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01/8/2020 10:09 pm  #26


Re: Vs St Johnstone match thread

Thought Harkes was good today, strange how people see things so differently.

 

01/8/2020 11:04 pm  #27


Re: Vs St Johnstone match thread

I thought Harkes started the game well but drifted out of it. Clark didn't contribute too much apart from the penalty. We really need someone to control the pace of the game in the middle of the park - a Charlie Miller type player. Still need some width as Shanks is starved of service, he is feeding off scraps.

Individual error cost us again and the heads went down for a while after their goal. We will need to get used to being in the back foot a bit more now we are in the top league again. Based on this performance alone, we require at least another 2/3 players in during this window.

All in all a bit of an anti-climax and points dropped in light of the sending off but not too disappointed. Tougher challenge at Fir Park next week.

Last edited by Luggy10 (01/8/2020 11:07 pm)

 

01/8/2020 11:12 pm  #28


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Lot of good things and I don't want to pick on a negative,  but . ...

Connolly.

Sorry son you've been a great clubman,  you play with your heart on your sleeve mate, but you're a fuckin liability.

   - - - -

Take a look back 2 seasons at St Mirren 2nd leg where Connolly's woeful challenge cost us promotion .

He was a liability then.


Get rid of Connolly  .
Get a CB in who knows how to get rid of the ba'.

  - - - - - -

And while I'm about it I'm fed up hearing this "early doors" shite.
. ... I've got news, the season's underway.

  - - - - - -

Phukin weird atmosphere.

 

01/8/2020 11:43 pm  #29


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At the moment we are a Championship squad. We have been unable to strengthen our squad due to aspects of the pandemic, a change of management and the Partick midlothian court case. Hopefully MM can strengthen the team in the near future. Until that happens we should realise that we might struggle in this league.

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02/8/2020 5:52 am  #30


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McMullan coming back will be a boost, I don't get why some don't rate him but hey it's all about opinions. He takes a man on and is always looking to attack. Him and Bolton on the wings could cause some rea lhavoc

 

02/8/2020 8:05 am  #31


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Swing_kinker wrote:

McMullan coming back will be a boost, I don't get why some don't rate him but hey it's all about opinions. He takes a man on and is always looking to attack. Him and Bolton on the wings could cause some rea lhavoc

 
Mcmullan rarely ever beats a man. He is not a winger. Id much rather see Sporle given a run in the team as a winger than the hapless Mcmullan. PM should've been shown the door under Laslo. Running about like a headless chicken  doesn't make him a good player, We shouldn't be confusing effort with ability.

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02/8/2020 8:35 am  #32


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Shakey Isles Arab wrote:

Lot of good things and I don't want to pick on a negative,  but . ...

Connolly.

Sorry son you've been a great clubman,  you play with your heart on your sleeve mate, but you're a fuckin liability.

   - - - -

Take a look back 2 seasons at St Mirren 2nd leg where Connolly's woeful challenge cost us promotion .

He was a liability then.


Get rid of Connolly  .
Get a CB in who knows how to get rid of the ba'.

  - - - - - -

And while I'm about it I'm fed up hearing this "early doors" shite.
. ... I've got news, the season's underway.

  - - - - - -

Phukin weird atmosphere.

 

Disagree re Connolly. Bad mistake for the goal, but that ball could have fuckin anywhere. Just unlucky it landed right on the lads left foot. He's not a liability in my opinion.

He was excellent for the other 89 minutes of the game. I dont want us to 'get rid' of him tbh.

Tek's summary of the game is spot on. Some positives, some negatives, plenty to be excited about, plenty to work on.

 

02/8/2020 8:36 am  #33


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Marklandsvelvettouch wrote:

Swing_kinker wrote:

McMullan coming back will be a boost, I don't get why some don't rate him but hey it's all about opinions. He takes a man on and is always looking to attack. Him and Bolton on the wings could cause some rea lhavoc

 
Mcmullan rarely ever beats a man. He is not a winger. Id much rather see Sporle given a run in the team as a winger than the hapless Mcmullan. PM should've been shown the door under Laslo. Running about like a headless chicken  doesn't make him a good player, We shouldn't be confusing effort with ability.

 
One of McMullan's strongest traits is beating a man. Not sure what games you've been watching. Its his final ball thats the problem 😂

 

02/8/2020 8:40 am  #34


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Billy_Hainey wrote:

Bizarre to think the gehm is only 10 mins walk up the road, but here we are watching it fae the hoose. Utterly phuckin weird if I'm honest.

Connolly was a tad unlucky. He, as he was supposed to, prevented the ba fae going toward the goal mouth. Yeah fowk are right. He didna hit the ba square enough and Craig was fortunate to be there to wallop it in.

Woulda been happier we the 3 points, but as a couple have sayed, the equaliser knocked us back a bit, but yeah we 10 men, we shoulda ta'en mair advantage oe them.

We were the better team, there's no doubt, we had the better oe the play, but the Johnies defended well. But in the 2nd half, Shanks and Coark never really got enough oe the ba and there were mair than enough nearies. The last 10 mins we definitely had the edge on them, and I thought we might just dae it.

It was a bit of eye opener for a lot oe us, and the lads themselves, to what we're gonna be up against this Season.

MOM for me Robson.

 
Agree mate. I feel like Shanks would have benefited from Pawlett and Clark being replaced by Smith and Appere around the hour mark. NC/PP had good first halfs but faded in the 2nd.

 

02/8/2020 8:59 am  #35


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LarsErikKjell wrote:

Marklandsvelvettouch wrote:

Swing_kinker wrote:

McMullan coming back will be a boost, I don't get why some don't rate him but hey it's all about opinions. He takes a man on and is always looking to attack. Him and Bolton on the wings could cause some rea lhavoc

 
Mcmullan rarely ever beats a man. He is not a winger. Id much rather see Sporle given a run in the team as a winger than the hapless Mcmullan. PM should've been shown the door under Laslo. Running about like a headless chicken  doesn't make him a good player, We shouldn't be confusing effort with ability.

 
One of McMullan's strongest traits is beating a man. Not sure what games you've been watching. Its his final ball thats the problem 😂

 I'd disagree. He can't dribble and is not a jinky wee winger. He tries hard but he's not good enough. He has struggled to be of Championship quality over his years with us. I've no idea what games you've been watching if you believe mcmullan's strongest trait is beating a man. Possibly the same games the wee tartan suit modeller at Gorgie watched when he proclaimed that Billy King was a goalscorer. We clearly see games differently. I see PM as a very poor player.

 

02/8/2020 9:09 am  #36


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Connolly cannot be defended for what he did yesterday, good game prior or post his brain fart it was still a major fuck up from him and cost us three points.

I was not too worried about the lack of signings prior to the outcome of the court case but that is nine days since the decision was made that we were to be playing in the premier, players should have been lined up to sign pending our league status.

We cannot go into the rest of this season with our only experienced centre halfs being -

1, a  slow 33 year old
2, a bomb scare
3, a holding midfielder

I can rant for hours but it's only the first game so I'll leave it at that.

 

02/8/2020 9:13 am  #37


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Rocky Raccoon wrote:

Connolly cannot be defended for what he did yesterday, good game prior or post his brain fart it was still a major fuck up from him and cost us three points.

I was not too worried about the lack of signings prior to the outcome of the court case but that is nine days since the decision was made that we were to be playing in the premier, players should have been lined up to sign pending our league status.

We cannot go into the rest of this season with our only experienced centre halfs being -

1, a  slow 33 year old
2, a bomb scare
3, a holding midfielder

I can rant for hours but it's only the first game so I'll leave it at that.

 Spot on. I dread to think what might happen to us at Celtic Park and ibrox if we don't get good signings in.

 

02/8/2020 9:26 am  #38


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On a depressing day I've got to say I enjoyed hearing Mellon and Davidson barking their instructions to players on TV. I'm sure I heard Mellon utter a ffs we're playing against ten men and his utterances about whether it was Ohalloran or MM that was trying to get ohalloran sent off were comedy gold.

 

02/8/2020 10:08 am  #39


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LarsErikKjell wrote:

Shakey Isles Arab wrote:

Lot of good things and I don't want to pick on a negative,  but . ...

Connolly.

Sorry son you've been a great clubman,  you play with your heart on your sleeve mate, but you're a fuckin liability.

   - - - -

Take a look back 2 seasons at St Mirren 2nd leg where Connolly's woeful challenge cost us promotion .

He was a liability then.


Get rid of Connolly  .
Get a CB in who knows how to get rid of the ba'.

  - - - - - -

And while I'm about it I'm fed up hearing this "early doors" shite.
. ... I've got news, the season's underway.

  - - - - - -

Phukin weird atmosphere.

 

Disagree re Connolly. Bad mistake for the goal, but that ball could have fuckin anywhere. Just unlucky it landed right on the lads left foot. He's not a liability in my opinion.

He was excellent for the other 89 minutes of the game. I dont want us to 'get rid' of him tbh.

Tek's summary of the game is spot on. Some positives, some negatives, plenty to be excited about, plenty to work on.

 
I completely agree. I was one of Connolly's biggest critics last season but after watching the full game on alba last night I thought he had an excellent game last night apart from two poor moments. He had one poor pass out that went straight to the opposition but fizzled out, and his poor clearance that led to the goal. Looked to me like he was attempting to knock it behind but got an unfortunate connection, it was caught perfectly by Craig and keeper had no chance. We looked rusty at times but to be expected. I saw us play much worse than that on several occasions last season and I'm not despairing just yet.

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02/8/2020 11:31 am  #40


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Thought we were very good in the first half. Players well up for it and played some good stuff. Passing , positioning and aggression were impressive. Jamie Robson in particular was excellent.

Nothing like as good overall in the second but some good spells. Stand out was probably Bolton when he came on. Looks promising.

Overall I am fairly satisfied and definitely think we have a much better manager in place now.

PS very disappointing error fae Connolly, wtf was he thinking about. Still say we need two quality central defenders in, urgently.

 

02/8/2020 11:46 am  #41


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I'm saying it over the road (Mad) too, don't blame Connolly. It was a defensive punt that could have gone anywhere & indeed did & found Craig unmarked who took it very well. I agree with your other points TD, Robson excellent, Bolton exciting, starting him instead of Neilson could have been interesting tho no way I'm blaming MM for team selection who put down a marker for any young uns who feel like breaking thro. Sorry TD you're not gonna get two CH's in so have faith in the two Marks, they were very comfortable y'day & yeah I know we have to go to Porkheid but so must they all. Having said that there's rumour of one coming tho I hope that doesn't stifle Ross Graham's progress, is he the new Narey? Harkes geting better all the time, contract extension please.
 

 

02/8/2020 11:49 am  #42


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smedDUm wrote:

I'm saying it over the road (Mad) too, don't blame Connolly. It was a defensive punt that could have gone anywhere & indeed did & found Craig unmarked who took it very well. I agree with your other points TD, Robson excellent, Bolton exciting, starting him instead of Neilson could have been interesting tho no way I'm blaming MM for team selection who put down a marker for any young uns who feel like breaking thro. Sorry TD you're not gonna get two CH's in so have faith in the two Marks, they were very comfortable y'day & yeah I know we have to go to Porkheid but so must they all. Having said that there's rumour of one coming tho I hope that doesn't stifle Ross Graham's progress, is he the new Narey? Harkes geting better all the time, contract extension please.
 

 
Harkes just signed a contract extension.

 

02/8/2020 11:54 am  #43


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Snacks94 wrote:

smedDUm wrote:

I'm saying it over the road (Mad) too, don't blame Connolly. It was a defensive punt that could have gone anywhere & indeed did & found Craig unmarked who took it very well. I agree with your other points TD, Robson excellent, Bolton exciting, starting him instead of Neilson could have been interesting tho no way I'm blaming MM for team selection who put down a marker for any young uns who feel like breaking thro. Sorry TD you're not gonna get two CH's in so have faith in the two Marks, they were very comfortable y'day & yeah I know we have to go to Porkheid but so must they all. Having said that there's rumour of one coming tho I hope that doesn't stifle Ross Graham's progress, is he the new Narey? Harkes geting better all the time, contract extension please.
 

 
Harkes just signed a contract extension.

Has he? Sorry. Just pointing out he's an asset & can & will only get better. He was everywhere y'day, amazing number of touches he must have had.
 

 

02/8/2020 12:59 pm  #44


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smedDUm wrote:

I'm saying it over the road (Mad) too, don't blame Connolly. It was a defensive punt that could have gone anywhere & indeed did & found Craig unmarked who took it very well. I agree with your other points TD, Robson excellent, Bolton exciting, starting him instead of Neilson could have been interesting tho no way I'm blaming MM for team selection who put down a marker for any young uns who feel like breaking thro. Sorry TD you're not gonna get two CH's in so have faith in the two Marks, they were very comfortable y'day & yeah I know we have to go to Porkheid but so must they all. Having said that there's rumour of one coming tho I hope that doesn't stifle Ross Graham's progress, is he the new Narey? Harkes geting better all the time, contract extension please.
 

 
You don’t blame him but “it was a defensive punt that could have gone anywhere”. That’s exactly why he deserves the blame for it, that’s not how you defend.  Schoolboy stuff.

 

02/8/2020 1:19 pm  #45


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TheShed wrote:

smedDUm wrote:

I'm saying it over the road (Mad) too, don't blame Connolly. It was a defensive punt that could have gone anywhere & indeed did & found Craig unmarked who took it very well. I agree with your other points TD, Robson excellent, Bolton exciting, starting him instead of Neilson could have been interesting tho no way I'm blaming MM for team selection who put down a marker for any young uns who feel like breaking thro. Sorry TD you're not gonna get two CH's in so have faith in the two Marks, they were very comfortable y'day & yeah I know we have to go to Porkheid but so must they all. Having said that there's rumour of one coming tho I hope that doesn't stifle Ross Graham's progress, is he the new Narey? Harkes geting better all the time, contract extension please.
 

 
You don’t blame him but “it was a defensive punt that could have gone anywhere”. That’s exactly why he deserves the blame for it, that’s not how you defend.  Schoolboy stuff.

 
I'd say you're being harsh. Connolly looked completely assured throughout the game and won every header he contested. His distribution apart from one misplaced pass was also fine. If he never made any mistakes he'd probably not be at United in the first place. People need to realise the level of football in Scotland is not that great whether we like it or not, and flawless defenders are going to be a rare commodity at our level. I'm absolutely certain he wasn't intending for the ball to end up where it did and was absolutely raging at himself. If it happens at the other end of the park and a striker sclaffs the ball into the stand instead of the net, he won't be getting the slating that Connolly is. I'm happy enough with how the team performed yesterday and sharpness will come.

 

02/8/2020 2:00 pm  #46


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Arabdownsouth wrote:

TheShed wrote:

smedDUm wrote:

I'm saying it over the road (Mad) too, don't blame Connolly. It was a defensive punt that could have gone anywhere & indeed did & found Craig unmarked who took it very well. I agree with your other points TD, Robson excellent, Bolton exciting, starting him instead of Neilson could have been interesting tho no way I'm blaming MM for team selection who put down a marker for any young uns who feel like breaking thro. Sorry TD you're not gonna get two CH's in so have faith in the two Marks, they were very comfortable y'day & yeah I know we have to go to Porkheid but so must they all. Having said that there's rumour of one coming tho I hope that doesn't stifle Ross Graham's progress, is he the new Narey? Harkes geting better all the time, contract extension please.
 

 
You don’t blame him but “it was a defensive punt that could have gone anywhere”. That’s exactly why he deserves the blame for it, that’s not how you defend.  Schoolboy stuff.

 
I'd say you're being harsh. Connolly looked completely assured throughout the game and won every header he contested. His distribution apart from one misplaced pass was also fine. If he never made any mistakes he'd probably not be at United in the first place. People need to realise the level of football in Scotland is not that great whether we like it or not, and flawless defenders are going to be a rare commodity at our level. I'm absolutely certain he wasn't intending for the ball to end up where it did and was absolutely raging at himself. If it happens at the other end of the park and a striker sclaffs the ball into the stand instead of the net, he won't be getting the slating that Connolly is. I'm happy enough with how the team performed yesterday and sharpness will come.

 
For the majority of the game he was fine, but that that one incident I am being far from harsh, he hooked a ball over into the middle of the box!!! It should have been hooked over the shed roof at worst.

 

02/8/2020 2:06 pm  #47


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TheShed wrote:

Arabdownsouth wrote:

TheShed wrote:


 
You don’t blame him but “it was a defensive punt that could have gone anywhere”. That’s exactly why he deserves the blame for it, that’s not how you defend.  Schoolboy stuff.

 
I'd say you're being harsh. Connolly looked completely assured throughout the game and won every header he contested. His distribution apart from one misplaced pass was also fine. If he never made any mistakes he'd probably not be at United in the first place. People need to realise the level of football in Scotland is not that great whether we like it or not, and flawless defenders are going to be a rare commodity at our level. I'm absolutely certain he wasn't intending for the ball to end up where it did and was absolutely raging at himself. If it happens at the other end of the park and a striker sclaffs the ball into the stand instead of the net, he won't be getting the slating that Connolly is. I'm happy enough with how the team performed yesterday and sharpness will come.

 
For the majority of the game he was fine, but that that one incident I am being far from harsh, he hooked a ball over into the middle of the box!!! It should have been hooked over the shed roof at worst.

 
You've not really paid much attention to the rest of my post then

 

02/8/2020 3:44 pm  #48


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Marklandsvelvettouch wrote:

On a depressing day I've got to say I enjoyed hearing Mellon and Davidson barking their instructions to players on TV. I'm sure I heard Mellon utter a ffs we're playing against ten men and his utterances about whether it was Ohalloran or MM that was trying to get ohalloran sent off were comedy gold.

 
Come on mate it was hardly 'depressing'??

Our first game back in the top league in 4 years after the shambles that was the Jackie/Mixu/Ray/Csaba era.

Football FINALLY back after the lockdown.

Avoided the potential Null and Void outcome and then the whole Court case nightmare.

I was absolutely delighted to see my team back. Delighted to be sitting watching our Premiership team mixing it well with a team consistently in the top 6 numerous seasons on the bounce.

If yesterday was depressing for you then you are in for a fucking nightmare of a season bud.

 

02/8/2020 3:47 pm  #49


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It was a kind of Mark Kerr moment without the same importance. Connolly only made 2 errors in the entire match and it cost 2 points BUT where was the tracking on Craig? Was it Butcher or Harkes that should’ve picked him up? Just as culpable in my book.

 

02/8/2020 4:01 pm  #50


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Nommi57 wrote:

Guys gen up i would never play connoly again not just  cause of yesterday there are some on hear suggesting cause of the state of scots fitba we will have to accept what we have what utter pap, ive mentioned him  before so ill mention him again tam obrien Arbroath.

 
Disagree. Two clear mistakes (that were actually just mis-kicks) that led to goals in an 18 month period is probably a normal return for a centre half. Im not sayin its great, and if we bring in a centre half that is better than him and takes his place, fine by me, but you cant possibly say he should never play for us again. I've said from minute 1 of us being promoted that I have no problem with him being in our squad this season and I stand by that. He is a leader and this club means a lot to him. He deserves a bit of respect from some fans in my opinion.

Look at some of the shite we've had down the years at centre half.

Edjenguele
Van der struijk
Paul Quinn
Coll Donaldson
Mark Durnan
Gavin Gunning (2016)
Ryan McGowan
Tam Scobbie
Lewis Toshney

Would anyone pick a single one of them over Mark Connolly? Would they fuck.

 

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