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Arabdownsouth wrote:
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If Goodwin wanted to win the game his numerous changes made sure that wasn't going to happen.
Among many negatives I noticed Sibbald taking a corner out of Eskeson's hands and then floating in an easy catch for their keeper.
Camara, wtf has gone wrong with the boy. Sevelj just another shading off of form too.
Very disappointing not to capitalise on our dominance at 1-0
Goodwin has gone wrong with him mate, never been the same player since his comments in the press after he scored that goal.
Yeah, remind me what happened and what was said?
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Goodwin’s a moron for not giving Eskesen more of a chance, he’s exactly the type of creative midfielder we’ve lacked in games this season, especially at home. He showed he had something in those Falkirk games in February/March, scoring twice, and then never played again for about 3 months. Obviously punishment for not being able to play like a ball-winning holding midfielder.
I’d like to see more of him next season, but no doubt he’ll be punted by Jim The Tim, he has no place for flair or technical ability within his particular brand of terrorist-ball.
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redford_must_score wrote:
Arabdownsouth wrote:
redford_must_score wrote:
If Goodwin wanted to win the game his numerous changes made sure that wasn't going to happen.
Among many negatives I noticed Sibbald taking a corner out of Eskeson's hands and then floating in an easy catch for their keeper.
Camara, wtf has gone wrong with the boy. Sevelj just another shading off of form too.
Very disappointing not to capitalise on our dominance at 1-0
Goodwin has gone wrong with him mate, never been the same player since his comments in the press after he scored that goal.
Yeah, remind me what happened and what was said?
1-0 up at home to Ayr in the last 32 of the Scottish cup. There’s only a few minutes left. Jim tells Pan Cam to sit in tight to keep the lead as we break up the pitch. Pan Cam charges through the middle and fires in a belter from 20 yards to win 2-0. Jim had a go at him for not sitting in defensively. He laughed it off as a joke later on but we all know it wasn’t.
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RogerTheAlien wrote:
redford_must_score wrote:
Arabdownsouth wrote:
Goodwin has gone wrong with him mate, never been the same player since his comments in the press after he scored that goal.
Yeah, remind me what happened and what was said?
1-0 up at home to Ayr in the last 32 of the Scottish cup. There’s only a few minutes left. Jim tells Pan Cam to sit in tight to keep the lead as we break up the pitch. Pan Cam charges through the middle and fires in a belter from 20 yards to win 2-0. Jim had a go at him for not sitting in defensively. He laughed it off as a joke later on but we all know it wasn’t.
Cheers Roger.
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JerryDungle wrote:
Goodwin’s a moron for not giving Eskesen more of a chance, he’s exactly the type of creative midfielder we’ve lacked in games this season, especially at home. He showed he had something in those Falkirk games in February/March, scoring twice, and then never played again for about 3 months. Obviously punishment for not being able to play like a ball-winning holding midfielder.
I’d like to see more of him next season, but no doubt he’ll be punted by Jim The Tim, he has no place for flair or technical ability within his particular brand of terrorist-ball.
I honestly believe that Goodwin is a shocking man manager and a very poor tactician. The amount of players that have been outcast under him is astonishing and I would not be surprised at all to find out that they have been treated that way due to actually calling out his faults. I'll be getting the Champers out when hes gone.
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Totally poor today again, how we even scored a goal today i don’t know.
Dumb and dumber combining to actually do something right for once, then back to crap for the rest of the game. The amount of times we couldn’t make it out of our own half was laughable.
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United23 wrote:
Totally poor today again, how we even scored a goal today i don’t know.
Dumb and dumber combining to actually do something right for once, then back to crap for the rest of the game. The amount of times we couldn’t make it out of our own half was laughable.
Watters set up a chance for Zac and Zac took it really well.
Surely there's better things to be moaning about than that United23?
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No player ratings for me today as i never seen the game.
How did the young boy at Left back do?
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redford_must_score wrote:
Watters set up a chance for Zac and Zac took it really well.
Surely there's better things to be moaning about than that United23?
Listen, maybe i’m complaining unrightfully but to me it just seemed like a hoof ball effort from Watters into Zac who did take it well but has skied so many other chances or failed to hit the target.
I’m glad they scored, and will admit i thought it was good play but we can’t sit here and avoid the fact that they were both crap otherwise and have been for a while and that is what i’m actually bothered about. Zac still has potential as he may just need more experience, Watters clearly doesn’t. These are our main attacking outlets, and they haven’t been good enough.
Maybe i’m being harsh on Zac but most of the good stuff he was doing in games (not just scoring goals) was seen months ago. I do appreciate the goals he has tallied up even saying that though.
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Tek wrote:
No player ratings for me today as i never seen the game.
How did the young boy at Left back do?
Young lad played well, looked confident and at ease throughout the game.
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From the highlights, Richards showed again why he's not the answer.
Ross Graham at their goal, Jesus fuck, you're 6 ft plus, a big strapping laddie and you do the playground thing of turning you back on a shot, nobody likes a ball in the pus, but your job is to take a ball in the pus if it mean you stop a goal.
I'd even accept that if it leads to a pen as the ball comes off your arm/hand whatever them deem it is this week that there's an element of misfortune in it, but you've at least faced up the ball.
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From the highlights, Richards showed again why he's not the answer.
Ross Graham at their goal, Jesus fuck, you're 6 ft plus, a big strapping laddie and you do the playground thing of turning you back on a shot, nobody likes a ball in the pus, but your job is to take a ball in the pus if it mean you stop a goal.
I'd even accept that if it leads to a pen as the ball comes off your arm/hand whatever them deem it is this week that there's an element of misfortune in it, but you've at least faced up the ball.
Agreed. That was probably the worst keeper error I have seen this season. An absolutely terrible attempt at a save. Again from the highlights he seemed to make a few decent saves, but if you have that abomination in you then you'll do it again and again.
Graham turning his back is worse in my opinion. You just can't be doing that if you consider yourself a professional football player who plays in defence. Even worse if you are supposed to be the leader on the pitch. It's not been a great season for Ross. He needs to go away and think about things. I think he need to tell Jim that he doesn't want the armband and that he needs to focus on his own game. He's a good player so we give him time and he can come back better next season. He should have been pushing for a Scotland berth (given we are not blessed with any world beaters in that position), but he's been nowhere near that this season.
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United23 wrote:
redford_must_score wrote:
Watters set up a chance for Zac and Zac took it really well.
Surely there's better things to be moaning about than that United23?Listen, maybe i’m complaining unrightfully but to me it just seemed like a hoof ball effort from Watters into Zac who did take it well but has skied so many other chances or failed to hit the target.
I’m glad they scored, and will admit i thought it was good play but we can’t sit here and avoid the fact that they were both crap otherwise and have been for a while and that is what i’m actually bothered about. Zac still has potential as he may just need more experience, Watters clearly doesn’t. These are our main attacking outlets, and they haven’t been good enough.
Maybe i’m being harsh on Zac but most of the good stuff he was doing in games (not just scoring goals) was seen months ago. I do appreciate the goals he has tallied up even saying that though.
I get what you're saying but Zac isn't missing clear cut chances is he? He's missing half chances.
He's missing a team around him that plays actual joined up football and creates openings for him.
A decent strike partner and a Dolcek/Eskeson type to play him in behind and he will score. We've seen what he can do, he's not become rubbish overnight it's just the way we play is not helping him one bit.
(Not sure if Watters saw him for the goal yesterday but credit where it's due at least he put the ball into a dangerous area)
Btw I hope Goodwin realises there will be an almighty meltdown if we sign him.
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David_Blunkett wrote:
From the highlights, Richards showed again why he's not the answer.
Ross Graham at their goal, Jesus fuck, you're 6 ft plus, a big strapping laddie and you do the playground thing of turning you back on a shot, nobody likes a ball in the pus, but your job is to take a ball in the pus if it mean you stop a goal.
I'd even accept that if it leads to a pen as the ball comes off your arm/hand whatever them deem it is this week that there's an element of misfortune in it, but you've at least faced up the ball.
Agree with this and Finn's comments above.
The drop off from Ross is a real concern.
But as a defender *bravery is one of the first requirements.
And retreating as an opposition player moves in for a shot isn't acceptable you have to go out and put your body on the line to prevent it.
*see Gallagher and Holt. Watch the videos Ross.
Edit to add. There was one St Mirren move yesterday at 1-1 where the ball was played up to a St Mirren attacker on the right wing.
As he headed towards the bye line all our defenders were retreating towards the goal line leaving 2 St Mirren players unmarked on the edge of the box.
That can't happen and luckily the initial pass was flagged offside.
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A 'meh' performance to complete a 'meh' season.
Performance was representative of the majority of others. Brains farts, poor goalkeeping and a lack of attacking in the box.
How has it taken until the last game of the season, with nothing on the line for either team for the lad gilliligan to get on the pitch.
He looked very much at home on the pitch.
Maybe jim is too risk adverse
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Finn Seemann wrote:
David_Blunkett wrote:
From the highlights, Richards showed again why he's not the answer.
Ross Graham at their goal, Jesus fuck, you're 6 ft plus, a big strapping laddie and you do the playground thing of turning you back on a shot, nobody likes a ball in the pus, but your job is to take a ball in the pus if it mean you stop a goal.
I'd even accept that if it leads to a pen as the ball comes off your arm/hand whatever them deem it is this week that there's an element of misfortune in it, but you've at least faced up the ball.Agreed. That was probably the worst keeper error I have seen this season. An absolutely terrible attempt at a save. Again from the highlights he seemed to make a few decent saves, but if you have that abomination in you then you'll do it again and again.
Graham turning his back is worse in my opinion. You just can't be doing that if you consider yourself a professional football player who plays in defence. Even worse if you are supposed to be the leader on the pitch. It's not been a great season for Ross. He needs to go away and think about things. I think he need to tell Jim that he doesn't want the armband and that he needs to focus on his own game. He's a good player so we give him time and he can come back better next season. He should have been pushing for a Scotland berth (given we are not blessed with any world beaters in that position), but he's been nowhere near that this season.
Graham moved out of the way of one the other week too which ended up in the net,can't remember which game now due to apathy
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redford_must_score wrote:
[I get what you're saying but Zac isn't missing clear cut chances is he? He's missing half chances.
He's missing a team around him that plays actual joined up football and creates openings for him.
A decent strike partner and a Dolcek/Eskeson type to play him in behind and he will score. We've seen what he can do, he's not become rubbish overnight it's just the way we play is not helping him one bit.
(Not sure if Watters saw him for the goal yesterday but credit where it's due at least he put the ball into a dangerous area)
Btw I hope Goodwin realises there will be an almighty meltdown if we sign him.
I know, I can’t imagine he would go back in for him it would be surprising if he did. There is no sort of logic he could ever use to explain the resigning of Watters.
I do agree about Zac getting a lack of Service and he also does have to drop into other areas of the pitch often, I just feel like he doesn’t have the same technical ability as he did months ago and I have no explanation. He used to create chances out of nothing by dribbling by players and making good passes as well, I don’t think that part of his game is fully gone it’s just frustrating to see one of our only technically good players not use that ability.
If the teammates and the tactics improve like you are saying then I do believe he will be fantastic again, we just need to hope the teammates and the tactics do improve.
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United23 wrote:
redford_must_score wrote:
[I get what you're saying but Zac isn't missing clear cut chances is he? He's missing half chances.
He's missing a team around him that plays actual joined up football and creates openings for him.
A decent strike partner and a Dolcek/Eskeson type to play him in behind and he will score. We've seen what he can do, he's not become rubbish overnight it's just the way we play is not helping him one bit.
(Not sure if Watters saw him for the goal yesterday but credit where it's due at least he put the ball into a dangerous area)
Btw I hope Goodwin realises there will be an almighty meltdown if we sign him.I know, I can’t imagine he would go back in for him it would be surprising if he did. There is no sort of logic he could ever use to explain the resigning of Watters.
I do agree about Zac getting a lack of Service and he also does have to drop into other areas of the pitch often, I just feel like he doesn’t have the same technical ability as he did months ago and I have no explanation. He used to create chances out of nothing by dribbling by players and making good passes as well, I don’t think that part of his game is fully gone it’s just frustrating to see one of our only technically good players not use that ability.
If the teammates and the tactics improve like you are saying then I do believe he will be fantastic again, we just need to hope the teammates and the tactics do improve.
Agree about his dribbling, sometimes he's looked clumsy recently and his body language looks like he's saying this sh1te is not what I signed up for, I want my mate Dolcek back.
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redford_must_score wrote:
[Agree about his dribbling, sometimes he's looked clumsy recently and his body language looks like he's saying this sh1te is not what I signed up for, I want my mate Dolcek back.
We all want Dolcek back, where did the Ivan in August go😢
I would actually like to keep Dolcek I still think there is a player there, can’t see it happening when he doesn’t even make the bench against St.Mirren though.
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United23 wrote:
redford_must_score wrote:
[Agree about his dribbling, sometimes he's looked clumsy recently and his body language looks like he's saying this sh1te is not what I signed up for, I want my mate Dolcek back.
We all want Dolcek back, where did the Ivan in August go😢
I would actually like to keep Dolcek I still think there is a player there, can’t see it happening when he doesn’t even make the bench against St.Mirren though.
I would keep Dolcek if we had a manager that wanted to play an attractive brand of football and could allow for a talented luxury player. There’s zero point keeping him under a terrorist who isn’t interested in wingers unless they play like a second full back.
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There’s zero point keeping him under a terrorist who isn’t interested in wingers unless they play like a second full back.
100%
For a Manager who likes to play 3 upfront (lol) two of them have to essentially be full backs.
Fatah was that exceptional a footballer that he could attack and press. Because he was the Duracell bunny, but also had undoubted ability.
Look at the other attacking players who dropped off big time because of his terrorism (i'm using this now btw).
Dolcek and Watters scored the same amount of goals for Utd, but Watters played far more games from November 2025 onwards. Dolcek only started one game from that point - Spartans at home (when he was very good).
Our Manager puts running and pressing over all else. Why?
Because he's a very cautious Manager who will never attempt to 'smash the glass ceiling'. This is just a job to him. And caution often wins the day.
P.S. i already have a bad feeling about Lachlan Rose in the respect of him just being a 'runner' (i truly hope i'm wrong).![]()
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One persons terrorist is another persons freedom fighter.
With the budget we go into the market with, in comparison to teams we would like to finish above like Aberdeen , Hearts & Hibs we are more likely to able to buy players to outrun the opposition than players who will outplay them