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Re: Out of contract players in Summer - Who would you keep?
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I note you yourself didn't mention keeping Jack Newman incidentally.
I don't think thats unreasonable when both the OOC goalkeepers are U21, its likely to be a choice of one or the other.
I agree, but i'm not the one bemoaning letting go of Scottish caps.
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Re: Out of contract players in Summer - Who would you keep?
I wasn't necessarily saying keep every current or past U-international regardless, I was talking more about current U-internationals, the likes of Constable who's 17. Maybe my comment didn't portray much nuance in the reply but I think it's safe to assume that I wouldn't expect someone who had a cap 1/2/3 years ago to still be kept solely based on that merit.
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Re: Out of contract players in Summer - Who would you keep?
I wasn't necessarily saying keep every current or past U-international regardless, I was talking more about current U-internationals, the likes of Constable who's 17. Maybe my comment didn't portray much nuance in the reply but I think it's safe to assume that I wouldn't expect someone who had a cap 1/2/3 years ago to still be kept solely based on that merit.
Fair enough.
I don't think anyone would mind if young lads like Scotty Constable and Charlie Dewar are given new contracts.
It's more some of the older 'younger' players like Newman, Adams, O'Donnell, Fotheringham which we are probably more scrutinising tbh.
A few tough decisions to be made in that regard.
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Just because someone has a Scotland cap at U21 or younger doesn't mean they are necessarily good enough for us.
Lewis Fiorini has U21 caps and can't get a sniff for us.
I don't think that is what he is saying. If someone is currently getting age level caps it does mean that they have the potential to be top level players. Fiorini once had that potential and now can't get a game for Dundee United - two different things.
I'm just making a general point. Fiorini is only 22 btw. He's only been out the U21 set-up a year and yet can't get near our team.
I note you yourself didn't mention keeping Jack Newman incidentally.
Is Fiorini another example of the Academy system down south not working either. At 22 you need starts at the top level against real players. If he can't get that at United then he's going to need to drop down further. It is about mentality though. Stephenson for me has taken his chance and doesn't give 'I'm a Liverpool player' vibes.
Fair point on Newman. I suspect it probably is a straight decision between him and Adams - whether we need to make that yet probably depends on whether they can keep getting games on loan.
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Re: Out of contract players in Summer - Who would you keep?
Why would anyone want to release our U-Scotland internationals? 0 sense in that.
Why would anyone want to keep Kai Fotheringham or Miller?
Makes 0 sense that.
Miller Thomson I’d be keeping, he’s still young and has shown he has something. I thought he was excellent in the derby on first day of the season, even a few Funsters I know picked him out as the one that caught their eye for us that day. Then he makes a howling arse of that chance up in Dingwall and never really got another run in the team.
Kai I agree isn’t up to it at this level. He’s just not got the quick burst of acceleration needed to play as a winger here, a shame cause he’s not a terrible player at all, and his goal and assist record last season was impressive, but even then, he never fully passed the eye test for me. I’d have liked to have seen what he could do as a striker in a pairing, but we don’t really the luxury of being able to experiment at this stage, so I’d probably think it’s best he moves on. He’s a Falkirk boy I believe, I wonder if that’s maybe his next move.
I agree on Thomson - he needs to bulk up a bit for me and make himself a regular in the Falkirk team until the end of the season. On Kai, Falkirk have better players as we'll see next season. They picked up the boy Barney Stewart from the lower leagues (apparently we were offered him - he seems to be a potential Dalby in the making) and McGlynn is already a big fan and he's in the starting line up way ahead of expectation. Granted Stirton might be a better prospect, but do we miss out on those sorts of players due to looking first to our Academy?
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Re: Out of contract players in Summer - Who would you keep?
Newman is absolutely garbage if that helps the decision.
Too much commotion
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Newman is absolutely garbage if that helps the decision.
He was the man who couldn't get a game in front of Birighitti. Nothing else needs said.
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Re: Out of contract players in Summer - Who would you keep?
Out of contract -
1. Jack Newman - Bin
2. Ruairidh Adams - Keep*
3. Declan Gallagher - Keep
4. David Babunski - Bin
5. Glenn Middleton - Bin
6. Ross Docherty - bin
7. Lewis O'Donnell - Bin
8. Bryan Mwangi - Keep
9. Louis Moult - Bin
10. Kai Fotheringham - Bin
11. Rory MacLeod - Bin
12. Charlie Dewar - Keep
13. Tony Watt - Bin
14. Zeke Cameron - Bin
15. Allan Campbell - Bin
16. Scott Constable - Keep
17. Adam Carnwath - bin
Loan Players -
1) Sam Dalby - Keep
2) Luca Stephenson - Keep
3) Jack Walton - Keep
4) Emmanuel Adegboyega - Keep
5) Lewis Fiorini - Bin
6) Ruari Paton - Bin
Players still under contract -
1) Dave Richards
2) Ross Graham
3) Ryan Strain
4) Will Ferry
5) Vicko Sevelj
6) Sam Harding
7) Kristijan Trapanovski
8) Richard Odada - Bin
9) Craig Sibbald
10) Jort Van Der Sande - Bin
11) Owen Stirton
12) Meshack Ubochioma - Bin
13) Miller Thomson
Keep the rest still under contract I've not put a note on.
I'd re-sign Ruaridh Adams to a 2 year deal with an option to extend and see if there's a team in the Championship willing to play him this year to see how he does at a higher level then Kelty. Would be good to see us bring through our own goalie for a change. I remember Euan McLean in around 08 and Marc McCallum in 2015 getting a few games but both not good enough in the end.
The rest of the youth I've harshly judged on whether they get a game at their loan clubs in TEKs loan report. For me, most of our decent youth prospects in the past have managed to play consistently out on loan. May be harsh but I feel a premiership calibre player should be able to get a regular game at league 1 and below consistently even at a younger age.
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