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Alan Temple of the Courier writing that the club want Levein as manager till the seasons end.
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If true, a brave and risky appointment. A manager who's best days appeared to be behind him, but who has so much to prove.
If it's to be Craig, I'm confident he will unite every single United supporter to a man.
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Canadian Arab wrote:
AlwaysUnited wrote:
If true, a brave and risky appointment. A manager who's best days appeared to be behind him, but who has so much to prove.
If it's to be Craig, I'm confident he will unite every single United supporter to a man.Nonsense. It's less risky than virtually any other appointment that could be made. We know how Levein works, and we know that his approach is exactly what's required at this time.
That's a bullish statement to make. He was last here 13 years ago and was dismissed from his last managerial position with Hearts in freefall. Football has changed since he was last here, personnel and budgets have changed, and maybe he has changed too.
That being said - if it is to be Craig, it's the duty of every United fan to back him to the hilt, starting with a huge crowd on Saturday.
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The first thing CL would do is send that Aussie keeper shopping with his missus on Saturday night with instructions to let her carry the fucking bags.
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Get the gang back together, Houston in as assistant, Heggie as coach and Stevie Campbell in as head of youth. Roll it back to 09/10.
Would be much more comfortable with Levein running things than Jabba the Hut, even if we do drop into the Championship.
There’s no way Levein and Asghar’s egos can live together for very long, I suspect this is a way of phasing Asghar out. Ogren has said a lot of stupid things in the past week, but where I do have sympathy for him is in that for good or for bad, Asghar’s the only real contact he has in Scottish football, without him he wouldn’t Ken his arse from his elbow. So I can kind of understand him being unwilling to cut those ties and take the risk of putting someone in charge that he doesn’t know or trust.
Having Levein in the club for the next few months gives him the chance to build a relationship with him and maybe put trust in him as the man to take over from Asghar running the football side of the club moving forward.
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JerryDungle wrote:
Get the gang back together, Houston in as assistant, Heggie as coach and Stevie Campbell in as head of youth. Roll it back to 09/10.
Would be much more comfortable with Levein running things than Jabba the Hut, even if we do drop into the Championship.
There’s no way Levein and Asghar’s egos can live together for very long, I suspect this is a way of phasing Asghar out. Ogren has said a lot of stupid things in the past week, but where I do have sympathy for him is in that for good or for bad, Asghar’s the only real contact he has in Scottish football, without him he wouldn’t Ken his arse from his elbow. So I can kind of understand him being unwilling to cut those ties and take the risk of putting someone in charge that he doesn’t know or trust.
Having Levein in the club for the next few months gives him the chance to build a relationship with him and maybe put trust in him as the man to take over from Asghar running the football side of the club moving forward.
I can't imagine Levein working with Asghar for even one day tbqh.
Given his previous comments on Radio Scotland when asked about the vacant Manager's job.
So, either Levein will dismiss it out of hand (likely) or our Sporting Directors departure is imminent (less likely).
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AlwaysUnited wrote:
Canadian Arab wrote:
AlwaysUnited wrote:
If true, a brave and risky appointment. A manager who's best days appeared to be behind him, but who has so much to prove.
If it's to be Craig, I'm confident he will unite every single United supporter to a man.Nonsense. It's less risky than virtually any other appointment that could be made. We know how Levein works, and we know that his approach is exactly what's required at this time.
That's a bullish statement to make. He was last here 13 years ago and was dismissed from his last managerial position with Hearts in freefall. Football has changed since he was last here, personnel and budgets have changed, and maybe he has changed too.
That being said - if it is to be Craig, it's the duty of every United fan to back him to the hilt, starting with a huge crowd on Saturday.
To be fair Levein got the DoF thing all wrong rather than the manager role as he found it difficult to do both (despite pretty much doing that at United). At least at United he'd be working with the ultra-competent Tony Asghar covering the SD role. Won't happen anyway unless Tony goes though and they know this hence why leaking to the press (once again) stories they think will appease the fans. Levein will 'pull-out' as will a couple of other names they'll drop and finally after lots of trawling the world and soul-searching we'll appoint Charlie Mulgrew (as long as he's signed the NDA).
Also as a United fan can I just say that I have no duty to back the charlatans that have taken over my club.
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Nobody can seriously believe this is true.
How many times are they going to pull this trick ? The no stone left unturned one.
It's going to be Adam Ashgar or Stevie Crawford.
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CCX2 2010 wrote:
Nobody can seriously believe this is true.
How many times are they going to pull this trick ? The no stone left unturned one.
It's going to be Adam Ashgar or Stevie Crawford.
There would be riots if it's Asghar Jr. No chance of that happening, none at all.
I still think they might re-appoint Courts in the short term. Assuming he'd even want it.
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Finn Seemann wrote:
AlwaysUnited wrote:
Canadian Arab wrote:
Nonsense. It's less risky than virtually any other appointment that could be made. We know how Levein works, and we know that his approach is exactly what's required at this time.
That's a bullish statement to make. He was last here 13 years ago and was dismissed from his last managerial position with Hearts in freefall. Football has changed since he was last here, personnel and budgets have changed, and maybe he has changed too.
That being said - if it is to be Craig, it's the duty of every United fan to back him to the hilt, starting with a huge crowd on Saturday.To be fair Levein got the DoF thing all wrong rather than the manager role as he found it difficult to do both (despite pretty much doing that at United). At least at United he'd be working with the ultra-competent Tony Asghar covering the SD role. Won't happen anyway unless Tony goes though and they know this hence why leaking to the press (once again) stories they think will appease the fans. Levein will 'pull-out' as will a couple of other names they'll drop and finally after lots of trawling the world and soul-searching we'll appoint Charlie Mulgrew (as long as he's signed the NDA).
Also as a United fan can I just say that I have no duty to back the charlatans that have taken over my club.
I think you have to imagine it will be someone on the Tony contact list:
David Weir. MSD
Lee McCulloch MSD
Andy Goldie
Steve McClaren
Bearing in mind money will be an issue and two of them have worked with Tony recently, I think David Weir may be a shout.
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Tek wrote:
CCX2 2010 wrote:
Nobody can seriously believe this is true.
How many times are they going to pull this trick ? The no stone left unturned one.
It's going to be Adam Ashgar or Stevie Crawford.There would be riots if it's Asghar Jr. No chance of that happening, none at all.
I still think they might re-appoint Courts in the short term. Assuming he'd even want it.
I wouldn't put it past us mate, I genuinely wouldn't under our current leadership.
One thing I'm fairly certain on though after attending the DF podcast event the other week is that Levien would need some reassuring from current staff at the club. He didn't go into it but just said not under the current set up with certain people.
Courts in my opinion is no better than Crawford, Fox or Ashgsr jnr. All of these guys shouldn't even be setting the cones out at training.
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CCX2 2010 wrote:
Tek wrote:
CCX2 2010 wrote:
Nobody can seriously believe this is true.
How many times are they going to pull this trick ? The no stone left unturned one.
It's going to be Adam Ashgar or Stevie Crawford.There would be riots if it's Asghar Jr. No chance of that happening, none at all.
I still think they might re-appoint Courts in the short term. Assuming he'd even want it.
I wouldn't put it past us mate, I genuinely wouldn't under our current leadership.
One thing I'm fairly certain on though after attending the DF podcast event the other week is that Levien would need some reassuring from current staff at the club. He didn't go into it but just said not under the current set up with certain people.
Courts in my opinion is no better than Crawford, Fox or Ashgsr jnr. All of these guys shouldn't even be setting the cones out at training.
Unfair on Courts as he got us into Europe. Look where we are now
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Don't want to go too fat off piste but Courts last year was absolutely murder. Anyone who watched us know fine well we were marginally better than St Johnstone who finished 11th.
It papered over the cracks and look at where we are now.
I noticed that he ain't got another job since his return and I would imagine that few if anyone will fall for his bullshit jargon.
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Would take Craig levein in a heartbeat
Wouldn’t take any shite from this lost of losers
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Levein seems to be who we want
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I want to see Craig go in that dressing room and fling Mulgrew and Edwards aboot like a couple of trackies.
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I am not sure about this, maybe just to end of season then dof roll or head of academy?
He has a successful career as a pundit and looks to be enjoying his roll helping Brechin. Also had a few health scares? And what if we were to get relegated would he want to me the man who done that.
At the Gardyne he spoke of his warmth for ET. They had a close relationship. Would he work for a guy that can't spend two weeks or more in the country when we are really struggling. Does he need the stress? Do he need the money?
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If he's offered it he's not going to accept without talking to Ogren.
If so he's no in a position to do anything about signings till next silly season so signings become a moot point anyway.
If it happens he's best placed to get a f*** up existing squad where we do have talent albeit trying their utmost to hide it.
If he saves us he's got the nap hand talking to Ogren.
RC was worst I have ever seen, not just gutless and no playing for shirt but most players looked like they didn't want to be associated with damaged goods and just wanted season to end.
Lot of ifs there but lets hope it happens. Yesterday.
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A huge U-turn from me in that Ogren is the main problem not Asghar. Asghar has wanted Levein for a while now, first discussed when Neilson left then again shortly before Courts got the job.
Ogren has a structure that he now accepts is broken.
This was brought home in the last few days, irony is that the 'Smile' play currently showing at the Rep has resulted in Ogren finally getting what this club is about. A message from our legend in heaven indeed.
Levein would want a lot of control of the football side and would work with Tony. He also rates Mulgrew to mentor the young ones and develop fully into a proper coach. However without going into why Mulgrew may not be at the club at the end of this season.
Levein would want Tony to take on Scott Ogren's role, a big stumbling block as this man has more say than any of us know. It could still happen with Tony gone but that would mean Levein getting full control, I doubt Ogren would agree but you never know.
The deal is a goer but needs assurances and a step back from the Ogren's.
Depending on that decision, we'll either be on the quick road to big failure and Ogren sells and bolts, or the slow but steady ship to recovery. This could mean a drop to championship but followed by solid foundations being laid once and for all, albeit a few years of pain but worth it in my opinion as we will be a proud successful club again.
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Danzaa wrote:
A huge U-turn from me in that Ogren is the main problem not Asghar. Asghar has wanted Levein for a while now, first discussed when Neilson left then again shortly before Courts got the job.
Ogren has a structure that he now accepts is broken.
This was brought home in the last few days, irony is that the 'Smile' play currently showing at the Rep has resulted in Ogren finally getting what this club is about. A message from our legend in heaven indeed.
Levein would want a lot of control of the football side and would work with Tony. He also rates Mulgrew to mentor the young ones and develop fully into a proper coach. However without going into why Mulgrew may not be at the club at the end of this season.
Levein would want Tony to take on Scott Ogren's role, a big stumbling block as this man has more say than any of us know. It could still happen with Tony gone but that would mean Levein getting full control, I doubt Ogren would agree but you never know.
The deal is a goer but needs assurances and a step back from the Ogren's.
Depending on that decision, we'll either be on the quick road to big failure and Ogren sells and bolts, or the slow but steady ship to recovery. This could mean a drop to championship but followed by solid foundations being laid once and for all, albeit a few years of pain but worth it in my opinion as we will be a proud successful club again.
Great post mate, good to hear there is a possibility of this happening. If it means a slow rebuild then so be it, but this club needs to get its pride back again and we are all United in wanting this. The current bunch of lethargic fuckers could do with being made to run the gauntlet of club legends all kicking fuck out of them on the way through until they get what this club means to all of us!
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Few people saying Levein has agreed to come back, in what capacity exactly I don’t know - but if he’s here long term and has the full run of the club then that’s a positive for me. Relegation still seems inevitable sadly but at least it looks like we may have a plan at last.
Love to see us back playing like we did under CL the first time, fitness levels through the roof, dangerous at set pieces, 2 up front, actual wingers, argumentative and everyone together fighting for everything.
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A lot of tangerine tinted spec wearing above. I'd also welcome Levein as he'd be far better than the dross management we've suffered for the last 3 years and if it was a sign of TAs role being diminished (even if not gone completely) with the Ogren's at last listening to someone who knows what they are doing then its a massive step forward. However, I genuinely don't see this being sorted until Asghar has gone. On paper Jack Ross was a good hire, but the first sign of trouble and Asghar etc. threw him under the bus. I was always fearful that Ross hadn't actually properly set out his stall in terms of the control he required and it became evident that he hadn't and didn't have the squad on side or results to challenge Tony. I'd hope Levein is a bit smarter, but he has to do his deal with Ogren not Asghar.
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This move can only happen if Asghar is removed from the Sporting Director role.
And he can't be moved 'upstairs' either.
It's time for his exit. And that and that only should satisfy the support.
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Tek wrote:
This move can only happen if Asghar is removed from the Sporting Director role.
And he can't be moved 'upstairs' either.
It's time for his exit. And that and that only should satisfy the support.
it can and it will
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Tek wrote:
This move can only happen if Asghar is removed from the Sporting Director role.
And he can't be moved 'upstairs' either.
It's time for his exit. And that and that only should satisfy the support.
I think we all expect Tony to leave soon. Possibly within 24 hours. I just hope giving the fans what they want pays dividends.