lifesanocean wrote:

blackandtangerine wrote:

lifesanocean wrote:

Think people are being very harsh on Connolly and Reynolds. I thought they did well last night against the aforementioned Ikpeazu who is a real handful but they dealt with his physicality well but also Connor Washington who was a regular for QPR for many years, plays up front for Northern Ireland, including all 4 games in Euro 2016. We'll not face that quality again this season, especially with Walker, Smith and Mulraney supplying them.

The goal we scored was fantastic as well.

However, Bouhenna was absolutely stinking, either giving the ball or getting caught on it, virtually every time he had it. The few occasions when he didn't lose it he usually took the easy option when we were breaking and passed it backwards, killing any momentum we had. He looked exactly what he is; a centre half playing in midfield. Its one thing strolling it against trialists and workies at Brechin, totally different against a Premiership team who are closing you down, in those conditions.

Nicky Clark was almost as bad, but could at least say he had a hand in the goal and getting the boy sent off. Cammy Smith must be fucking horrendous in training or something to never be given a chance. I worry that Shankland and Clark together lack work rate and mobility . Cammy would give us that.

The two young lads were excellent. Appere is built for the Championship and Smith was positive every time he had the ball and never once took the safe option. The worry is Neilson knocks that out of him.

I think appere would do a very good job in our league. I'd like to see him and shankland play together as a proper striker partnership in a couple of our league cup games.
 

Agreed. They'd be a real handful.
 

 
It looks like Apperes half season in the juniors playing men's football has toughened him up

Folk need to remember we started without 3 or 4 guaranteed starters. I agree that it is impossible to dispute that we were second best but us aside, not one team in this division goes to Tynecastle and gets a draw I don’t think.

TheShed wrote:

kingdomarab wrote:

Folk need to remember we started without 3 or 4 guaranteed starters. I agree that it is impossible to dispute that we were second best but us aside, not one team in this division goes to Tynecastle and gets a draw I don’t think.

 
I’m not seeing how we started without 3 or 4 guaranteed starters

 
Really?

Butcher starts over Bouhenna everyday of the week.
Harkes is superior to Stanton
Pawlett starts if fit.
Toss up between Sow and Clark, based on pre season and last night Sow gets the nod from me.

Regardless of people’s opinion on Sow, there is 3 players there at least that make the eleven if everyone is fit.

kingdomarab wrote:

TheShed wrote:

kingdomarab wrote:

Folk need to remember we started without 3 or 4 guaranteed starters. I agree that it is impossible to dispute that we were second best but us aside, not one team in this division goes to Tynecastle and gets a draw I don’t think.

 
I’m not seeing how we started without 3 or 4 guaranteed starters

 
Really?

Butcher starts over Bouhenna everyday of the week.
Harkes is superior to Stanton
Pawlett starts if fit.
Toss up between Sow and Clark, based on pre season and last night Sow gets the nod from me.

Regardless of people’s opinion on Sow, there is 3 players there at least that make the eleven if everyone is fit.

 
None of the players you’ve mentioned are good enough to be a guaranteed starter.  Not one.

Tek wrote:

kingdomarab wrote:

TheShed wrote:

 
I’m not seeing how we started without 3 or 4 guaranteed starters

 
Really?

Butcher starts over Bouhenna everyday of the week.
Harkes is superior to Stanton
Pawlett starts if fit.
Toss up between Sow and Clark, based on pre season and last night Sow gets the nod from me.

Regardless of people’s opinion on Sow, there is 3 players there at least that make the eleven if everyone is fit.

For perspective Hearts were also without Naismith, Haring, MacLean, Cochrane, Lee, Wighton, Morrison, Whyte and Clev.

We were ok last night. But there is much to work on.
 

 
I know, just offering some perspective for the people who want another 4 or 5 signings.

TheShed wrote:

kingdomarab wrote:

TheShed wrote:

 
None of the players you’ve mentioned are good enough to be a guaranteed starter.  Not one.

 
You can’t genuinely believe that. We won 1 (one) game in the second half of last season of the 4 games butcher didn’t start. We lost 2 of the over 15 games he did play in.

I like to engage in debate but if you think Pawlett and Butcher at a minimum wouldn’t start if fit then I think it might be a futile exercise.

 
The only guaranteed starters we have are Siegriest (unfortunately), Smith, Reynolds, Connolly, Shankland & McMullan (due to having no other creativity).  We do not have anybody in the midfield area that has done enough to be classed as a guaranteed starter.

What has Pawlett done in a United jersey to be guaranteed a start?

 
I’m not talking about Pawlett’s contribution (or lack thereof) for us, but if he is fit then he is 100% going to start due to the high wage he’ll be on and his potential to perform really well if fit.

TheShed wrote:

kingdomarab wrote:

TheShed wrote:

 
The only guaranteed starters we have are Siegriest (unfortunately), Smith, Reynolds, Connolly, Shankland & McMullan (due to having no other creativity).  We do not have anybody in the midfield area that has done enough to be classed as a guaranteed starter.

What has Pawlett done in a United jersey to be guaranteed a start?

 
I’m not talking about Pawlett’s contribution (or lack thereof) for us, but if he is fit then he is 100% going to start due to the high wage he’ll be on and his potential to perform really well if fit.

 
Guaranteed a start because of his wage and potential.  Really?  But ignore his lack of form? Really?

 
I’m not ignoring his form, but it’s clear that the manager was when he was being picked regardless of form. He’s yet to be fully fit but he’s shown at a higher level previously how good he is and age is still on his side. If RN has the choice between Jamie Robson and Peter Pawlett on the left wing I think it’s an easy choice to go with the latter.

TheShed wrote:

kingdomarab wrote:

TheShed wrote:

 
None of the players you’ve mentioned are good enough to be a guaranteed starter.  Not one.

 
You can’t genuinely believe that. We won 1 (one) game in the second half of last season of the 4 games butcher didn’t start. We lost 2 of the over 15 games he did play in.

I like to engage in debate but if you think Pawlett and Butcher at a minimum wouldn’t start if fit then I think it might be a futile exercise.

 
The only guaranteed starters we have are Siegriest (unfortunately), Smith, Reynolds, Connolly, Shankland & McMullan (due to having no other creativity).  We do not have anybody in the midfield area that has done enough to be classed as a guaranteed starter.

What has Pawlett done in a United jersey to be guaranteed a start?

 
You say unfortunately Ref: Seigrist. I’m not denying he’s made mistakes but he’s made a lot more vital saves than mistakes in the last 10-15 games. Time for people to give him a proper chance based on recent performances.

Lilley01 wrote:

TheShed wrote:

kingdomarab wrote:

 
You can’t genuinely believe that. We won 1 (one) game in the second half of last season of the 4 games butcher didn’t start. We lost 2 of the over 15 games he did play in.

I like to engage in debate but if you think Pawlett and Butcher at a minimum wouldn’t start if fit then I think it might be a futile exercise.

 
The only guaranteed starters we have are Siegriest (unfortunately), Smith, Reynolds, Connolly, Shankland & McMullan (due to having no other creativity).  We do not have anybody in the midfield area that has done enough to be classed as a guaranteed starter.

What has Pawlett done in a United jersey to be guaranteed a start?

 
You say unfortunately Ref: Seigrist. I’m not denying he’s made mistakes but he’s made a lot more vital saves than mistakes in the last 10-15 games. Time for people to give him a proper chance based on recent performances.

 
I’ll give him a chance, but I’d rather have far better.  There is far better out there.