Tek wrote:

Has to be the same team and formation who thrashed Killie on Wednesday.

 
Maybe Sibbald in for Djoum but other than that, same again please!

On the ball Djoum did not look too clever. His positioning though made a big difference to the team. He is the only CM we have who naturally likes to sit deep in front of the CH.
I would keep him in the team

I would go same team barring injuries.

They will be right up for it after the last time against us which may suit us as we play better against teams who look to attack rather than get 11 behind the ball all the time.

A great fight, but a poor result. We only had 2 on target but so did the SSBs.

We were every bit as good as they were. But it was never gonna be easy up at that shithole.

Pen. Eh thought Birighitti got the ba and tipped it awa. We'll just had to see what the other ermchair experts on the Bullshit station say aboot it.

Phuckin seek TBH, and it's no the Covid.

We need to be getting this soarted oot right after Qatar, or were gonna be fighting for wir life soon efter Xmas.

United Arab Emarite wrote:

I'd settle for the play-off place right now.
And no idea who would then be beneath us, there isn't really a sh!te team other than us.
We need to pull our socks up for the Derby play-off.


 

 
After the old firm, probably hearts too, everyone else is shyte

lifesanocean wrote:

Was at the game. Our performance can best be summed up as low tempo tippy-tappy pish. For about 15-20 mins of the 2nd half it looked like we happy to just take a 1-0 defeat, such was the lack of urgency and fight. It got better after the subs but for all the nice wee triangles of passing, it's far too ineffectual. Teams in a relegation struggle won't stay up playing that way, especially away from home where our record is abysmal.

A lot of people have said this is a repeat of 2015-16. It's not, it's not, it's a repeat of 1994-95 where we as a club thought we were too good to go down (even scudding Hearts 5-2 and Motherwell 6-1 along the way), never adapted our style and sleepwalked into relegation. Teams like Falkirk brought in boys who were up for the fight like Stevie Kirk and Mo Johnston, we sold Cleland and Bollan and brought in two foreigners one of whom never got out the reserves. That season we usually still looked decent against the teams in the top half of the league but kept losing against teams in the bottom half like Killie, Falkirk etc. Sound familiar?

Fox in some ways has made us better by stopping the scuddings we were getting under Ross but, 1. We still have no idea how to play against team's who sit in against us and let us have the ball, particularly Smith and Edwards who's distribution are both laughably bad and actually are responsible for breaking down more of our moves than our opponents (particularly Smith who CANNOT pass the ball) and 2. We are mentally weak away from home. When teams step up a gear, we don't look up for the fight because we have one way of playing (The Killie game was a blip because Killie came on to us and were awful all night). Even when we go long, Fletcher wins nothing in the air in too many games (like last night). The boy Sadat has got ability and pace but will score nothing for us because of the way we play trying to (slowly) walk the ball into the net through a packed defence. I bet he'd score a bucketload for a Livingston or St Mirren who hit teams quickly on the counter. 1 win in the last 7 peeps.

Worrying. And that before we get on to that absolute arsehole in the goal. He was actually unlucky with the penalty but everything else he does is just piss poor; kicking, positioning, saves virtually nothing and doesn't appear to think he is at fault for anything.

Brilliant post LAO. Agree with so much of that, and the comparison to season 94/95 is quite apt. A team who the fans think are too good to go down and are capable of good results on their day, but ultimately the form is just far too inconsistent and we are getting outfought and outbattled in too many games against 'lesser' teams.

I think it was galling again last night that Aberdeen seemingly were quite content to surrender possession to us in the 2nd half. I have seen this so many times this season.

When we do have a good night our goals tend to come from good counter attacks where a clever pass out does the opposition and we get in on goal. The problem is when a team gets their noses in front we are in real trouble because they invariably just have to put everyone behind the ball and they know we become ineffective.

We cannot play through teams. Last night even though our 2nd half possession was probably about 70/30 in our favour we still only had one shot on target (and from a defender). It was a carbon copy of the 1-0 defeat to Killie in the LCQF i.e. team gets their noses in front and then are happy to give us the ball as they are confident they can keep us out.

On both nights (and far too often) the midfield are far too anonymous. Not one player demands the ball and wants to really take men on and make something happen. It's all far too passive and 'tippy tappy' as you put it.

I get the feeling far too often we think we can just turn up and it'll happen, rather than really trying to take responsibility and make things happen from the first whistle. Particularly away from home. We start slow as fuck and then are chasing the game.

Most of us know what we need recruitment wise in January. We need a huge window. Our biggest window since January 2016.

Sadly, i have no belief at all that we will recruit the players we badly need.
 

We are not sitting bottom because we lost away at Aberdeen.  It's because we lost at home to St Mirren , St Johnstone, Livingston & Motherwell. All those teams outfought us.
A new keeper and a  midfielder who just runs about and knocks a few people over is required in January.
Just like Butcher used to do, although he was called a liability and had to go about this time last year by many online experts.
If this dosent happen we will spend the rest of the season in the relegation  dogfight.

To state the obvious, World Cup break couldn't come at better time.
To state the blindingly obvious, Birighitti on next one way to Woolloommooloo.
( Did he give Ross Graham a shout or what when Ross Graham ducked under free header ... should have shouted one way or the other)

AlwaysUnited wrote:

 
........ I actually think we have a cracking team, certainly top 4 ability wise. For a variety of reasons things haven't gone to plan, but as Tangy says above we have played well in the last few games.

I think the break will be good. Build up the confidence between Birighitti and the back 4, play a few scratch games, work on set pieces, all in a more relaxed and pressure free environment for a few weeks before we start ramping up for the return.

I'm pretty sure we can take six points out of six v Livingston and Hearts after the break.

Top 4.

Have you been on the glue.
 

Billy_Hainey wrote:

AlwaysUnited wrote:

 
........ I actually think we have a cracking team, certainly top 4 ability wise. For a variety of reasons things haven't gone to plan, but as Tangy says above we have played well in the last few games.

I think the break will be good. Build up the confidence between Birighitti and the back 4, play a few scratch games, work on set pieces, all in a more relaxed and pressure free environment for a few weeks before we start ramping up for the return.

I'm pretty sure we can take six points out of six v Livingston and Hearts after the break.

Top 4.

Have you been on the glue.
 

 
Never off the stuff

AlwaysUnited wrote:

Arabdownsouth wrote:

Billy_Hainey wrote:

Top 4.

Have you been on the glue.
 

 
Never off the stuff

 
The same team made top 4 last year. The only major departure has been Siegrist (arguably Clark too). I genuinely believe that the current team should be good enough to emulate that feat - although of course the table doesn't lie and performances over the season haven't been nearly good enough overall.

 
The 4th place last season was down to our early season run of form with Butcher and Fuchs protecting our defence and Siegrist keeping clean sheets. We now have spaghetti fingers throwing points away, we had the worst start to the season I can ever remember and we are currently winning about 1 in 5 games. We are fucked, and you need to get down to screwfix and top up on the Bostik.