.... What !!???

- You put the ball in the back of the net.

But to go back to United's "style"  ...ffs !
We are in Scottish diddy division, we're no the team of 95/96 or 1983/84.
1984 was 40 years ago. History. We sound like Dees banging on about 1963 or England 1966.

So forget all the other shit and concentrate on quickly accurately getting the ball up the park into opposing penalty boxes and into the net. Don't get me wrong, nothing wrong with playing the way you're facing and backwards, nothing wrong with possesion so long as it's quick, accurate and attacking. By the same token, nothing wrong with the odd hoof up the park , or better still a precision long ball - gives the opposition something different to think about. Whereas modern football coaches keep the ball on the deck - fair enough, but not to the exclusion of all else.

We cannot afford to let opposition teams come to Tannadice put 10 men behind the ba and watch us fanny around. We either score first half or let paying fans see our team working their bollocks off trying - if we don't we give the opposition an extra man.

"Style"  ... ffs get a grip !

Last edited by Shakey Isles Arab (28/3/2024 7:24 am)

kdyteejay wrote:

Shakey Isles Arab wrote:

.... What !!???

- You put the ball in the back of the net.

But to go back to United's "style"  ...ffs !
We are in Scottish diddy division, we're no the team of 95/96 or 1983/84.
1984 was 40 years ago. History. We sound like Dees banging on about 1963 or England 1966.

So forget all the other shit and concentrate on quickly accurately getting the ball up the park into opposing penalty boxes and into the net. Don't get me wrong, nothing wrong with playing the way you're facing and backwards, nothing wrong with possesion so long as it's quick, accurate and attacking. By the same token, nothing wrong with the odd hoof up the park , or better still a precision long ball - gives the opposition something different to think about. Whereas modern football coaches keep the ball on the deck - fair enough, but not to the exclusion of all else.

We cannot afford to let opposition teams come to Tannadice put 10 men behind the ba and watch us fanny around. We either score first half or let paying fans see our team working their bollocks off trying - if we don't we give the opposition an extra man.

"Style"  ... ffs get a grip !

100% this.

Agree with the general gist of this.  I'd referred to 'style' in quotes.  What I mean is that if there is a discernible Goodwin tactic (which is a better word) it is keep possession at all costs.  It's the baseline Guardiola without any of the flair needed to actually breakdown teams and without the skill level to do the baseline well.  There is no other discernible tactic.  

Raith, Airdrieonians, Morton, Inverness, Queens Park, Thistle and even Dunfermline have discernible tactics when you watch them play.  Tactics that play to their strengths.  We don't.  That's on Goodwin.

I'd agree that if you are looking for style in the strictest sense you are probably not going to find that in Scottish football.  Ange was the last manager that played the game with any style.

Morphman wrote:

https://www.theguardian.com/football/2024/mar/23/artificial-intelligence-football-tactics-malmo?utm_source=pocket-newtab-en-gb

Might be of interest to some given the topic.
 

Interesting.  I didn't see the Brazilian boy score against England but the comments remind me of when Rooney burst on the scene at Everton.  That player didn't fit into 'possession football'.  He was a revelation but he was folded into the favoured style only to show his brilliance in the odd overhead kick or bustling run.  I think football has forgotten it is an entertainment product.  

Who was the last United player that you would happily pay the entry fee to see just him?  Probably Drunken for me and maybe Gauld.  And Gauld is a case in point - even he doesn't think Scottish football suits him.