majority of games have seen UTD play very young teams..

We played 6 first teamers last week.

Ross County had NO overage players.

Our team is no younger than most.

Again i ask the question.How long does Bowman get before he starts getting some proper type of constructive analysis of performances and progress or lack thereof?

Seems to have a job where he is largely free of any type of judgement.Wish i had one of them.
 

It is worth noting that the results were no better under Campbell in the last few years.

People keep mourning the reserve league but if it did change back to that we would still be playing exactly the same team because Utd (and most other clubs) can't afford to keep a first team squad of 25-30 experienced pros half of whom who would then play in the reserves. Having a squad with around 20 experienced players and around 16 u20s is all clubs can afford these days. The development league does allow teams to play something like 5 overage players so its not as if its just all kids playing week in week out. Lets face it, whenever Donaldson et al play for the 20s they get shat on from a bunch of 17-18 year olds anyway. All a reserve league would do would encourage Celtic and SEVCO to buy even bigger squads of experienced players and hump us even more in reserve games.

Do agree that the piss poor performance of the u20s needs to be questioned though. All we seem to produce these days is a conveyor belt of walf-like laddies who are mentally weak and with an acceptance of defeat.
 

Last edited by lifesanocean (02/5/2017 9:02 pm)


Too much commotion
 

02/5/2017 9:16 pm  #223


Re: Development League 2016/2017 Season

I would agree that the majority of the development squad have little or no chance of making it. However as i said 2  Or 3 have a good chance that is the main purpose of the development squad.

 

02/5/2017 9:19 pm  #224


Re: Development League 2016/2017 Season

lifesanocean wrote:

Tek wrote:

Beharder wrote:

Results  have not been great , however it normally comes down to who has the most experienced team. The majority of games have seen UTD play very young teams..

We played 6 first teamers last week.

Ross County had NO overage players.

Our team is no younger than most.

Again i ask the question.How long does Bowman get before he starts getting some proper type of constructive analysis of performances and progress or lack thereof?

Seems to have a job where he is largely free of any type of judgement.Wish i had one of them.
 

It is worth noting that the results were no better under Campbell in the last few years.

People keep mourning the reserve league but if it did change back to that we would still be playing exactly the same team because Utd (and most other clubs) can't afford to keep a first team squad of 25-30 experienced pros half of whom who would then play in the reserves. Having a squad with around 20 experienced players and around 16 u20s is all clubs can afford these days. The development league does allow teams to play something like 5 overage players so its not as if its just all kids playing week in week out. Lets face it, whenever Donaldson et al play for the 20s they get shat on from a bunch of 17-18 year olds anyway. All a reserve league would do would encourage Celtic and SEVCO to buy even bigger squads of experienced players and hump us even more in reserve games.

Do agree that the piss poor performance of the u20s needs to be questioned though. All we seem to produce these days is a conveyor belt of walf-like laddies who are mentally weak and with an acceptance of defeat.
 

Lot of sense in that post LAO.

Regarding your last point, seems to me ever since it was deemed that kids football (and most sports) shouldn't be so competitive, the necessary competitive edge has disappeared from kids.  Not just at DUFC, not even just at football, but generally in life, maybe just coincidence.
 

 

02/5/2017 11:36 pm  #225


Re: Development League 2016/2017 Season

Tek wrote:

Beharder wrote:

Results  have not been great , however it normally comes down to who has the most experienced team. The majority of games have seen UTD play very young teams..

We played 6 first teamers last week.

Ross County had NO overage players.

Our team is no younger than most.

Again i ask the question.How long does Bowman get before he starts getting some proper type of constructive analysis of performances and progress or lack thereof?

Seems to have a job where he is largely free of any type of judgement.Wish i had one of them.
 

I've made the point on here before about performance management. There's none for managers so they keep doing what they are doing until they get the sack - what a system, no wonder we fail. In every walk of working life managers of all levels are subject to regular scrutiny and employees are routinely subject to appraisals. When we start doing PM, we will start improving and saving money (latter part should appeal to our chairman) 
 


Bring back the (real) "United Way" not the kiddy-on Martin version
 

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