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David_Blunkett wrote:
If Ronan Hale hasn't got a decently modest release clause then either....
a. He doesn't believe in his ability to attract a bigger club
b. His agent didn't have the foresight to put one in
c. He doesn't have an agent
Nobody is paying anywhere near that for a 12 league goals striker from Ross County
A relegated Ross County at that.
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what was the name of the young guy we got in to replace strain we he did his hammy last year?
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Beardy23 wrote:
what was the name of the young guy we got in to replace strain we he did his hammy last year?
Manny Adegboyega?
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Beardy23 wrote:
what was the name of the young guy we got in to replace strain we he did his hammy last year?
Luca
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A good bit to catch-up on today.
All the best to JVDS, genuinely.
Not the worst footballer who's worn a United shirt, but definitely one of the worst Striker's to have played for the club. A Striker's job is to score goals or create them. He did neither. I genuinely struggle to even remember him making an opposition Keeper make a save. If we have actually managed to get a fee for him, then that's very good business (and luck).
On the remarks from Goodwin today regards potential new recruits, i'm dismayed (but not surprised, sadly).
We heard a fortnight ago 'hope to have two new signings for the start of the league campaign'. Came and went, nothing. Then it changes to over the weekend 'hope to have at least one new recruit for Vienna'. That hasn't happened. Now the narrative is a far more unconfident 'hopeful' to have one or two in in the next fortnight.
We had the smallest squad in the league last season, Goodwin himself constantly bemoaned this. Surely, we aren't going with an even smaller squad?
We have got rid of 20 players and still rumours of another couple going. Signing only 13 new players would leave our squad far too threadbare.
For comparison we signed 13 last Summer but only let go of 19, and of course had a very small squad, with limited options in certain areas (LB, LW, Strikers).
I refuse to believe the playing budget hasn't been affected by the HMRC fiasco, or is Ogren just a penny pincher?
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redford_must_score wrote:
Beardy23 wrote:
what was the name of the young guy we got in to replace strain we he did his hammy last year?
Luca
correct!
wonder what's happened to him...
I think manny was a panic signing after Graham was ripped a new one by the ginger goblin, playing out of position at right centre back
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Beardy23 wrote:
redford_must_score wrote:
Beardy23 wrote:
what was the name of the young guy we got in to replace strain we he did his hammy last year?
Lucacorrect!
wonder what's happened to him...
I think manny was a panic signing after Graham was ripped a new one by the ginger goblin, playing out of position at right centre back
Luca will sign a new contract at Liverpool and go out on loan to an English Championship Club.
Good luck to the boy.
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Arabdownsouth wrote:
Tek wrote:
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5? Mental. Is that including some outgoings?I'm not sure it is, would take our signings up to 16.
Remember we signed 13 last Summer and it's been widely acknowledged we had the smallest squad (and have just let go of 20 if we are including VDS).
That including big earners like Middleton, Watt, Gallagher, Moult, Docherty etc.
I'd say 5 more is minimum we need for a strong squad that can actaully do well in all comps.
Agreed
Agree to some extent. Don’t know if 5 will happen. Last year we signed 13, 3 or 4 didn’t work out, Jort, Odiddy, Babunski. Reduce the inbound flops you increase squad size.
Emphasis on strong squad. I’m happy to see lesser number come in provided we bring in quality. Not to mention Academy guys coming through including SCH, Stirton.
Long hard season ahead inc hopefully cup run.
Imperative minimum though - additional striker + LWB
+ get rid of the permanent injury cloud that hovers over St. Andrews, be a help.
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Shakey Isles Arab wrote:
Agree to some extent. Don’t know if 5 will happen. Last year we signed 13, 3 or 4 didn’t work out, Jort, Odiddy, Babunski. Reduce the inbound flops you increase squad size.
Emphasis on strong squad. I’m happy to see lesser number come in provided we bring in quality. Not to mention Academy guys coming through including SCH, Stirton.
I get what you're saying Shakey, and i think we can all get on board with the 'quality over quantity' philosophy.
But that only works over a season if your back-up players are also of a good quality. Our whole bench recently has been Academy kids who Goodwin will never play currently (bar perhaps Owen Stirton).
Goodwin himself bemoaned us having the smallest squad last season.
We are again leaving ourselves so short in some areas of the squad.
For instance we just got rid of 6 Strikers (Dalby, Moult, Watt, Paton, VDS, MacLeod), we've signed 2.
We need more attacking players. We still have very little options there to mix things up or play a different way.
And the games are gonna come thick 'n' fast, starting NOW.
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Tek wrote:
Shakey Isles Arab wrote:
Agree to some extent. Don’t know if 5 will happen. Last year we signed 13, 3 or 4 didn’t work out, Jort, Odiddy, Babunski. Reduce the inbound flops you increase squad size.
Emphasis on strong squad. I’m happy to see lesser number come in provided we bring in quality. Not to mention Academy guys coming through including SCH, Stirton.I get what you're saying Shakey, and i think we can all get on board with the 'quality over quantity' philosophy.
But that only works over a season if your back-up players are also of a good quality. Our whole bench recently has been Academy kids who Goodwin will never play currently (bar perhaps Owen Stirton).
Goodwin himself bemoaned us having the smallest squad last season.
We are again leaving ourselves so short in some areas of the squad.
For instance we just got rid of 6 Strikers (Dalby, Moult, Watt, Paton, VDS, MacLeod), we've signed 2.
We need more attacking players. We still have very little options there to mix things up or play a different way.
And the games are gonna come thick 'n' fast, starting NOW.
Not disagreeing with you about our need for Strikers,but Watt and McLeod took no part in last season whatsoever and VDS and Paton may as well not have either as they contributed zero goals between them. Given we have Watters and Sapsford along with Stirton then one more would be sufficient I'd say,and would leave us more options than last season. Of course it remains to be seen if any of them can step up and fill Dalby’s boots. I'd like more cover at fullback and attacking midfield also.
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Arabdownsouth wrote:
Tek wrote:
Shakey Isles Arab wrote:
Agree to some extent. Don’t know if 5 will happen. Last year we signed 13, 3 or 4 didn’t work out, Jort, Odiddy, Babunski. Reduce the inbound flops you increase squad size.
Emphasis on strong squad. I’m happy to see lesser number come in provided we bring in quality. Not to mention Academy guys coming through including SCH, Stirton.I get what you're saying Shakey, and i think we can all get on board with the 'quality over quantity' philosophy.
But that only works over a season if your back-up players are also of a good quality. Our whole bench recently has been Academy kids who Goodwin will never play currently (bar perhaps Owen Stirton).
Goodwin himself bemoaned us having the smallest squad last season.
We are again leaving ourselves so short in some areas of the squad.
For instance we just got rid of 6 Strikers (Dalby, Moult, Watt, Paton, VDS, MacLeod), we've signed 2.
We need more attacking players. We still have very little options there to mix things up or play a different way.
And the games are gonna come thick 'n' fast, starting NOW.
Not disagreeing with you about our need for Strikers,but Watt and McLeod took no part in last season whatsoever and VDS and Paton may as well not have either as they contributed zero goals between them. Given we have Watters and Sapsford along with Stirton then one more would be sufficient I'd say,and would leave us more options than last season. Of course it remains to be seen if any of them can step up and fill Dalby’s boots. I'd like more cover at fullback and attacking midfield also.
My point was more we have got 6 Striker's off the wage bill. One of them a massive wage (for us), and two others we have received a (modest) fee for.
That should have (in theory) freed up a good bit of money to let us get in more options, which you agree yourself we need more of.
I wasn't talking about last season's options, i'm talking about attacking options for this season going forward.
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Tek wrote:
Arabdownsouth wrote:
Tek wrote:
I get what you're saying Shakey, and i think we can all get on board with the 'quality over quantity' philosophy.
But that only works over a season if your back-up players are also of a good quality. Our whole bench recently has been Academy kids who Goodwin will never play currently (bar perhaps Owen Stirton).
Goodwin himself bemoaned us having the smallest squad last season.
We are again leaving ourselves so short in some areas of the squad.
For instance we just got rid of 6 Strikers (Dalby, Moult, Watt, Paton, VDS, MacLeod), we've signed 2.
We need more attacking players. We still have very little options there to mix things up or play a different way.
And the games are gonna come thick 'n' fast, starting NOW.
Not disagreeing with you about our need for Strikers,but Watt and McLeod took no part in last season whatsoever and VDS and Paton may as well not have either as they contributed zero goals between them. Given we have Watters and Sapsford along with Stirton then one more would be sufficient I'd say,and would leave us more options than last season. Of course it remains to be seen if any of them can step up and fill Dalby’s boots. I'd like more cover at fullback and attacking midfield also.My point was more we have got 6 Striker's off the wage bill. One of them a massive wage (for us), and two others we have received a (modest) fee for.
That should have (in theory) freed up a good bit of money to let us get in more options, which you agree yourself we need more of.
I wasn't talking about last season's options, i'm talking about attacking options for this season going forward.
Yeah I get your point about wages,but of course I've no idea whatsoever how much the new recruits are on and how much wage budget is already used up. The tax bill won't help either,but I am in full agreement with you that we need more bodies in ASAP,but it's likely only 1 of them really needs to be a striker. Especially if we want Stirton to get his opportunity this season. I genuinely think we are still about half a dozen short,especially as we seem so injury prone. I guess we can only hope.
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Strain injury is apparently a fractured foot.
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Arabdownsouth wrote:
Strain out for 10 weeks too,so that'll no doubt be January. It's fucking ridiculous how many hamstring injuries we are continually picking up. Wtf is going on in training? 2 more faces before the window closes is nowhere near enough unless we plan to be playing in the fundesliga next season.
Strain injury is apparently a fractured foot.
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twa fractured feet and a hamstring?
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Rocky Raccoon wrote:
Strain injury is apparently a fractured foot.
That's not what I read yesterday
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Goodwin said in press conference that Strain’s injury was hamstring related
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Snacks94 wrote:
Goodwin said in press conference that Strain’s injury was hamstring related
Yup that's what I read
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Tell you what after Pappoe injury ahm gutted, absolutely gutted.
For the club for the lad himself.
We are totally hexxed.
5 in sounding very realistic Mr. O
Take Fuchs in a twinkle.
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Shakey Isles Arab wrote:
Tell you what after Pappoe injury ahm gutted, absolutely gutted.
For the club for the lad himself.
We are totally hexxed.
5 in sounding very realistic Mr. O
Take Fuchs in a twinkle.
It’s a sickener for the boy. He looks a real good player. If he is gonna be out long term, Fuchs is a good shout. If there is any hope of getting Stephenson back, we need to be battering Liverpool’s door down today to try and get an answer from them. We need him in for next Thursday.
If, as expected, Pappoe’s out for months, we need 2 centre midfielders, another winger, a striker and a left back to back up Ferry.
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Arabdownsouth wrote:
Strain out for 10 weeks too,so that'll no doubt be January. It's fucking ridiculous how many hamstring injuries we are continually picking up. Wtf is going on in training? 2 more faces before the window closes is nowhere near enough unless we plan to be playing in the fundesliga next season.
Strain got injured in the first few minutes of the Strasen game but played the rest of the game, clearly not his hamstring or he'd never have been able to play on.
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SlatefordArab wrote:
Arabdownsouth wrote:
Strain out for 10 weeks too,so that'll no doubt be January. It's fucking ridiculous how many hamstring injuries we are continually picking up. Wtf is going on in training? 2 more faces before the window closes is nowhere near enough unless we plan to be playing in the fundesliga next season.
Strain got injured in the first few minutes of the Strasen game but played the rest of the game, clearly not his hamstring or he'd never have been able to play on.
Played like he was injured to be fair 😂
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Dhanda close to signing for Dundee
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wardy1983 wrote:
Dhanda close to signing for Dundee
I wouldn’t be against us hijacking that move. We need more creativity.
If we want him, he’ll pick us over the fun every day of the week.
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wardy1983 wrote:
Dhanda close to signing for Dundee
I wouldn’t be against us hijacking that move. We need more creativity.
If we want him, he’ll pick us over the fun every day of the week.
Agree on all counts. Goodwin claims we are going to be much more possession based this year. If that is true he would be ideal. Just have a nagging doubt Dhanda and Babunski type players don’t fit into JG’s style of play.