GFL wrote:

Season worth deal, fine by me. Providing its adjacent to the league we are in.
If he hits the ground running and scores 15+ good. Get him tied up.

Agree, he’s only signed for one season. Let’s hope it works out for him and us.

We’re fucked until Ogren sells up unfortunately. He’s lost interest in United just as he did with the Minnesota Moondogs or whatever his baseball team was.

I hoped that Goodwin was the right man for the situation we found ourselves in. Despite the relegation, I could see the reasoning behind giving him a two-year deal There were a few glimmers of hope before the split. He talked well and he was best placed to make a judgment on the players we had and the type of players we needed. But it’s starting to become apparent this ain’t what he signed up for. His body language and answers in interviews in recent weeks are very telling, he’s been sold a pup by Ogren and Cappuccino.

We’ve taken in about £350k in transfer fees this summer and probably offloaded somewhere between 30 & 40k a week off the wage bill with probably another 10k plus still to follow if we can get rid of Mulgrew, Biro, Behich & Niskanen. And I’d be shocked if the 3 guys we’ve signed permanently are on much more than a grand a week. I get that we’re in the championship and the belt must be tightened, but holy fuck, surely we can attract better than Holt or Docherty?

We need another 5 or 6 QUALITY signings or we are down here for the long haul, no ifs buts or maybes. A RB, 2 new centre halves, a playmaker in midfield, another winger and a striker.

Ogren failed to gamble in January and look what it’s cost him. If he doesn’t gamble now, we 100% won’t go up, and it is going to cost him a hell of a lot more when the club he owns has no more sellable assets, and about half the season ticket base that it has this year. He needs to think carefully about what he does in this next 6 weeks or so before the transfer window slams shut if he has any visions about getting any sort of return on his investment.

RogerTheAlien wrote:

There should’ve been a call by all supporters groups to unite as one in February/March and call for supporters to not by season tickets until Ogren agreed to sell. Clearly doesn’t give a fuck about us, that was confirmed with his relegation comments.

We need new owners and direction before it’s too late.

agreed.  this is the thing with the current structure where the owner has a stated objective to make profits from the business but puts his investment on the balance sheet as a loan rather than putting the money in as equity and taking responsibility for his plan.  if he's successful he gets his money back and takes the profit.  if he isn't then he still gets his money back.  

i don't have a particular issue with the principle of making a profit - since if it were actually possible to make money in scottish football you presumably would need to have a successful, sustainable team on the park and a regular turnover of players that bigger teams want - but there needs to be responsibility in the governance structure when cretinous decisions get made.   Ogren does not strike me as a bad guy... just totally out of his depth with what he has taken on.  the relegation comments.  did he understand that when we get relegated what little value our players had goes straight down the toilet and any decent players we do have will be doing what they can to exit?  that decrease in value of Levitt and Behich alone from getting relegated would be more than what getting in a keeper and striker on 6m contracts in january would have cost.  but as it is the losses will just make their way into the Ogren loan which he'll be looking to get repaid if/when he sells up.  it stinks.

MockChop wrote:

Jack Fitzwater, ex Livingston.

Still a free agent (I think).
Right footed CH. 6ft 3. Wages would be cheap. 100 games in the Prem for Livi

I’d like to see us do this deal.

 
Would be a terrific signing. He was one of the ones I outlined at the start of this thread. Whether he’d drop down to this level, I don’t know. But he’d be worth throwing a bit of money at if need be.

Whether it’s Fitzwater or someone else, we need at least one dominant centre half, preferably two. It was quite clear last night that neither of the two centre halves we’ve signed are remotely dominant.

I’m wondering now having seen them whether we’re being a bit quick in chasing Mulgrew out the door.

I'd get Fitzwater in and play Denham at right back.

Stillliving wrote:

Another strange modern fascination is that both CH must have a different dominant foot.
I'm told it's a problem to play Holt & Graham together , why?
Hearty & Narey Miller & Mcliesh Durnan & Donaldson 😀 didn't used to be an issue.

You had me until the last pair!! 

Good point you make, what happens when someone goes through the middle of the defence and the are both on their weaker foot!

Really don’t know what people were expecting this season. We created very little last season and the 2 players we had that were supposed to be creative Dylan and Jamie have both gone and we haven’t even attempted to replace them and signed some Championship journey men instead. I think our new no 9 can score goals at this level but whether he gets the service is another matter but I’m not holding my breath for fast free flowing football.

Our strongest team is imho:

Walton

Grimshaw
AN OTHER
Holt
McMann

Docherty
Sibbald

AN OTHER
Glass/Mochrie (not sure which, but it's not Meekison)
Fotheringham

Moult

Tek wrote:

LAO.

Glad it's not just me who doesn't get the Meekison hype.

 

 
Got to bear in mind he’s just back, earlier than expected, from an ACL tear. You can see a lot of these boys have the technical ability in spades, but my god do they need to bulk up.

For the first time in their history, the fun are actually going through a period where they’re producing more first-team ready youngsters than we are. And it’s not because these boys are miles better footballers than ours are, it’s because they’re built like men as opposed to skinny wee 14 year old boys. We seem to have skipped the physicality but with these youngsters, and now that they’re getting their chance in the first team, it really shows.

Just noticed Cody Cooke's a free agent. Scored one goal in every two starts for Bath City last season, but looking for new club.

Always kept a wee eye on him after his hat-trick at Dens 3/4 years back.

Be a cheap option for a back-up Striker (which we need, Rory MacLeod too young).


 

Strikers out of contract -

Florian Kamberi
James Wilson
Connor Wickham
Sean Maguire
Keyendrah Simmonds
Sean Adarkwa

Arabdownsouth wrote:

Arab87 wrote:

Strikers out of contract -

Florian Kamberi
James Wilson
Connor Wickham
Sean Maguire
Keyendrah Simmonds
Sean Adarkwa

 
I really don't see the point of compiling lists of out of contract players. When has this ever turned into a signing?

Also, not a clue who most of those are anyway.

 
Sorry Mr Goodwin. I'll leave the recruitment to you.

Arabdownsouth wrote:

Arab87 wrote:

Strikers out of contract -

Florian Kamberi
James Wilson
Connor Wickham
Sean Maguire
Keyendrah Simmonds
Sean Adarkwa

 
I really don't see the point of compiling lists of out of contract players. When has this ever turned into a signing?

Also, not a clue who most of those are anyway.

Something to talk about?