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21/10/2016 8:57 pm  #26


Re: Scotty Fraser

Nae good really comes from slating players performance at a match but a lack effort or tenacity for me is another matter.

We need that from every player.

Watching someone pull out of 50-50s drives me nuts. Watching a midfielder stand off or even not closing down and just going through the motions drives me nuts.

He was far more aggressive versus Hibs after his chat with the manager and needs to bring this into his regular play.

Don't care how much he plays wi his hair or how he comes across on the zone if he can just add tenacity and aggression to his obvious qualities I will be happy and we might even do him a song.

It's now up to him. He knows what he needs to add to his game.

 

21/10/2016 9:43 pm  #27


Re: Scotty Fraser

Scott Fraser is what, 2 or 3 full seasons into a 15-year professional football career?
You don't suppose he could be developing do you?
 

 

21/10/2016 9:51 pm  #28


Re: Scotty Fraser

If we get promoted this season Fraser will be one of the main reasons we achieve that, he is an exceptional prospect that just needs to be a big more aggressive IMO.

His direct style is something we've not had since those two fannies left.

 

21/10/2016 9:58 pm  #29


Re: Scotty Fraser

smedDUm wrote:

Scott Fraser is what, 2 or 3 full seasons into a 15-year professional football career?
You don't suppose he could be developing do you?
 

 
My only issue with him has been effort and you can find that any level.

 

22/10/2016 5:28 am  #30


Re: Scotty Fraser

Ex Houston Arab wrote:

Fans are entitled to come and shout what they want.
Other fans are also entitled to question the mentality of someone that turns up to vent their anger at a 20year old with potential. Especially if they are unhappy he is inconsistent- we all know most young players are. I don't know what enjoyment these fans get from being in a perma-rage.
I prefer the look at the positives. He's a young lad that has came through our ranks. He shows great potential. If he develops into a top player, with support from the team and the supporters, that's pretty much one of the few positives a non OF team can get these days in the Scottish game.
That's what has me turning up each week. If I didn't find any positives in going, I'd struggle to justify the effort

There is a diffetance between inconsistent and mostly over a season and a bit pish.

Turning upto vent anger at a player? You make it sound like thats peoples sole intention when ealking through the gates ata gane... Far from it id say.

Anyway like i says hopefully thats him starting to do better and lets hope he can help get us back up come the seasons end.
 



 
 

22/10/2016 12:59 pm  #31


Re: Scotty Fraser

bowers wrote:

Ex Houston Arab wrote:

Fans are entitled to come and shout what they want.
Other fans are also entitled to question the mentality of someone that turns up to vent their anger at a 20year old with potential. Especially if they are unhappy he is inconsistent- we all know most young players are. I don't know what enjoyment these fans get from being in a perma-rage.
I prefer the look at the positives. He's a young lad that has came through our ranks. He shows great potential. If he develops into a top player, with support from the team and the supporters, that's pretty much one of the few positives a non OF team can get these days in the Scottish game.
That's what has me turning up each week. If I didn't find any positives in going, I'd struggle to justify the effort

There is a diffetance between inconsistent and mostly over a season and a bit pish.

Turning upto vent anger at a player? You make it sound like thats peoples sole intention when ealking through the gates ata gane... Far from it id say.

Anyway like i says hopefully thats him starting to do better and lets hope he can help get us back up come the seasons end.
 

I think you're being a bit harsh there.  I doubt scouts from a bunch of championship clubs have been alerted by 2 decent performances on the back of a season and a half of pish. He has shown ability but is inconsistent.
A lot of the boys I hear at games only complain, hardly even cheer at goals. I think they need to realign their expectations with the reality we are in. That's the main point of my post.
Like you say, performances are improving. Hopefully the slow start to the season was exactly that and we are back up at seasons end.

 

22/10/2016 4:28 pm  #32


Re: Scotty Fraser

Ex Houston Arab wrote:

bowers wrote:

Ex Houston Arab wrote:

Fans are entitled to come and shout what they want.
Other fans are also entitled to question the mentality of someone that turns up to vent their anger at a 20year old with potential. Especially if they are unhappy he is inconsistent- we all know most young players are. I don't know what enjoyment these fans get from being in a perma-rage.
I prefer the look at the positives. He's a young lad that has came through our ranks. He shows great potential. If he develops into a top player, with support from the team and the supporters, that's pretty much one of the few positives a non OF team can get these days in the Scottish game.
That's what has me turning up each week. If I didn't find any positives in going, I'd struggle to justify the effort

There is a diffetance between inconsistent and mostly over a season and a bit pish.

Turning upto vent anger at a player? You make it sound like thats peoples sole intention when ealking through the gates ata gane... Far from it id say.

Anyway like i says hopefully thats him starting to do better and lets hope he can help get us back up come the seasons end.
 

I think you're being a bit harsh there.  I doubt scouts from a bunch of championship clubs have been alerted by 2 decent performances on the back of a season and a half of pish. He has shown ability but is inconsistent.
A lot of the boys I hear at games only complain, hardly even cheer at goals. I think they need to realign their expectations with the reality we are in. That's the main point of my post.
Like you say, performances are improving. Hopefully the slow start to the season was exactly that and we are back up at seasons end.

 

Its all about opinions..

Maybe you should move seats doesnt sound the best area you are in.



 
 

22/10/2016 5:03 pm  #33


Re: Scotty Fraser

when he runs inside and takes players on he looks good

 

22/10/2016 7:04 pm  #34


Re: Scotty Fraser

Thought he was very good today dangerous every time he got on it, the boys ability is class at times, very weird though that he's been our best player last 3 games playing back in centre midfield and McKinnon plays him wide right today? Thought he still done well out wide but seriously missed his running power with the ball in the middle! Anyhoo another win and upto 2nd! happy weekend arabs!

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22/10/2016 7:22 pm  #35


Re: Scotty Fraser

Fraser played well and was stifled from doing better by bad officials. Andreu has a great eye for linking up with him and saw flashes of a great understanding between them.

I'd like to see more of Cammy Fraser too as these 3 have imagination and a creative understanding. Sometimes the attacks through the wingbacks had a hesitation that allowed a breakdown in attack.

Andreu was marked by a cluster of 3 quite a lot of the time but we can use that against teams if we have attacking interplay in numbers releasing the ball that wee bit quicker on the charge.

Tope was obviously planned to be a main creator but looked like he put his boots on the wrong feet today.  Beat his self mair than the opposition.

 

22/10/2016 7:27 pm  #36


Re: Scotty Fraser

Arabnophobia wrote:

I'd like to see more of Cammy Fraser too.

I know what you meant 
 

 

22/10/2016 7:29 pm  #37


Re: Scotty Fraser

Arabnophobia wrote:

I'd like to see more of Cammy Fraser too

 
He retired years ago Mr Phobia.

 

22/10/2016 7:40 pm  #38


Re: Scotty Fraser

Foo Kin Twat wrote:

Arabnophobia wrote:

I'd like to see more of Cammy Fraser too.

I know what you meant 
 

Oops... Smith bud. 😉

Had to drive for a change and rattled 7 Guiness so far on home arrival.

Nae excuse though. Better hud back on posting later on as im aff to the shop for carryoot number 2. 🎠😄🔋🍺
 

 

22/10/2016 7:46 pm  #39


Re: Scotty Fraser

Tek wrote:

Arabnophobia wrote:

I'd like to see more of Cammy Fraser too

 
He retired years ago Mr Phobia.

 

😄 Good to see yer no giving me a break lads.

My facts are fiction and points aff track but a happier Arab you will not find tonight.

✊🎆🎉📯🎯🐙🐪🐪🐪

 

22/10/2016 7:48 pm  #40


Re: Scotty Fraser

Octopus was a typo, think I better sign oot!

 

22/10/2016 8:16 pm  #41


Re: Scotty Fraser

shedboy wrote:

I loved Cammy Fraser and Bobby Geddes 

Funny how dees look like dees eh.....


 

 

15/6/2017 10:48 pm  #42


Re: Scotty Fraser

Hearing a whisper he's asked to be put up for transfer.

Could (of course) be shite.

 

16/6/2017 4:22 am  #43


Re: Scotty Fraser

I would not shed a tear if he left,

One footed,
Lazy,
Greedy,
Part of the side who took us down,
Part of the side who kept us down,


Five reasons why he should be punted and not on his request.

 

16/6/2017 7:52 am  #44


Re: Scotty Fraser

From what I have been told today, he has definately asked to leave.


I live my life with no remorse or regret!..one life no re-hearsal!!.....lets get naked!!
 

16/6/2017 8:52 am  #45


Re: Scotty Fraser

Would be a excellent player for us if played in the right position

 

16/6/2017 9:03 am  #46


Re: Scotty Fraser

SuperMario wrote:

Would be a excellent player for us if played in the right position

This 100% fir me, surely ti f*** RM will play him central this season and build aroond um.
 

     Thread Starter
 

16/6/2017 9:25 am  #47


Re: Scotty Fraser

Tell him to play his way to a transfer. He hardly had a brilliant season last year. If he wants to leave and join a team at a decent level - bloody knuckle down and attract the scouts !!
 

 

16/6/2017 9:37 am  #48


Re: Scotty Fraser

If a club put in a good offer for him (circa £400-600k) I would happily let him go, money could then be spent on bringing in extra strikers/wingers etc.

 

16/6/2017 9:41 am  #49


Re: Scotty Fraser

Rocky Raccoon wrote:

I would not shed a tear if he left,

One footed,
Lazy,
Greedy,
Part of the side who took us down,
Part of the side who kept us down,


Five reasons why he should be punted and not on his request.

6th reason - gets booed when he scores a goal.
 

 

16/6/2017 9:48 am  #50


Re: Scotty Fraser

We need him to stay and be our Andreu next season. He has the vision and can play the pass that picks the lock. 
We don't have anyone other than him that can do this. 
If he leaves, I worry about our creativity. 

 

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