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05/12/2020 6:44 pm  #26


Re: Livingston v's Dundee Utd - Saturday 5th December

Quite the opposite. Really couldn't give a fuck.

 

05/12/2020 6:52 pm  #27


Re: Livingston v's Dundee Utd - Saturday 5th December

Goodie Conway 2 wrote:

Quite the opposite. Really couldn't give a fuck.

So, you don't care about our results and we're so shite that you never even bothered watching  today as you knew what was coming. Yet, you have a problem with my opinion (which you clearly share)?

Odd to say the least GC2.


 

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05/12/2020 6:55 pm  #28


Re: Livingston v's Dundee Utd - Saturday 5th December

Our results have been good, which is why we're 6th, which is why we'll be fine, which is why greeting after a defeat and demanding better is tedious to say the least.

 

05/12/2020 7:02 pm  #29


Re: Livingston v's Dundee Utd - Saturday 5th December

Goodie Conway 2 wrote:

Our results have been good, which is why we're 6th, which is why we'll be fine, which is why greeting after a defeat and demanding better is tedious to say the least.

Who demanded better? It won't get better. Which is why i am worried for the club this season.

Anyway i'll leave you to it. 
 

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05/12/2020 7:06 pm  #30


Re: Livingston v's Dundee Utd - Saturday 5th December

Goodie Conway 2 wrote:

Our results have been good, which is why we're 6th, which is why we'll be fine, which is why greeting after a defeat and demanding better is tedious to say the least.

 
Next week it will be "which is why we're 7th".

The following week it will be "which is why we're 8th"

etc etc until the penny drops.

There is a divide between those who think the current dire standard is the best this team can produce and those who (myself included) think the current players are capable of producing better than this and are being held back by the managers approach and tactics. And yet it is the latter group who are being branded as negative.

I'm guessing you've got plenty of Friday nights free next season which is why you're not bothered.

Last edited by lifesanocean (05/12/2020 7:06 pm)


Too much commotion
 

05/12/2020 7:47 pm  #31


Re: Livingston v's Dundee Utd - Saturday 5th December

Arabdownsouth wrote:

Snacks94 wrote:

Just a typical awful United performance.  Got what we deserved.

Just a question of how many the Huns will score next Sunday.

Get a fucking grip of this team Mellon or fuck off.

 
Mellon wasn't there today.

It was always a question of how many they will score next Sunday.

I think someone else may need to get a grip, we are still sitting 6th and you want to sack the manager.

 
Mellon selected the team, the formation, the tactics and made the subs. That’s from Thomas Courts. That performance is FIRMLY at mellons door.

 

05/12/2020 7:50 pm  #32


Re: Livingston v's Dundee Utd - Saturday 5th December

lifesanocean wrote:

Goodie Conway 2 wrote:

Our results have been good, which is why we're 6th, which is why we'll be fine, which is why greeting after a defeat and demanding better is tedious to say the least.

 
Next week it will be "which is why we're 7th".

The following week it will be "which is why we're 8th"

etc etc until the penny drops.

There is a divide between those who think the current dire standard is the best this team can produce and those who (myself included) think the current players are capable of producing better than this and are being held back by the managers approach and tactics. And yet it is the latter group who are being branded as negative.

I'm guessing you've got plenty of Friday nights free next season which is why you're not bothered.

 
Our next 6:
Rangers
Hibs
Killie
Well
Celtic
Aberdeen

Based on current performances, with the current setup, we’re gonna be in a fight for survival.
I know we can do better if we play to the strengths of the squad.

 

05/12/2020 7:52 pm  #33


Re: Livingston v's Dundee Utd - Saturday 5th December

I'm not bothered because it's just football.

 

05/12/2020 8:06 pm  #34


Re: Livingston v's Dundee Utd - Saturday 5th December

Goodie Conway 2 wrote:

I'm not bothered because it's just football.

That's fine, but why be condescending to people who are just concerned and being passionate about their team?
 

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05/12/2020 8:08 pm  #35


Re: Livingston v's Dundee Utd - Saturday 5th December

It’s pointless picking the bones out of today’s game, we all knew what was coming and we all know what’s in the post next week.

Questions need to be asked and addressed in the recruitment department, McNulty will be on a decent wedge and whilst he is far from the worst that has walked through the doors in the last few years he must be asking himself why he is here.

Clearly our best player is Shankland and the limitations of our centre mids were there for all to see in the Championship last season, we desperately needed a Target man to compliment him if we were going to go from back to front and Shankland and McNulty is just not going to work.

COVID has had an impact on recruitment and we are not alone but I find McNulty a like for like and Fuchs from what I have seen so far is also much of a much. These two players won’t have come cheap and they ain’t the worst but we could have and should have bought different types of players for two critical positions.

The Ogden’s in my opinion should be looking at the performance of the sporting director and asking if they are getting value for money and if it’s a return on transfer fees then ask themselves who will demand a transfer fee in the coming transfer window that has been brought in by him.

 

 

05/12/2020 8:48 pm  #36


Re: Livingston v's Dundee Utd - Saturday 5th December

CCX2 2010 wrote:

It’s pointless picking the bones out of today’s game, we all knew what was coming and we all know what’s in the post next week.

Questions need to be asked and addressed in the recruitment department, McNulty will be on a decent wedge and whilst he is far from the worst that has walked through the doors in the last few years he must be asking himself why he is here.

Clearly our best player is Shankland and the limitations of our centre mids were there for all to see in the Championship last season, we desperately needed a Target man to compliment him if we were going to go from back to front and Shankland and McNulty is just not going to work.

COVID has had an impact on recruitment and we are not alone but I find McNulty a like for like and Fuchs from what I have seen so far is also much of a much. These two players won’t have come cheap and they ain’t the worst but we could have and should have bought different types of players for two critical positions.

The Ogden’s in my opinion should be looking at the performance of the sporting director and asking if they are getting value for money and if it’s a return on transfer fees then ask themselves who will demand a transfer fee in the coming transfer window that has been brought in by him.

 

Good and fair post CC.

Mellon said we had to get our recruitment spot-on and that whoever we brought in had to improve the squad.

None of the signings we have made this season have improved us imo. 

Mellon and Asghar are both culpable for that.
 

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05/12/2020 9:28 pm  #37


Re: Livingston v's Dundee Utd - Saturday 5th December

We are fucking minging

Fear for us BIG time

 

05/12/2020 9:42 pm  #38


Re: Livingston v's Dundee Utd - Saturday 5th December

CCX2 2010 wrote:

It’s pointless picking the bones out of today’s game, we all knew what was coming and we all know what’s in the post next week.

Questions need to be asked and addressed in the recruitment department, McNulty will be on a decent wedge and whilst he is far from the worst that has walked through the doors in the last few years he must be asking himself why he is here.

Clearly our best player is Shankland and the limitations of our centre mids were there for all to see in the Championship last season, we desperately needed a Target man to compliment him if we were going to go from back to front and Shankland and McNulty is just not going to work.

COVID has had an impact on recruitment and we are not alone but I find McNulty a like for like and Fuchs from what I have seen so far is also much of a much. These two players won’t have come cheap and they ain’t the worst but we could have and should have bought different types of players for two critical positions.

The Ogden’s in my opinion should be looking at the performance of the sporting director and asking if they are getting value for money and if it’s a return on transfer fees then ask themselves who will demand a transfer fee in the coming transfer window that has been brought in by him.

 

 
I agree in some aspects although both Shankland and McNulty should be able to get goals in this league. I dont believe its the centre mids fault for the lack of creation infact the majority of time they may aswell no be playing as the back 3 simply miss them out by punting it long. Surely Mellon has seen our games from last season and is aware that we beat teams and created alot from trying to be on the front foot, playing football and getting the ball wide. The majority of our goals came from wide play - and for anyone who uses the 'but we are a newly promoted team' we beat st mirren and gave a good hibs team a run for their money. I believe it has to be a back 4 and that will allow Smith/ Robson to get forward and get the service to the strikers. The 3 either seems like a knee jerk reaction to Killie and Rangers or he is not happy to drop one of them. We seen in the last 15 minutes of the Hamilton game what we can do with 4 at the back creating more in that small time than we have in previous full matches.

It is obviously a strange season and we need to ensure survival but come on as fans surely we deserve some quality to view on the pitch. Mellon says when he came in 'we are Dundee United' yet he has us playing like Hamilton.

 

05/12/2020 11:12 pm  #39


Re: Livingston v's Dundee Utd - Saturday 5th December

WeeDude_83 wrote:

Arabdownsouth wrote:

Snacks94 wrote:

Just a typical awful United performance.  Got what we deserved.

Just a question of how many the Huns will score next Sunday.

Get a fucking grip of this team Mellon or fuck off.

 
Mellon wasn't there today.

It was always a question of how many they will score next Sunday.

I think someone else may need to get a grip, we are still sitting 6th and you want to sack the manager.

 
Mellon selected the team, the formation, the tactics and made the subs. That’s from Thomas Courts. That performance is FIRMLY at mellons door.

 
As are the 20 points we have earned so far and also our 6th place in the league.

Last edited by Arabdownsouth (05/12/2020 11:14 pm)

 

06/12/2020 8:01 am  #40


Re: Livingston v's Dundee Utd - Saturday 5th December

Arab93 wrote:

CCX2 2010 wrote:

It’s pointless picking the bones out of today’s game, we all knew what was coming and we all know what’s in the post next week.

Questions need to be asked and addressed in the recruitment department, McNulty will be on a decent wedge and whilst he is far from the worst that has walked through the doors in the last few years he must be asking himself why he is here.

Clearly our best player is Shankland and the limitations of our centre mids were there for all to see in the Championship last season, we desperately needed a Target man to compliment him if we were going to go from back to front and Shankland and McNulty is just not going to work.

COVID has had an impact on recruitment and we are not alone but I find McNulty a like for like and Fuchs from what I have seen so far is also much of a much. These two players won’t have come cheap and they ain’t the worst but we could have and should have bought different types of players for two critical positions.

The Ogden’s in my opinion should be looking at the performance of the sporting director and asking if they are getting value for money and if it’s a return on transfer fees then ask themselves who will demand a transfer fee in the coming transfer window that has been brought in by him.

 

 
I agree in some aspects although both Shankland and McNulty should be able to get goals in this league. I dont believe its the centre mids fault for the lack of creation infact the majority of time they may aswell no be playing as the back 3 simply miss them out by punting it long. Surely Mellon has seen our games from last season and is aware that we beat teams and created alot from trying to be on the front foot, playing football and getting the ball wide. The majority of our goals came from wide play - and for anyone who uses the 'but we are a newly promoted team' we beat st mirren and gave a good hibs team a run for their money. I believe it has to be a back 4 and that will allow Smith/ Robson to get forward and get the service to the strikers. The 3 either seems like a knee jerk reaction to Killie and Rangers or he is not happy to drop one of them. We seen in the last 15 minutes of the Hamilton game what we can do with 4 at the back creating more in that small time than we have in previous full matches.

It is obviously a strange season and we need to ensure survival but come on as fans surely we deserve some quality to view on the pitch. Mellon says when he came in 'we are Dundee United' yet he has us playing like Hamilton.

 
Both.  100%

Especially punting it long.

 

06/12/2020 10:14 am  #41


Re: Livingston v's Dundee Utd - Saturday 5th December

Not to open up wounds of 2 weeks ago but Smith involved for both their goals yesterday. First one, Edwards misses a header high up the pitch and we end up conceding again, I think that’s the 3rd goal like that already this year. Smith then backs off and Connolly hesitates between 2 men.

We can not appear to defend high which means our starting positions are deep and therefore has a defensive impact on the whole team. if we try and press a game, we’ll likely be done in behind.

Second one, I know there a big team but with 3 centre halves on, surely smith should not be picking up Bartley? Out muscled initially then never recovers to react. Pretty poor to watch it back.

We had a couple of chances in fairness but we never really looked like scoring. We don’t transition well at all. Early hoof ball that comes right back or slow play that usually results in a poor pass giving the ball away. No surprise to see an article through the week saying we are the most wasteful team in the league. Flaws in all areas.

Can’t say I fear for us like some are jumping too. Bare in mind we were 7 unbeaten in the league before today and we can be hard to beat against the higher up teams. We’ll see what the next few weeks bring

 

06/12/2020 11:11 pm  #42


Re: Livingston v's Dundee Utd - Saturday 5th December

Our 'heat map' from yesterday.

Wow. Says it all.

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07/12/2020 8:34 am  #43


Re: Livingston v's Dundee Utd - Saturday 5th December

Faaark ... great image

 

07/12/2020 9:02 am  #44


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