Unsurprisingly no sign of Conway11 after a good result.

Well, then. Who seen that result coming?

No failures today and a few excellent individual performances (Iovu, Vicko, Ferry, Agyei and Farrugia).

Credit to Goodwin, he got his tactics and subs spot-on today. As disappointing as this season has undoubtedly been that is 2 wins against Celtic and two score draws against Rangers. Don't tell me that this team can't play on their day.

The pitch is truly shocking and i cannot believe there has been zero progress regarding it considering it hasn't been played on in three weeks and we've had better weather. But, here's the thing, it probably helped us today as Celtic just couldn't get to grips with how the ball moved on that surface. I still think major questions have to be asked though, again, how can there be zero progress regarding it? 

Not to end on a negative though on what was a 'Beautiful Sunday'.

That was the first time we've beaten Martin O'Neill as Celtic Manager and we've been trying since pre-9/11. Twenty six years in the making that result. It was also (to answer Morphman above) the first time we've defeated Celtic in both Tannadice games since season 1990/91. Which was also the last time we defeated Celtic by a margin of more than one goal.

A very fine result indeed when you consider all of the above, and makes up slightly for last weekends bitter disappointment.

My player ratings -

AMB 7 - Was very good generally, but unfortunately blotted his copybook with that horrendous lapse in concentration when he let the ball slip through his hands and crash off the post. I think i'd look elsewhere for a No.1.

Iovu 9 - Immense. When he sticks to the basics of defending and uses his undoubted physicality wisely then he can be a very effective defender.

Graham 8 - A great response from the big man today. Showed character after last weeks horrorshow. Still, don't think he's Captain material, but perhaps he learned a lot about himself after last weekend, as a player and a man.

Keresztes 8 - As above, can be an effective player when he keeps it simple.

Stephenson 7 - Good display today. Good cross/pass for Ferry's goal.

Ferry 9 - Brilliant today, maybe his best ever performance in a United jersey. Some great deliveries and runs and capped off with his first United goal at long last. He should be aiming to get another before the seasons end. He has that in his locker i feel.

Agyei 9 - Outstanding. Just all over the pitch and never gave Celtic players a minute. Great finish for his 1st United goal. Used the pitch conditions well and just concentrated on hitting it low and hard. That goals been coming.

Sevelj 8 - Excellent display of leadership and energy.

Farrugia 8 - Thought he was very good today. Showed good control and good to see him have confidence and run at Celtic players. Not sure what his best position is, but the guy isn't a bad player.

Watters 6 - Ran about and put in a shift off the ball, but just ineffectual up front, as per.

Fatah 6 - Quiet afternoon by his high standards. Pitch didn't help him of course.

Subs -

Sapsford 5 - Barely touched the ball. 

Sibbald 5 - One wild sliced shot at the end, other than that just on to wind down the clock.

Camara 5 - As above

 

Said to my mate before the game that Utd didn’t water the pitch today deliberately as you could see the ball bobbling about during the warm ups.
Definitely helped us today.
Excellent result

Just a brilliant and unexpected result and a very good performance.

Think the general consensus is that Iovu, Agyei and Ferry were our top performers.  Arguably each of their best games for the club - certainly Iovu’s IMO.

Surely takes away any lingering fear of relegation playoffs and hopefully we just go out and have a go in all our remaining games.

To tell the truth, didna see that coming. Thought it was gonna be a cricket score.

We started the gehm well. But they soon had the majority of the possession.

We crowded the area roond oor box when they had a break, but we made it impossible for them to play thru 10 men, and it made them look pish.

Agyei's been a great signing. Good goal.

When we went 2 up, was worried that we would sit back, sit deep, and we'd blow it. We did to a small extent, but that was only coz oe their possession.

Ken'll get slated for this, but that was Watters best gehm, 2 attempts in the 1st half, (haeder and a chip) and a shot in the 2nd which led to our goal. But still don't rate him.

MOTM Ferry. Works his socks off. He's been solid since signing for us. Chuft fir him getting his 1st goal. He was elated, and so am I. (well half blooterd).

JerryDungle wrote:

Terrible home support. Hope the club are paying attention, that’s the future under Goodwin.

That’s rubbish. We never get great crowds when the OF are in town.

Thought our crowd looked ok.

We've always struggled to get punters through the door against Celtic (particularly in Sunday lunch time kick off's).

Look at our crowd in this 2-2 draw.



 

RogerTheAlien wrote:

Never expected that today but throughly enjoyed it. It means we’re safe that win as well so all in all a good days work. 3-0 wouldn’t have flattered us either. We were excellent all over the shop today but Celtic were absolutely stinking. It’s always good to shove it up those entitled bastards.

Agyei & Ferry were marvellous 9/10. Iovu & Sevelj 8/10. Luca, Graham & Amb 7.5/10.

 
Certainly more enjoyable to watch their screaming frothy mouthed support screaming at the chairman than it is watching their title party thats for sure.

Glad we could put the boot into that for them, now bring on the other half!

Its amazing what beating them can do for the soul 🤣

Arabdownsouth wrote:

Gemini says it's mathematically impossible for us to finish 11th now. Dunno if it's right or not but my brain is too old to figure it out 🤣

Perhaps we have a resident smart arse who can help? 😋

From what I can work out, we need 6pts to mathematically avoid 11th place. 

Without the 6pts though, it would require us to lose every game.  Livingston to gain no points post split and the lower placed team (out with Livi of course) to win each fixture during the split (draws where pts level) for all teams to overtake us.

Statistically improbable, Yes - but not quite impossible yet. 

Someone smarter may have different workings like, but I'm fairly sure this will be correct.

dyed in the wool wrote:

Arabdownsouth wrote:

Gemini says it's mathematically impossible for us to finish 11th now. Dunno if it's right or not but my brain is too old to figure it out 🤣

Perhaps we have a resident smart arse who can help? 😋

From what I can work out, we need 6pts to mathematically avoid 11th place. 

Without the 6pts though, it would require us to lose every game.  Livingston to gain no points post split and the lower placed team (out with Livi of course) to win each fixture during the split (draws where pts level) for all teams to overtake us.

Statistically improbable, Yes - but not quite impossible yet. 

Someone smarter may have different workings like, but I'm fairly sure this will be correct.

There's seven games left, and so 21 points. We can't finish 12th, but could still finish 11th. That would happen if we lost all seven games, Killie and St. Mirren won three games each in addition to beating us, Aberdeen won two additional games, and Dundee one. That's an unlikely scenario, but not impossible.

If we won two of our last seven then, for us to finish 11th, Killie and St. Mirren would both need to win 5 and draw 1 (or win 5 and overturn the hefty goal difference in our favour), Aberdeen would need to win 4 and draw 2, and Dundee win 4. I think that's possible.

Suppose the next two rounds play out as follows, with winners capitalised:

DUNDEE v Celtic
Hibs v KILLIE
ST. MIRREN v Aberdeen

ABERDEEN v Hibs
Celtic v ST. MIRREN
KILLIE v Dundee

That leaves Aberdeen needing 3 wins and 2 draws, Killie, and St. Mirren both needing 3 wins and 1 draw, and Dundee needing 3 wins.

Suppose they all beat us and Livi in the last five. Then from the other three games Aberdeen need 1 win and 2 draws, Killie and St. Mirren needing 1 win and 1 draw, and Dundee 1 win. And that's possible:

ABERDEEN v Dundee
Aberdeen v Killie
Aberdeen v St. Mirren
DUNDEE v Killie
Dundee v ST. MIRREN
KILLIE v St. Mirren

(Can you tell I'm putting off writing a report?)

Same club, board, staff, manager, coaches, players, formation and fans.  Football truly is a funny old game.

Monny wrote:

dyed in the wool wrote:

Arabdownsouth wrote:

Gemini says it's mathematically impossible for us to finish 11th now. Dunno if it's right or not but my brain is too old to figure it out 🤣

Perhaps we have a resident smart arse who can help? 😋

From what I can work out, we need 6pts to mathematically avoid 11th place. 

Without the 6pts though, it would require us to lose every game.  Livingston to gain no points post split and the lower placed team (out with Livi of course) to win each fixture during the split (draws where pts level) for all teams to overtake us.

Statistically improbable, Yes - but not quite impossible yet. 

Someone smarter may have different workings like, but I'm fairly sure this will be correct.

There's seven games left, and so 21 points. We can't finish 12th, but could still finish 11th. That would happen if we lost all seven games, Killie and St. Mirren won three games each in addition to beating us, Aberdeen won two additional games, and Dundee one. That's an unlikely scenario, but not impossible.

If we won two of our last seven then, for us to finish 11th, Killie and St. Mirren would both need to win 5 and draw 1 (or win 5 and overturn the hefty goal difference in our favour), Aberdeen would need to win 4 and draw 2, and Dundee win 4. I think that's possible.

Suppose the next two rounds play out as follows, with winners capitalised:

DUNDEE v Celtic
Hibs v KILLIE
ST. MIRREN v Aberdeen

ABERDEEN v Hibs
Celtic v ST. MIRREN
KILLIE v Dundee

That leaves Aberdeen needing 3 wins and 2 draws, Killie, and St. Mirren both needing 3 wins and 1 draw, and Dundee needing 3 wins.

Suppose they all beat us and Livi in the last five. Then from the other three games Aberdeen need 1 win and 2 draws, Killie and St. Mirren needing 1 win and 1 draw, and Dundee 1 win. And that's possible:

ABERDEEN v Dundee
Aberdeen v Killie
Aberdeen v St. Mirren
DUNDEE v Killie
Dundee v ST. MIRREN
KILLIE v St. Mirren

(Can you tell I'm putting off writing a report?)

Some effort this Monny  

A real armageddon scenario needed at this point then. Just can't see us not beating Livi at Tannadice at the very least, they are as poor of a team as I've seen in the league. That most recent game at the Tony Macaroni was 3 going on 7 or 8 and the draw at Tannadice we absolutely battered them after Esselink made a noel hunt of it to give them the lead.

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