Scored our goal from a winger putting a cross in then takes both the wingers off and loads up on the right hand side and central midfield with nothing down the left in front of Will so no attacking threat down that side.
What is the point of the Academy when not 1 player starting and only 1 used as a Substitute?
Big Ross and Miller only 2 to get game time from last 5 years.

A lot of valid point made by various posters on this thread.

VdS,what a waste a substitution and more frustrating as he gave us everything we knew he would but that wasn't what was required at that point of the match.

Fotheringham must be given an opportunity at Easter road, we are shot shy, just have a go FFS.

I agree also about the decision to bring off Middleton,  completely bizarre,  only people happy with that was both Mwell full backs.

Not a game we deserved to lose in my opinion however if you defend the way we did and don't have a shot when the chances are there, that the outcome I'm afraid.

First goal was Sunday league shit, outnumbered at the back on the free kick, it's the very basics. Young Mani looked very uncomfortable all night, Sunday will be a massive test for him.

Man for man marking on our half way line at our corners and some say the Jim is a very cautious manager, this is Russian roulette stuff. Get that in the bin especially when up against a speed machine like last night, complete bonkers and a disaster waiting to happen.

Thought Gallagher,Holt, Middleton and Big Sam done OK.

Would like to see some of the younger guys getting a chance, if not Fotheringham then give Stirton the last 10 minutes.

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Couldn't make it last night, but sounds quite similar to the cup game at theirs.  From the highlights it looked pretty even, but both their goals are avoidable.  You can't really legislate for Manny's error and young boys will make errors.  For me he won 3 points at St Mirren but lost 2 last night.  He is for me however one of our best players and one of the reasons we are in the right half of the league.

Sometimes you just can't rely on fighting spirit and that's when the flaws in the team come to the fore.  Missing Docherty, Sibbald and Graham is massive.  That coupled with our fairly toothless attack means that winning games is going to be tough at the moment.  We knew there was a lack of speed up top and that is definitely on Goodwin.  Pretty much every team in the league has speed up front bar us.  Players like Murray and Boyle can make it in Scotland due to their pace as opposed to any great footballing ability.  I'll cut Jim some slack as I think building from the back is more important to get right (which to be fair he has done) but his plans up top just don't work.  Pleased to see Dalby get another goal but there is currently too much resting on his shoulders.

United Arab Emarite wrote:

It's a long time since I was so cheesed off after a game.
We were the architects of our own downfall.
Gifting the opposition 3 points ain't clever.
3 points are going to be like hens' teeth in the weeks to come.
At this rate we could find ourselves embroiled at the bottom.
Yeah we've 4 players out but only 2 of them (Graham & Docherty) are 1st picks.
So where's this strong squad gone?
We have no punch thro the middle & don't get to the byeline enough.
Motherwell were there for the taking last night with their eyes on Hampden as well.
Adegboyega? I'm not so sure & neither is he. He sold the jerseys but should have been subed earlier. His yellow was so naive. Kids learning on loan here is maybe not the answer.
Sorry to sound so dismal, I'm an unabashed optimist but last night hurt a bit.
Last wee rant -
Where have all the Scotsmen gone? I would guess from both teams last night there were 6. Hibs had one on Sunday.



 

I would suggest that Sibbald is a first pick as well.
 

Babunski is absolutely miles off it, was listening to the dode fox podcast after the hibs game and Ronnie said he was outstanding- genuinely couldn’t believe, he’s been piss poor for a while

Really need Doch or Stephenson in beside sevelj, not seen anything from odada to suggest he’ll be in the first 11

How quickly things can change in football in a few short days!

Friday we were in a good spot, now 2 losses on the bounce and a tough away game to come and we're looking over our shoulders as other teams pick up points.

I'm not going to entirely wash my hands of him but I'm not convinced by VDS at all. Did well against Dundee but he's one of those players that you see quite a lot in modern football, technically decent, a bit of strength, but what position is he actually meant to play? He doesn't seem to be a  Centre forward, he's not an out and out winger or a 10 either.

He reminds me of Bodul, Van Der Velden, Appere, Keatings in recent years. You sort of see they have "something" about them but you just don't really know what it is or how to get the best out them. They appear in a variety of forward positions but only occasionally offer something.

Maybe I'm being harsh on appere, and sorry for the Darko Bodul PTSD!

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Stillliving wrote:

Last night has not changed my overall perception of this United team.
There is going to be an almighty scrap to avoid relegation with at least 6 maybe more teams involved, we are definitely one of those teams.

I can't argue with that but Wm Hill can, you can get as much as 11/8 for us finishing in the bottom six.
They actually have us to be 4th in the league.
Obviously they weren't there last night!

 

Big Manny was poor last night. Why he let the ball bounce for the second goal is beyond me. I would have had him subbed but there was no real replacement for him unless Jim changed the shape. Putting the two up front played into Motherwells hands as their back 3 were really solid especially Casey who was really good.

Motherwell tried the same free kick routine 2 mins before their first.
Didn’t come off, but we made sure to stand still and let them do it again.

United Arab Emarite wrote:

MockChop wrote:

Motherwell tried the same free kick routine 2 mins before their first.
Didn’t come off, but we made sure to stand still and let them do it again.

The two of them were perfectly flighted balls from Lennon Miller.
There's a feature about him on BBC Scotland, Scottish Football, very interesting story.
He looked very composed last night for someone just turned 18.
Looks like he's going to be very special.
Big game on Sunday v Phillipe's Phlops.
 

 
We're playing Hibs on Sunday