Tekel Towers » Mike Martin

Tangy · 19/12/2018 6:35 pm

I dont really want this to turn into a slanging match or insults to or about Mike...

It appears he did what he said he would do and at the same time, maybe rescued us from the abyss.

The 'baldy snake' was being driven out of the club by various groups but with no sign of a buyer, relations between the 2 became toxic.

Mike stepped in, bought the club and bought gussie park with the promise to sell it back to the club when it. would afford it, while letting the club continue to earn money from it.

He realised how toxic the relationship between the club and fans. He made several changes to help this while allowing the manager to invest in the team.

I think the only real negative in his time at the club was to not part ways with shabba in the summer however, I can't blame him for having a player. and sti king with it (we had failed miserably with the short term options- so probably worth trying).

He also hired a manager who has had a good start - so certainly plenty of positives. He also stated he wasn't there for the long term and would be seeking new owners.

Although I don't want a big love in for MM, I hope he will always be welcome at tannadice as a fan - I really think, in many ways, hes
saved the club from a lot more problems than we have faced

JerryDungle · 19/12/2018 6:45 pm

Aside from his decision to keep Csaba, I thought Mike Martin done a very steady job in difficult times as chairman. The hate he gets from some sectors is unfounded and unnecessary,

He asked to be judged on his actions, and I believe his actions were always done with the club’s best interests in mind.

Fair play MM.

bowers · 19/12/2018 7:46 pm

i wonder how much he made from the deal?

redford_must_score · 19/12/2018 7:56 pm

bowers wrote:
i wonder how much he made from the deal?

Looked to me he was trying to hide his glee during that interview, I'd say he's turned a few bob but that's just a guess.

blackandtangerine · 19/12/2018 7:57 pm

JerryDungle wrote:
Aside from his decision to keep Csaba, I thought Mike Martin done a very steady job in difficult times as chairman. The hate he gets from some sectors is unfounded and unnecessary,

He asked to be judged on his actions, and I believe his actions were always done with the club’s best interests in mind.

Fair play MM.

That's your opinion. Martin is just as culpable as thompson. You can chose your own opinion, a lot will differ.

19/12/2018 8:04 pm

bowers wrote:
i wonder how much he made from the deal?

and I wonder if any of the money he made made its way to 🐍tephen

JerryDungle · 19/12/2018 8:17 pm

blackandtangerine wrote:
JerryDungle wrote:
Aside from his decision to keep Csaba, I thought Mike Martin done a very steady job in difficult times as chairman. The hate he gets from some sectors is unfounded and unnecessary,

He asked to be judged on his actions, and I believe his actions were always done with the club’s best interests in mind.

Fair play MM.
That's your opinion. Martin is just as culpable as thompson. You can chose your own opinion, a lot will differ.

Do you know that he’s just as culpable as Thompson? Or is that just an assumption?

blackandtangerine · 19/12/2018 8:28 pm

JerryDungle wrote:
blackandtangerine wrote:
JerryDungle wrote:
Aside from his decision to keep Csaba, I thought Mike Martin done a very steady job in difficult times as chairman. The hate he gets from some sectors is unfounded and unnecessary,

He asked to be judged on his actions, and I believe his actions were always done with the club’s best interests in mind.

Fair play MM.
That's your opinion. Martin is just as culpable as thompson. You can chose your own opinion, a lot will differ.

Do you know that he’s just as culpable as Thompson? Or is that just an assumption?

I know. Had dealings while in the federation with thompson martin etc. Even spence called martin and mcgrory the Edinburgh mafia.
He's gone now so we move on. Not having an argument over it. Just my thoughts.

Beharder · 19/12/2018 8:31 pm

I hope he did make a few bob out of the deal. Put his money Into the club when the club was in need
Not many recent chairman have left the club in a better state than they found it.

redford_must_score · 19/12/2018 8:55 pm

Beharder wrote:
I hope he did make a few bob out of the deal. Put his money Into the club when the club was in need
Not many recent chairman have left the club in a better state than they found it.

Agreed. I've no problem with him making money on his exit, if it means for us to hopefully move on to a more successful period for the club

Tek · 20/12/2018 1:31 am

I thought he spoke well and seemed a (much) more intelligent, articulate and capable individual than Stephen Thompson was.

However his decision not to sack Csaba Laszlo earlier will always sully his short time in the hot seat for me.

I have no ill-will towards the man however and unlike Thompson he will be accorded a welcome at Tannadice in future.

Here is his last interview as Chairman.

Arabnophobia · 20/12/2018 1:47 am

Tek wrote:
I thought he spoke well and seemed a (much) more intelligent, articulate and capable individual than Stephen Thompson was.

However his decision not to sack Csaba Laszlo earlier will always sully his short time in the hot seat for me.

I have no ill-will towards the man however and unlike Thompson he will be accorded a welcome at Tannadice in future.

Here is his last interview as Chairman.

He's never coming at us as one of the lads and very tarnished by association but I'd say he did well under very tough circumstances. Improved what he could in a short period of time and deserves mair credit than abuse.

kiwiarab · 20/12/2018 1:47 am

He joined the board in April 2011 when we were cup holders and an established top six side, he cannot be completely blameless for the decline from then until before he became chairman earlier this year.

bowers · 20/12/2018 2:47 am

Tek wrote:
I thought he spoke well and seemed a (much) more intelligent, articulate and capable individual than Stephen Thompson was. Thats because Thompson was totally clueless in what he was doing, Mike Martin knows how to talk to people and is good and letting people hear what they want to.

However his decision not to sack Csaba Laszlo earlier will always sully his short time in the hot seat for me. Yip he should have acted alot quicker in getting rid of Laszlo at least he has now held his hands up and admitted that he made that mistake.

I have no ill-will towards the man however and unlike Thompson he will be accorded a welcome at Tannadice in future.

Here is his last interview as Chairman.

20/12/2018 11:48 am

I like your opening post Tangy, well summarised.
All things being equal, 7.5 out of 10?
As Tangy says, he's done what he said he would.
Not getting rid of Snaba'? Can sympathise with him a wee bit, honourable intentions and all that.
I mean, imagine if Snaba' had turned round his & the team's performance because of the new chairmanship, how chuffed would MM have been?
I don't know him at all but somebody from the banking sector who knows him well told me he was ok but a bit of an arse.
So another opening door in the long & rich history of DUFC & I'm well excited about it all.
Any chance of 6,000 on Saturday? Over to you Bowers....

Tek · 20/12/2018 1:17 pm

bowers wrote:
Tek wrote:
I thought he spoke well and seemed a (much) more intelligent, articulate and capable individual than Stephen Thompson was. Thats because Thompson was totally clueless in what he was doing, Mike Martin knows how to talk to people and is good and letting people hear what they want to.

However his decision not to sack Csaba Laszlo earlier will always sully his short time in the hot seat for me. Yip he should have acted alot quicker in getting rid of Laszlo at least he has now held his hands up and admitted that he made that mistake.

I have no ill-will towards the man however and unlike Thompson he will be accorded a welcome at Tannadice in future.

Here is his last interview as Chairman.

You could be right about him saying what people wanted to hear.

Although i find Martin a clearly intelligent and compotent individual i also have an underlying gut-feeling that he's quite disingenous somehow. I always have.

Shouldn't be forgotten that he was supposedly the driving force behind the ill-conceived putsuit of the Newcastle Jets and Thommar Ltd/Utd FC Group.

I always had the distinct impression that he seen Utd as a way to make money. Which is fine btw as long as it's not to the detriment of the club which the aforementioned situation most certainly was.

To just take his Chairmanship as a single issue though i thought he did 'ok'. Spoke well, met various groups face to face, eventually appointed a half decent Manager, upgraded the hospo suite in the George Fox, put the wheels in motion for the sports bar rtc etc.

But as i said Csaba was the 'elephant in the room' and ultimately backing the man for so long taints his time in the chair.

PatReilly · 20/12/2018 3:02 pm

Thompson did some good stuff prior to late 2014/early 2015, as did Martin as part of that board, and even recently as chairman.

He asked us to judge him on his actions, not his words, yet his talk came cheaply, for me. Always had the feeling he was telling us one thing but there was something else on his agenda.

And a recent example: ownership. From his parting interview yesterday, MM indicates he still hold on to Gussie Park, yet talks have been taking place for months regarding the takeover. Why is he still in possession?

That's without the daftness of keeping Csaba on, and the effect it'll have on us for the next few seasons.

I'll not look back fondly on his stewardship.

TheShed · 20/12/2018 7:07 pm

Stephen Thompson’s decision making went downhill from the day Mike Martin got involved at the club. It went further downhill the more influence Martin had. Mike Martin was not good for the club in any way. Delighted he’s gone.

Hopefully we now have someone who can sort the finances out, stop the club losing thousands every week and let the manager do what’s needed to get us back in the top 6, it won’t happen overnight but that has to be the aim.