I predict he will be away from Kilmarnock and Scotland soon unfortunately.

Nae fucking about from him well put.

To the football authorities his comments will be like a drop in the ocean. 

Nothing will change. Over a number of years I've communicated with United to elicit their stance on bigotry, the closest I ever got to a response was that it was a, quote', 'Celtic/Rangers thing'.

It isn't: it's an embarrassment to Scottish football and by extension Scotland itself.

To be honest, I thought the Killie keeper was a bit daft.  There is a wee bit of a movement towards the Rangers player that could be interpreted as intent, but nothing that would floor a grown man.  Should have been a couple of yellows at most and a ticking off for acting like a couple of f*nnies.

As for Clarke, he is a breath of fresh air in west coast football.  He should remember however that it is an equal world with no discrimination.  You're a F***** b****** one week and an Orange b******* the next.  You surely can't take offence at such equilibrium.

Maybe I've become enured to the Celtic Park and Ibrox refereeing bias.  Of course the Killie pen was a stonewaller.  However the keeper did move his elbow towards the Rangers player's head and whilst I don't think he was trying to do him, it gave the referee a decision to make.
On the subject of bigotry, it really is down to the 'silent' majority to sort it.  Thing with Rangers and to a lesser extent Celtic is that their traditional songbook is splattered with sectarian bile and everyone knows the words (whether they truly believe them or not). 
If Rangers are genuine then they should tell their players to stand back and concede a goal every time they hear sectarian songs being sung.  That would quickly change things.
However, with the tiny minority, it is deep-rooted.  When I moved to Glasgow years ago, I started a new job on the Monday to learn that the boss's son had been knifed to death walking back from a game at Celtic Park in Bridgeton.  Thankfully that was one idiot and most of Glasgow gets on with life regardless of what religion you are - but there is an undertone that comes out on a Saturday when that small minority get to put the colours of their bigotry on and are permitted to voice their bile.  That has to stop.

PatReilly wrote:

Spending quite a bit of my life, time and money in pubs, folk I am familiar with know to steer clear of the nasty/jokey bigotry as I am never impressed by it. But too many people of my acquaintance appear hard wired when it comes to their understanding of religion. To many of them, 'religion' is interchangeable with 'banter', and their concept of theology involves fucking an old man in the Vatican.

I actually don't disagree with this - my 'everyone knows the words' bit was intended to reflect that view.  Even in Dundee there is an under-current of 'which school did you go to?'.   An unspoken expectation that your either with the Pope or you are absolutely not.  There are historical reasons for this, absolutely, but they are older history than WWII and we seem to get on Ok with Germans, Japanese and Italians these days.  We need to move on in society.  For me that will only start when religion doesn't define what school you go to and therefore separates part of our population from the other and begins that distrust from the age of 4.  I don't consider myself atheist but neither am I religious.  I was 'born protestant' and that is part of the problem.  Religion, much like which football team you support is decided for you before you are even on the earth.  I like that with football, but not religion.  Tribalism is natural, but we have to accept that in 21st Century that it should just relate to your football team and not your or anyone else's religion or lack of religion.

Last edited by Finn Seemann (22/2/2019 10:33 am)

blackandtangerine wrote:

Religion is shite. End of.


Just a wee simplistic view from myself.

 
Simplistic maybe but 100% correct.