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11/8/2020 7:04 pm  #26


Re: Dundee Utd v Hibs 11/08/20

Hopefully Mickey has given Pawllett his chance and realized he is well past the reputation he had at Aberdeen. That was Neilson style today imo. Three or four passes between defense then hopeful launch. Bolton and Harkes impressed. Hopefully Bolton + Shankland equals goals. 


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11/8/2020 7:04 pm  #27


Re: Dundee Utd v Hibs 11/08/20

Pros and cons to take from the match.

Firstly we looked generally solid, we aren't going to concede many against teams from 4th - 12th. We work hard and are committed- a marked improvement from last season when 'just enough' felt like all that was required.

However, its a small concern, from midfield to front. I think the defensive solidity comes at the expense of the attacking prowess. We have scored 0 goals from open play in 3 matches. I'm not panicking but its a fact.

I think maybe Mellon will see that once we started having a go, we gave them a really good game. With the increased attacking and a quality striker up front, we could be a threat


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11/8/2020 7:05 pm  #28


Re: Dundee Utd v Hibs 11/08/20

If anything this game has showed we’re needing a winger and a striker, apart from that no complaints, silly goal to give away but can not fault the players attitude and desire

Harkes and pawlett were good again especially harkes both like new signings

 

11/8/2020 7:06 pm  #29


Re: Dundee Utd v Hibs 11/08/20

Edwards should have been off immediately, his lack of a challenge cost us the game. Bad management.

 

11/8/2020 7:11 pm  #30


Re: Dundee Utd v Hibs 11/08/20

smedDUm wrote:

Edwards should have been off immediately, his lack of a challenge cost us the game. Bad management.

 
I'd say its more the players fault than the managers, if the player says he's OK and wants to run it off then most managers would probably give him a chance to do that. If the player knows he's fucked he needs to put his hand up.

 

11/8/2020 7:12 pm  #31


Re: Dundee Utd v Hibs 11/08/20

SuperMario wrote:

If anything this game has showed we’re needing a winger and a striker, apart from that no complaints, silly goal to give away but can not fault the players attitude and desire

Harkes and pawlett were good again especially harkes both like new signings

Agreed about Harkes. Pawlett was his usual self-pish. 
 


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11/8/2020 7:19 pm  #32


Re: Dundee Utd v Hibs 11/08/20

Harkes should have done better with 2 chances.
Clark done nothing all game.
Wasnt impressed with Smith or Chalmers when they came on.

Disappointing not to take anything from that game overall.



 
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11/8/2020 7:19 pm  #33


Re: Dundee Utd v Hibs 11/08/20

japanarab wrote:

SuperMario wrote:

If anything this game has showed we’re needing a winger and a striker, apart from that no complaints, silly goal to give away but can not fault the players attitude and desire

Harkes and pawlett were good again especially harkes both like new signings

Agreed about Harkes. Pawlett was his usual self-pish. 
 

 
Pawlett put a lot of effort in but his touch let's him down too often. He will probably get away with it more against weaker teams than hibs. We didn't have enough on the bench to change the game, they did.

 

11/8/2020 7:24 pm  #34


Re: Dundee Utd v Hibs 11/08/20

Subs, except Neilson, were pretty poor to be honest

Don’t think anyone really stood out, Bolton was a threat until he tired.

Need Shankland back ASAP

 

11/8/2020 7:38 pm  #35


Re: Dundee Utd v Hibs 11/08/20

Snacks94 wrote:

Subs, except Neilson, were pretty poor to be honest

Don’t think anyone really stood out, Bolton was a threat until he tired.

Need Shankland back ASAP

 
Totally agree, dont think Pawlett was too bad (missed a chance and gave away a bad ball) but battled away. Harkes and Bolton stood out more for me.

Need a big battering ram of a striker in my opinion to give an extra option going forward, cause problems to long balls or balls in the box, too lightweight without shankland.

 

11/8/2020 7:40 pm  #36


Re: Dundee Utd v Hibs 11/08/20

Wing back is a absolute graveyard shift, surprised we never went back to a back four when Edwards went off

 

11/8/2020 7:41 pm  #37


Re: Dundee Utd v Hibs 11/08/20

I felt the defence and midfield were a match for Hibs but the strikers - Apperre & Clark did not offer any real threat.
Overall I think Hibs just shaded it , but only  just.

Keep the heads up and hopefully Shankland back for Saturday.

 

11/8/2020 7:51 pm  #38


Re: Dundee Utd v Hibs 11/08/20

Plenty of positives from that with the goal and the lack of the final ball/pass/shot the main negatives.

I think Connolly and Reynolds showed again that, although they might not be fantastic ball players, when it comes to defending in this league, they can hold their own.

Harkes was good again. Sporle did plenty of positive running too.

Feel like Louis looks a bit lost up front. If Shankland is back on Saturday I fancy our chances up there.

Pawlett frustrated me a lot in the 2nd half. He does some good stuff but I'm just never comfortable when he is on the ball. He was unlucky with his chance though I felt

Tough to go into that game without Shankland, McMullan, Smith and then lose Robson within 10ish mins. The fact we could have easily got a draw out of that should be encouraging.

Edit to mention Bolton too. Maybe could have done better at the goal but going forward, excellent.

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11/8/2020 7:53 pm  #39


Re: Dundee Utd v Hibs 11/08/20

Arabdownsouth wrote:

smedDUm wrote:

Edwards should have been off immediately, his lack of a challenge cost us the game. Bad management.

 
I'd say its more the players fault than the managers, if the player says he's OK and wants to run it off then most managers would probably give him a chance to do that. If the player knows he's fucked he needs to put his hand up.

Bad management by the player Downsouth. I could have blocked Doidge's shot from my settee. We had the two best chances of the game (Harkes & Pawlett). Edwards not substituting himself cost us the draw & unbeaten first three games. He pulled up after his non-challenge, shouldn't have been near the action, we don't need a limping dedender.
 

 

11/8/2020 7:55 pm  #40


Re: Dundee Utd v Hibs 11/08/20

Connollly and Reynolds haven't looked out of place in this league so far and kept the much lauded hibs attack quiet apart from the goal which should have been disallowed anyway. Harkes put in a tremendous shift again, Bolton looks like a good addition once he gets fully match fit. Edwards looked comfortable until his injury and Sporle looked an able deputy and hopefully can keep Robson on his toes this season. We miss Shankland and need some good additions up front and wide to give us a chance of making our mark this season.

 

11/8/2020 7:59 pm  #41


Re: Dundee Utd v Hibs 11/08/20

Only listened to the game on the wireless tonight, so can't really comment on the game.

Sounds like we competed well and deserved a point. Albeit in a poor spectacle.

We need a Striker (even with Shankland staying) and a creative midfielder. A left sided winger also.

Get them in and we could aim for top 6.

 

11/8/2020 8:01 pm  #42


Re: Dundee Utd v Hibs 11/08/20

Connolly and Reynolds played decent but I just don't see what others do with the midfield.

We ain't creating much at all in all our matches apart from Rangers reserves we ain't scored any more than one goal.

Running about all day is great but effort should be a given, that said there ain't much in it and a wee bit of class in the middle of the park is a Must.

I would have liked to see glass playing on the no 10 role in the meantime as he showed we touches last season.

 

11/8/2020 8:03 pm  #43


Re: Dundee Utd v Hibs 11/08/20

It will be interesting to see how react to defeat at least. Hopefully have Shankland back by the weekend.

 

11/8/2020 8:05 pm  #44


Re: Dundee Utd v Hibs 11/08/20

Agree that it was clear that Edwards had tweaked his hammy.  With Neilson on the bench we should have switched it right away.  Not sure that was the issue though.  He made the wrong decision to go to the ball and left Bolton with Doig and Doidge to deal with.  Doig was offside and the goal shouldn't have stood, but the lad finished it really well.  For the only real moment of danger in the whole game (bar Pawlett's almost assist) I think we were pretty unlucky to not be sitting on 5 points tonight.  Hibs looked a better outfit generally and we clearly need a couple of players in on top of those that were missing tonight.  Overall we handled Hibs pace pretty well and the defence had another good game.

Difficult to be too despondent, but we do need to find some goals from somewhere...

There wasn't a lot of finesse out there, but two reasonably even teams tended to cancel each other out.  If we can get a couple in to add to the starting XI then I'm confident we'll be challenging for a top six place.

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11/8/2020 8:07 pm  #45


Re: Dundee Utd v Hibs 11/08/20

Injuries seem to be mounting up, which is a concern

McMullan, Shankland, L Smith, Robson and Edwards all now injured.

 

11/8/2020 8:11 pm  #46


Re: Dundee Utd v Hibs 11/08/20

Snacks94 wrote:

Injuries seem to be mounting up, which is a concern

McMullan, Shankland, L Smith, Robson and Edwards all now injured.

MM has as up for it if nothing else - I don't think it was a booking, but there was no need for Robson to go in like he did.  If we continue the up and at them then I think we'll pick up many more injuries too - there is a reason MM is using plenty players...

 

11/8/2020 8:20 pm  #47


Re: Dundee Utd v Hibs 11/08/20

Played pretty well. Crap result. We had a good few attempts, I think we had more than Hibs, but yeah our finishing let us down a bit. There was very few that either keeper had to stop.

Think we deserved a point tho.

 

11/8/2020 8:29 pm  #48


Re: Dundee Utd v Hibs 11/08/20

Hibs just shaded it.
We competed well and will improve.

Harkes really coming on in top tier.
Edit - whereas last year he seemed like he was a wee bitty shy and diffident,  this year he looks like he's feeling one of the boys, comfortable, aggressive, confident part of the team. Great foil for an on form Butch.

Bolton always a threat.

Great to see the two young laddies come on.

Sporle's a last 20 minutes man.
Louis - great workrate - ploughing a lone furrow isnae his game - half a yard off the pace and misses Shanks - as do the whole team.
Edwards shouldae been off as soon as he did his hammie.
Robson's injury threw us off kilter for half an hour or more.
Pawlett - don't what Neilson saw in him, don't know what Mickey sees in him, don't know why Declan Glass is getting wasted on bench.
Cammie Smith, Nicky Clark ineffectual.

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11/8/2020 8:53 pm  #49


Re: Dundee Utd v Hibs 11/08/20

Thought we were ok tonight, competed well enough in a scrappy game.  Scrappy prob suited us tbf.

Really missed Robson when he went off, particularly going forward.

Goal came because Edwards went chasing a ball he was never getting and left his man, worse because he was injured and couldn’t ever get back in to block.
2 goals conceded so far and both due to CB mistakes, need to cut them out.

Pawlett, I just don’t get, yes he competed well enough, was reasonably tidy, but we need someone who’s actually going to look for the forward pass & create in that position.  Glass the closest to the type we need that we have but if he’s not ready then we need someone in.

 

11/8/2020 9:12 pm  #50


Re: Dundee Utd v Hibs 11/08/20

Pawlett is much improved on last season.  His fitness has come on leaps and bounds.  However, I think he's a Championship player these days unfortunately.  Hope he proves me wrong, (and his corners are also looking better than last year) but can't see him improving more than his pre-season work has allowed thus far.  We are crying out for a Scott Allan or dare I say it a Graham Dorrans type.

 

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