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17/8/2022 9:07 am  #976


Re: Summer Transfer Window

Was reliably informed that we had considered our business done.  That may be being re-assessed, but that also likely means more out before any in.

 

17/8/2022 9:07 am  #977


Re: Summer Transfer Window

Finn Seemann wrote:

Was reliably informed that we had considered our business done.  That may be being re-assessed, but that also likely means more out before any in.

Worrying given the still obvious lack of a ball winner.

Oops quoted rather than edited!  

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17/8/2022 9:46 am  #978


Re: Summer Transfer Window

Finn Seemann wrote:

Was reliably informed that we had considered our business done.  That may be being re-assessed, but that also likely means more out before any in.

 
Yip. I would be surprised if we brought in anyone else.

 

17/8/2022 12:18 pm  #979


Re: Summer Transfer Window

I think we still need to strengthen in the center back area and also a hardman (if you are still allowed to say that) in the middle.

More than anything though we need time, we signed far too late and the guys are still learning how to play with each other.

That falls squarely at the feet of the recruitment department and results reflect it in both the preseason and the three league games.

The late accusistions have clearly played a part to is being pumped in Europe and a poor of a start to the league campaign albeit we are are only three games in the performances, sadly have been very predictable.

 

17/8/2022 12:35 pm  #980


Re: Summer Transfer Window

Tin Hat on but is Gogic still a free agent?  Might be an option as a defensive midfielder that can also play and Ross has signed him before?

The timing of our signings is a frustration but I wonder how much of it had to do with JR deciding not to move on some of the targets TC set and how much of it was our leadership team not moving quick enough to secure signings.

 

17/8/2022 1:33 pm  #981


Re: Summer Transfer Window

Not sure if he's an attacking mid or a defensive mid or just a mid mid but I like Archie Meekison.

 

17/8/2022 5:54 pm  #982


Re: Summer Transfer Window

Still wondering if this tie-in with Fulham will produce any players we need on loan.!

 

17/8/2022 6:13 pm  #983


Re: Summer Transfer Window

Jedi u-Knighted wrote:

Still wondering if this tie-in with Fulham will produce any players we need on loan.!

On the nail m8. Another barmy idea.
 

 

17/8/2022 7:56 pm  #984


Re: Summer Transfer Window

Lancashire-Arab wrote:

Tin Hat on but is Gogic still a free agent?  Might be an option as a defensive midfielder that can also play and Ross has signed him before?

The timing of our signings is a frustration but I wonder how much of it had to do with JR deciding not to move on some of the targets TC set and how much of it was our leadership team not moving quick enough to secure signings.

 
No tin hat required, that's the sort we need.

What we most certainly don't require is another international scouting trip trying to unearth a defensive midfielder from the other side of the world.

Our timing of recruitment has imo cost us already this season and time is not our friend.

 

18/8/2022 8:39 am  #985


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Clearly what has happened is that Ross has taken a look at what Courts had lined up and didn't fancy it.  That seems to include Gogic and the boy Tiffany from Thistle and probably others.  I think that probably means that Gogic is unlikely to agree to join when Ross clearly doesn't rate him.  Although, on both sides, perhaps beggars can't be choosers.

So if we have to move people out, who?  Presumably there is an off the wage bill aspect or fee aspect but I can't see many falling into the latter.  Pawlett and Clark seem to me the two older players least likely to get game time, although the former appears to be unlikely to move on whilst injured.  The other options appear to be 'youngsters' or Harkes.  We may move on some of the youngsters.  Chalmers seems the most obvious and must be in last chance saloon anyway.  Harkes presumably didn't get sufficient interest from others before he re-signed and anyone who was interested would presumably just sign him on a pre in January.

Presumably out of all of the above Clark is the most likely to save us some cash (albeit we'd presumably need to cut a deal as he's probably heading to the Championship at best).  He's also been our top goalscorer for the last 2/3 seasons.  So do we cut him out and go grovelling back to Gogic or find another 'enforcer'?

I like Clark, but I don't think Ross is going to play any sort of football that he would thrive in, so for me I'd cut him a deal and grovel.

I guess as another option we look to move on potential saleable assets earlier than perhaps planned?  Graham or Cudjoe might net us a worthwhile fee and future add ons?  Then there is always the Noel Hunt/Harry Souttar money....

Last edited by Finn Seemann (18/8/2022 8:43 am)

 

18/8/2022 6:25 pm  #986


Re: Summer Transfer Window

Sums up our recruitment when our 36 year old centre half is having to play CDM for us, shambles

 

18/8/2022 10:49 pm  #987


Re: Summer Transfer Window

SuperMario wrote:

Sums up our recruitment when our 36 year old centre half is having to play CDM for us, shambles

Exactly
 

Last edited by Shakey Isles Arab (18/8/2022 10:49 pm)

 

19/8/2022 8:35 am  #988


Re: Summer Transfer Window

SuperMario wrote:

Sums up our recruitment when our 36 year old centre half is having to play CDM for us, shambles

It does indeed.  He clearly doesn't have the mobility required for the role either.  I'd like to know what people were thinking, firstly in thinking that we didn't need a CDM and then watching us and not noticing the massive amount of space between our midfield and defence in the central area.  It was evident for all of the first AZ game and clearly exploited for all of the second.  Presumably Apple haven't brought out a fix for that glitch as yet...

 

19/8/2022 9:40 am  #989


Re: Summer Transfer Window

Scott Burns saying Gogic in talks with St Mirren to return on a 2 year deal. Should we be trying to gazump that ?

 

19/8/2022 9:57 am  #990


Re: Summer Transfer Window

You have to think that there will be other options kicking around too.  We're really only looking for a couple of Paul Paton/John Rankin types.  Not world beaters, just boys with decent positional sense and a tackle.  With Sibbald, Levitt and McGrath we have plenty who can play nice football.

If you look at the stats of the young lad Kenneh that has recently joined Hibs that is what we need.  

 

20/8/2022 4:03 pm  #991


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If ever there was a team that needed a CDM

 

20/8/2022 4:56 pm  #992


Re: Summer Transfer Window

Complete and utter shambles of a window

 

20/8/2022 5:02 pm  #993


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Tony, when are we going to get a team where there is a player for every position?  Every season you’ve been here we have holes in the squad. Sort it out or F off and leave to someone who knows what they are doing.

 

20/8/2022 5:05 pm  #994


Re: Summer Transfer Window

Paid money for, niskanen, both goalkeepers, watt, Middleton and mcmann, never mind the obese wages most of this squad will be on

Money well spent tony

Doomed.

 

20/8/2022 5:33 pm  #995


Re: Summer Transfer Window

SuperMario wrote:

Paid money for, niskanen, both goalkeepers, watt, Middleton and mcmann, never mind the obese wages most of this squad will be on

Money well spent tony

Doomed.

Add in the imminent Jack Ross pay off money and it’s a fair skelp spent on absolutely nothing of value. 
 


It's not where you're from it's where you're at.
 

21/8/2022 2:42 am  #996


Re: Summer Transfer Window

SuperMario wrote:

Paid money for, niskanen, both goalkeepers, watt, Middleton and mcmann, never mind the obese wages most of this squad will be on

Money well spent tony

Doomed.

Both Aussies look absolutely shite, will be on good money and are contracted for years.

Fletcher looks finished and will doubtless be on about 4k a week.

Tony (1 goal in 25 games) Watt 100k transfer fee and will be on about 4/5k a week

Harkes on 5k a week

McGrath will be on a fair whack

Fees paid for McMann, Watt, Eriksson, Birighitti, Niskanen, Middleton.

He is spending a fortune and amassing a completely imbalanced and impotent squad.

This is not sustainable. 
 

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21/8/2022 3:48 am  #997


Re: Summer Transfer Window

PSV paid 4 million for Behich and he was gone after less than a year.


It's not where you're from it's where you're at.
 

21/8/2022 9:08 am  #998


Re: Summer Transfer Window

Surely, anyone watching our performances this season can see we are crying out for a reliable keeper and a defensive central midfielder?

It's so obvious. 

Zander Clark is without a club, get him signed ASAP, as well as an actual replacement for Jeando Fuchs

 

21/8/2022 2:00 pm  #999


Re: Summer Transfer Window

kiwiarab wrote:

Surely, anyone watching our performances this season can see we are crying out for a reliable keeper and a defensive central midfielder?

It's so obvious. 

Zander Clark is without a club, get him signed ASAP, as well as an actual replacement for Jeando Fuchs

 
Those two positions as you say are critical if we hope to have a decent season.

The keeper situation that we are in reminds a bit of 15/16 season when we had no idea which one of our keepers was the least worst. We all know how it worked out.

No more unnecessary gambles please trying  to unearth talent from the other side of the world.

The Ogrens must also be seriously reviewing our current set up and in particular Ashgars position,  we are wasting time money and effort signing all of these lads from around the globe when we have decent quality in our own country. In his interview earlier this season he admitted to making a few mistakes but recently these are multiplying and becoming far too frequent.

 

21/8/2022 2:51 pm  #1000


Re: Summer Transfer Window

CCX2 2010 wrote:

kiwiarab wrote:

Surely, anyone watching our performances this season can see we are crying out for a reliable keeper and a defensive central midfielder?

It's so obvious. 

Zander Clark is without a club, get him signed ASAP, as well as an actual replacement for Jeando Fuchs

 
Those two positions as you say are critical if we hope to have a decent season.

The keeper situation that we are in reminds a bit of 15/16 season when we had no idea which one of our keepers was the least worst. We all know how it worked out.

No more unnecessary gambles please trying  to unearth talent from the other side of the world.

The Ogrens must also be seriously reviewing our current set up and in particular Ashgars position,  we are wasting time money and effort signing all of these lads from around the globe when we have decent quality in our own country. In his interview earlier this season he admitted to making a few mistakes but recently these are multiplying and becoming far too frequent.

 

Obviously it is far too early to press the panic button, but, I don’t think the Ogren’s have a “B” plan. They are already £10 million in the hole, but, have made it perfectly clear that Asghar is running the show. In fact, it was conditional on the purchase of the club, that Asghar would run it.

FWIW, most of us didn’t rate the Court’s appointment, but, were proved wrong. Pretty much everyone thought JR’s appointment was a good one, but, thus far the season has been hellish.

As someone else pointed out, why did Courts and Mellon depart? It may well be our model for running the club puts too many constraints on the manager.

 

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