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I take it he is offski??? I know he was offered a new contract but after witnessing one of the most couldnt give a fuk performances in my lifetime from an idividual on Saturday, I'm guessing its bye bye.
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dinnae get the fuss over Butcher by some of our support. He's ok.
I suppose you have to put trust in whether of not Jackie brings in some one better.
Sure he's got his scouts out as we speak.
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huntedbyafreak wrote:
dinnae get the fuss over Butcher by some of our support. He's ok.
I suppose you have to put trust in whether of not Jackie brings in some one better.
Sure he's got his scouts out as we speak.
Agree, ok nothing more, would rather see the youngsters with actual potential fill that role if nothing better available comes in.
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Butcher is better than Paton though
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He had a great few games when he was first moved into midfield. Sliding tackles in the opposition box etc.
He's been mostly anonymous since.
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Flattered to deceive
When he first came into midfield he was doing something novel ....... aggressive tackling
but the novelty has worn off as has his performance level, if he stays well and good if not we move on
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doontheroadarab wrote:
Flattered to deceive
When he first came into midfield he was doing something novel ....... aggressive tackling
but the novelty has worn off as has his performance level, if he stays well and good if not we move on
Agree with that.
Looked tenacious and hungry when he first got moved into midfield.
Has lost that short lived zip and fire he showed.
If he moves on so be it.
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Tek wrote:
doontheroadarab wrote:
Flattered to deceive
When he first came into midfield he was doing something novel ....... aggressive tackling
but the novelty has worn off as has his performance level, if he stays well and good if not we move onAgree with that.
Looked tenacious and hungry when he first got moved into midfield.
Has lost that short lived zip and fire he showed.
If he moves on so be it.
Everyone has lost their zip and fire it seems unfortunately.
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blackandtangerine wrote:
Tek wrote:
doontheroadarab wrote:
Flattered to deceive
When he first came into midfield he was doing something novel ....... aggressive tackling
but the novelty has worn off as has his performance level, if he stays well and good if not we move onAgree with that.
Looked tenacious and hungry when he first got moved into midfield.
Has lost that short lived zip and fire he showed.
If he moves on so be it.
Everyone has lost their zip and fire it seems unfortunately.
It seems its started from the top of the tree to the bottom
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Signing for Burton Albion.
Can't say I'm bothered tbh
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huntedbyafreak wrote:
Signing for Burton Albion.
Can't say I'm bothered tbh
I dont think him leaving is going to leave any kind of gap to be honest. i would have liked to have seen him kept but not a great loss.
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With Souttar performing well in midfield at end of season I think that it made Butchers role redundant. Reckon it'll be Souttar and Rankin/Paton for next season. Unless Souttar is sold.
Which will go down well
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huntedbyafreak wrote:
With Souttar performing well in midfield at end of season I think that it made Butchers role redundant. Reckon it'll be Souttar and Rankin/Paton for next season. Unless Souttar is sold.
Which will go down well
I think we will sell either souttar or ciftci this summer.
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He picked up far too many bookings.
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bowers wrote:
huntedbyafreak wrote:
With Souttar performing well in midfield at end of season I think that it made Butchers role redundant. Reckon it'll be Souttar and Rankin/Paton for next season. Unless Souttar is sold.
Which will go down wellI think we will sell either souttar or ciftci this summer.
Probably
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Jimmy Flloyd their manager?
I watched a documentary on him being their and their facilities are amazing - do they not get to use that St Georges Park of the English FA?
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bowers wrote:
huntedbyafreak wrote:
Signing for Burton Albion.
Can't say I'm bothered tbhI dont think him leaving is going to leave any kind of gap to be honest. i would have liked to have seen him kept but not a great loss.
Like yerself I liked his determination and fight when on form but won't miss him as he blew hot and cold and I seriously believe we can have better players than him in midfield and defence.
Wasn't a sellable asset as his qualities are easy to find in the UK.
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Good luck to the lad.
I liked his attitude.i would have liked him to stay but perhaps as others have said the emergence of Soapy in DCM has negated the need to keep Butcher.Particulary as we also have Scott Fraser returning to Tannadice.
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Tek wrote:
Good luck to the lad.
I liked his attitude.i would have liked him to stay but perhaps as others have said the emergence of Soapy in DCM has negated the need to keep Butcher.Particulary as we also have Scott Fraser returning to Tannadice.
His attitude was over appreciated due to a lack of bite in the team.
Every player should match that quality regardless off their position.
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Arabnophobia wrote:
Tek wrote:
Good luck to the lad.
I liked his attitude.i would have liked him to stay but perhaps as others have said the emergence of Soapy in DCM has negated the need to keep Butcher.Particulary as we also have Scott Fraser returning to Tannadice.
His attitude was over appreciated due to a lack of bite in the team.
Every player should match that quality regardless off their position.
Some players just don't have that agressive streak in their make-up though mate and you can't coach that.
Him flying intae 50/50's with Goodwin and Scott Brown and winning made him stand out as a type of young player we seldom have imo i'e' one who can take care of himself and has a nasty streak.
But good luck to him.McNamara never gave him much of a chance and even when he did i felt Butcher was often the fall guy (benched after playing well or subbed before others more worthy of the subbing).
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really liked butchers attitude and championed him on here for the midfield role...but watched him closely for a spell due to bigging him up and if truth be told he didn't really have it tactcally and awareness...alright being aggressive but he his reading of the game wasn't the best...possibly with the postion he was playing wasn't something he was used to...Souttar has a fae superior football brain to play that role imho
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I liked Butcher, but as SV states, he was sometimes stranded in areas of the park he shouldn't have been, exposing others in the process.
Nobody had an outstanding season, though.
Arabnophobia wrote:
His attitude was over appreciated due to a lack of bite in the team.
Every player should match that quality regardless off their position.
Ciftci allegedly provides the bite.
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stobievulture wrote:
really liked butchers attitude and championed him on here for the midfield role...but watched him closely for a spell due to bigging him up and if truth be told he didn't really have it tactcally and awareness...alright being aggressive but he his reading of the game wasn't the best...possibly with the postion he was playing wasn't something he was used to...Souttar has a fae superior football brain to play that role imho
Couldn't work out if he was meant to be one of the 2, as expected, but was indisciplined, or Jackie was playing 4141 only when Butch was playing.
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PatReilly wrote:
I liked Butcher, but as SV states, he was sometimes stranded in areas of the park he shouldn't have been, exposing others in the process.
Nobody had an outstanding season, though.
Arabnophobia wrote:
His attitude was over appreciated due to a lack of bite in the team.
Every player should match that quality regardless off their position.
Ciftci allegedly provides the bite.