Finn Seemann wrote:

I'm guessing this season is make or break for Glass.  He's 23 and needs to be showing he can be a permanent fixture in the first team squad.  I'm not sure he's going to make the step up to the Prem, but I thought that about Blair Spittal too and he'd walk into our team at the moment.  

Meekison and especially Mochrie have a couple of years to step up.  If it hadn't been for the Asghar insistence on putting any youngster who could trap a ball in the shop window then we wouldn't have seen these boys as early as we did.  As it happens, because of Asghar, we think they have been around for years.  Mochrie looks a player to me and for me has the physical attributes to make a decent career of it.  Meekison I'm not sure.  Glass for me has reached his level.

The simple reality is that despite the Academy bullshit bingo from Asghar, we haven't produced a real star who is going to make it big.  There appear to be no Armstrongs, Mackay Stevens, Robertsons or Gaulds waiting in the wings.  Maybe we just have to accept that the Spittal's of this world are as good as we are going to get and maybe we need to embrace them a little more than we do and not expect to see Gauld like wonder performances from the kids.

Good post. This is probably what I hate about that fat fucker the most, all the bluster about the academy but is too incompetent to sign the senior pro to bring the best out of Young players. Signing Levitt, Harkes pawlets kings etc etc when he should have been signing  Rankins and Patons
 

Hearing Walton is fine for tomorrow.

Macho Man wrote:

I've tried to see the best in Mochrie, Glass and Meekison, but there just seems to be something holding them back from being genuine first team players.  I think the next crop that are beginning to come through might have some exciting players, but I think the 3 mentioned above will all struggle to stay at this level and might even have to drop down a division to find their level.  Mochrie, Meekison and Glass have all been near the first team for a few years but none have really made me pay any real attention.

I'm not sure if it's been said before, but I get the impression they're all decent when in possession, but they don't appear to do that much when they don't have the ball.

Surely a job for the manager to sort out.

spine back, Gal, Doch and Moult

Glass retains his place

Queens in disaray think we will win this easy

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Bitterly disappointing afternoon and an alarming week given we've lost back to back games against League One opposition and shipped 6 goals.

Is it just a bad week or a sign of deeper problems that need surgery. I'd suggest the latter, but we will find out everything over the next month.

I hope the fans who were involved in the horrible accident after the game are ok, and make a full recovery.

That's the main thing.

Most worrying is our lauded defence has been unlocked 6 times in 2 games by league 1 opposition.- we need to take steps to address this so it doesnt become more that an blip.

Not pressing any panic buttons yet but there needs to be a reaction from the players.  We had a lot of chances but did not convert an conceded poor goals.

I dont know why but every united team seems to be awful on artificial surfaces no matter which manager or players we have.

Not blaming him as he has been asked to fill in there but Grimshaw is not a RB and we need to fix the position quickly as i feel teams are now targeting us there and have spotted it as a weakness in out team.

RogerTheAlien wrote:

Will save my comments for tomorrow, tonight I’m just thinking about the poor souls involved in that accident. I was there, it’s something i won’t ever forget.

I wasnae at the game, bein at a femily doo instead, but 2 oe my mates were there, and like you Roger, they saw something of the incident after the game.

Think it's crud that we canna get a win against a team sitting 3rd bottom in the League below us. And missing 2 penalties. Jeezo.

Well, we can always go and see Farfir in the next roond.
 

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Billy_Hainey wrote:

RogerTheAlien wrote:

Will save my comments for tomorrow, tonight I’m just thinking about the poor souls involved in that accident. I was there, it’s something i won’t ever forget.

Sadly, one of those involved has passed away.

https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-scotland-south-scotland-67535873

looks like he had a heart attack at the wheel and ran into 3 supporters
 

CCX2 2010 wrote:

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It's a long drag now until the end of the season with only the league to play for, that was our target and must be delivered.

Spot on m8. Nail on the haed.

A brutal result, but a bit of perspective.

Last season, we went entire games without a shot at goal. At least we created a good number of chances at Palmerston, even if our composure in front of goal was shocking.

Goodwin has had one window, with funds presumably a bit limited because of Birighitti and Watt salaries. He saw pretty much the same problems that we did, and he attempted to address them. We've got a much better keeper, a better centre half pairing, a better central mid, a more productive forward, and we're much, much fitter. There are still improvements to be made in a few positions - we are far from the finished article - and not all of his signings have worked out. We are still weak in one or two positions and we have very little depth to the squad. As Tek said, as usual, there was nobody on the bench to come on and change a game (although IMO, that game didn't need to be changed - we just needed to put away one of the bucket load of chances we were creating).

In the January window, Goodwin needs to do enough to make sure we finish top. In the summer window, when more funds should be available, he needs to do enough to have a squad with the quality and depth capable of competing for top 6 IMO. I'll judge him in a year's time. The Falkirk game was horrific, but I'm not going to lose any sleep over a performance where we did more than enough to win the game 19 times out of 20.

Canadian Arab wrote:

A brutal result, but a bit of perspective.

Last season, we went entire games without a shot at goal. At least we created a good number of chances at Palmerston, even if our composure in front of goal was shocking.

Goodwin has had one window, with funds presumably a bit limited because of Birighitti and Watt salaries. He saw pretty much the same problems that we did, and he attempted to address them. We've got a much better keeper, a better centre half pairing, a better central mid, a more productive forward, and we're much, much fitter. There are still improvements to be made in a few positions - we are far from the finished article - and not all of his signings have worked out. We are still weak in one or two positions and we have very little depth to the squad. As Tek said, as usual, there was nobody on the bench to come on and change a game (although IMO, that game didn't need to be changed - we just needed to put away one of the bucket load of chances we were creating).

In the January window, Goodwin needs to do enough to make sure we finish top. In the summer window, when more funds should be available, he needs to do enough to have a squad with the quality and depth capable of competing for top 6 IMO. I'll judge him in a year's time. The Falkirk game was horrific, but I'm not going to lose any sleep over a performance where we did more than enough to win the game 19 times out of 20.

Also largely agree with this.  A couple of points though.  I'm not sure we can really separate the windows in terms of why we are taking on personnel.  We just don't have the cash or the sellable assets to add players in January who are not for the long term.  Yes there are loans, but we have no success in finding those sorts of players.  So for me if we can add one or two long term faces in the right positions and those players are top league capable then all good.  If not, I'd be tempted not to bother and keep giving the youngsters a chance.

In terms of goals when we get there, I'd far prefer that we are not insisting as fans on top 6 of the top league for the first couple of seasons.  Can we not just concentrate on building a team that doesn't go down?  Think they might lose out of steam this year, but I'd rather have been Livingston over the last decade than us.  Ultimately, the Euro sojourn was just an embarrassment and papered over the chasms behind the scenes.  

Finally, as a team that has 4 times the number of cups to top league wins, I don't think we should be a team that is out of all cups before Christmas.  That is not good enough!