Tekel Towers » Obscure Dundee United matches

Tek · 03/11/2018 12:34 am

Getting lost down an Arab Archive foxhole tonight and (as per) so impressed with the content on there. Brilliant site.

What I find intriguing is not the stats most of us all know, though. More obscure facts or moreover matches we have maybe forgotten about or even before our time.

So thought i'd start a wee thread about it and you chaps can add any obscure match (or fact) of your own liking if you would like too.

Obscure match -

1) Scotland 2 Dundee United 0

Scotland Scorers - (P.Dalglish + S.Dobbie)
Venue - Forthbank Stadium , Stirling
Date - Tuesday, April 30th 2002 (6PM)

Team Line-Up's -

A Berti Vogts 'experiment'. United's own Jim Lachlan+Alan Combe were part of the Scotland team, rather than the Utd team.

Tek · 03/11/2018 12:44 am

Match -

2) Dundee United 1 Australia Olympic Team 1

Utd scorer (John Clark 57)
Oz Olympic scorer (Ned Zelic 13)
Venue - Tannadice Park, Dundee
Date - Sunday, August 19th 1990
Att; 1,779

Team Line-Up's -

DUFC -

Main
Perry
McKinnon
N.Duffy
Paatelainen
Bowman
S.Kopel
Clark
D.Ferguson
French
Connolly

Subs -
Garden
Bollan
Johnson
Lindsay
J.McLeod
J.O'Neill

Oz Olympic -

John Filan
Dickinson
Tony Vidmar
Ned Zelic
Dominic Longo
Shaun Murphy
John Gibson
George Slifkas
John Markovski
Carl Veart
Steve Refenes

Subs -
Murray
Michalopolous
Georgiakis
Hristodoulous
Brazzale
Gary Hasler
Steve Mautone

Tek · 03/11/2018 12:56 am

Match -

3) Dundee Utd 2 Australia XI 2

Utd Scorers ( Hannah 28, Ristic 44)
Oz (Bollan O.G. 70, Valkanis 89)
Venue - Tannadice Park, Dundee
Date - Saturday, 30th July 1994
Att; 2.601

Line -Up's

Utd -
Main
Cleland
Petric
Welsh
Malpas
Hannah
Bowman
McKinlay
Nixon
Ristic
Brewster

Subs -
Stewart
Bollan
Dailly
McLaren
O'Neill
Connolly

Oz -
Frank Jurić
Ross Aloisi
Luke Casserly
Ante Moric
Sean Cranney
Kevin Muscat
Gabriel Mendez
Tseilenis
David Cervinski
Bradley Hassell
Michael Valkanis

Subs -
Clint Bolton
Joe Spiteri
Vinko Buljabasic
Dimovski
Goran Lozanovski
Vojteil

japanarab · 03/11/2018 4:30 am

The very first Kirin cup over here featured United along with Spurs. We made the final.

Last edited by japanarab (03/11/2018 4:31 am)

Rocky Raccoon · 03/11/2018 7:37 am

I was at the two Australia games and I remember the game against Scotland B, the United side back then gave me the fear,as did most of the Scotland B team, three future United players and two (at the time) present, or it could be the other way around as I cannot remember the year Warren Cummings was with us.

SlatefordArab · 03/11/2018 11:07 am

Was at both Australia games too. No memory of that game v Scotland though!

Tek · 04/11/2018 12:44 am

Match -

5) Dundee United 3 British Army 1

Utd Scorers - (Gillespie 12, Irvine 35, Gillespie 44)
British Army Scorers - (Cairns 78)
Venue - Tannadice Park, Dundee
Date - Monday 2nd October 1961
Att ; 4,000

Line-Up's -

Utd -

Lando Ugolini
Doug Smith
Tommy Neilson
Tommy Graham
Alec Gordon
George Sievwright
David Boner
Jim Irvine
Wattie Carlyle
Neil Mochan
Dennis Gillespie

British Army -

Jim Samson
Danny Ferguson
George Muir
Bill Baxter
Mel Scott
Jim Baxter
Jocky Ford
Johnny Quinn
Tommy White
Davie Gibson
John Sydenham

Tek · 04/11/2018 12:49 am

Match -

6) Dundee United 3 Polish Army 0

Utd Scorers - (Smart 20, Gardiner 23, Smith 35)
Date - Saturday 27th December 1941
Venue - Tannadice Park, Dundee
Att; 1,200

Line- Up's

Utd -

Chic Brownlee
Ian Smart
Dave Smith
Willie Fordyve
Eric Sibley
Jimmy Morgan
Lomond Reid
Sid Smith
John Ross
Trialist
Bobby Gardiner

Polish Army -

Piskozub
Bull
Olek
Patkowski
Wasiewiez
Olber
Kaminski
Klus
Zajac
Jrosator
Ozubazek

Tek · 04/11/2018 12:59 am

Match -

7) Mexico XI 6 Dundee United 0

Mexico Scorers -
Alberto Onofre (6)
Javier Valdivia (8)
Javier Valdivia (40)
Héctor Pulido (50)
Javier Fragoso (83)
Markland (o.g)
Date - Wednesday 13th May 1970
Venue - Olympic Stadium, Mexico City
Att; 75,000

Line-Up's -

Mexico -
Ignacio Calderón
José Vantolrá
Gustavo Peña
Javier Guzmán
Mario Pérez
Mario Velarde
Héctor Pulido
Alberto Onofre
Javier Valdivia
Juan Ignacio Basaguren
Horacio Lopez Salgado

Utd -

Don MacKay
Doug Smith
Jim Cameron
Andy Rolland
Jim Henry
Davie Wilson
Alec Reid
Dennis Gillespie
Morris Stevenson
Ian Mitchell
Tommy Dunne

Over the years United have undertaken many trips abroad and to many countries, but at the end of season 69-70, United players could say "We were there when the World Cup took place in Mexico." Just before the tournament got under way in Mexico, United played two games in the capital against the Mexican World Cup eleven.

The first game was played within a few days of United's arrival in Mexico and with no time to acclimatise to the heat nor attitude were heavily defeated by the national side. Four days later, the two sides met again in the Olympic Stadium and fared much better going down only 2-0 with lan Mitchell missing from the penalty spot. Both games attracted around 75,000. On their way home United paid a high speed visit to Greece and went down 3-1 to Panathinaikos.

Tek · 04/11/2018 1:57 am

Match -

8) Selangor XI 1 Dundee United 1

Utd Scorer (McKinlay 56)
Date - Saturday 16th July 1994
Venue - Shah Alam Stadium, Kuala Lumpur
Att; 100,000

Line-Up's -

Selangor -
Bruce Grobbelaar
Ismail Ibrahim
Assrof Hanafiah
P Maniam
Mehmet Durakovic
Almir Memic
Yeo Swee Hock
Anuar Abu Bakar
Zsolt Bucs
K Sanbagamaran
Dean Mostahinic

Utd -

Henrik Jorgensen
Christian Dailly
Brian Welsh
Maurice Malpas
Alex Cleland
David Hannah
Dave Bowman
Billy McKinlay
Jerren Nixon
Dragutin Ristic
Craig Brewster

This game was a big deal in Selangor, Malaysia as it was the grand opening of the countries brand new purpose built National Stadium.

Over 100,000 crammed into the Stadium to see Selangor and DUFC battle out a 1-1 draw.

The countries top brass were all in attendance including top ranking politicians and members of the royal family including the Sultan.

Rocky Raccoon · 04/11/2018 8:34 am

Some great photos TEK.

Rumour is Bruce Grobbelaar had Billy McKinlay to score and the game to end in a draw.

lifesanocean · 04/11/2018 8:42 am

Thon Ristic was fucking diabolical. To think Paddy Connolly was basically punted from the first team for that fucking dumpling. No wonder we got relegated.

Last edited by lifesanocean (04/11/2018 8:42 am)

Swing_kinker · 04/11/2018 2:58 pm

lifesanocean wrote:
Thon Ristic was fucking diabolical. To think Paddy Connolly was basically punted from the first team for that fucking dumpling. No wonder we got relegated.

Aye not great but he scored a few goals. Couple of screamers so at least he contributed a little bit. Looked a right tube though.

Arabnophobia · 04/11/2018 7:09 pm

Tek wrote:
Match -

8) Selangor XI 1 Dundee United 1

Utd Scorer (McKinlay 56)
Date - Saturday 16th July 1994
Venue - Shah Alam Stadium, Kuala Lumpur
Att; 100,000

Line-Up's -

Selangor -
Bruce Grobbelaar
Ismail Ibrahim
Assrof Hanafiah
P Maniam
Mehmet Durakovic
Almir Memic
Yeo Swee Hock
Anuar Abu Bakar
Zsolt Bucs
K Sanbagamaran
Dean Mostahinic

Utd -

Henrik Jorgensen
Christian Dailly
Brian Welsh
Maurice Malpas
Alex Cleland
David Hannah
Dave Bowman
Billy McKinlay
Jerren Nixon
Dragutin Ristic
Craig Brewster

This game was a big deal in Selangor, Malaysia as it was the grand opening of the countries brand new purpose built National Stadium.

Over 100,000 crammed into the Stadium to see Selangor and DUFC battle out a 1-1 draw.

The countries top brass were all in attendance including top ranking politicians and members of the royal family including the Sultan.

Is that the biggest crowd we've played in front of?

Rocky Raccoon · 04/11/2018 7:24 pm

Swing_kinker wrote:
lifesanocean wrote:
Thon Ristic was fucking diabolical. To think Paddy Connolly was basically punted from the first team for that fucking dumpling. No wonder we got relegated.

Aye not great but he scored a few goals. Couple of screamers so at least he contributed a little bit. Looked a right tube though.

Those three goals were invaluable.

Tek · 04/11/2018 8:24 pm

Arabnophobia wrote:

Is that the biggest crowd we've played in front of?

I reckon it must be.

The biggest crowd we played at Hampden was 75,000, twice (Against Rangers in the 1940 Emergency Cup Final and the 1974 Scottish Cup Final v Celtic). 74,000 v Celtic in '88 SCF.

And of course 75,000 versus Mexico in the above match in the 1970 World Cup warm-up match.

Reckon this is the only +100,000 crowd DUFC have played in front of though.

Arabnophobia · 04/11/2018 9:45 pm

Like this topic and have to admit I had fuckall knowledge of the Selangor match until now unless I was on a mad one at the time and just cannae mind.

Swing_kinker · 04/11/2018 10:18 pm

Rocky Raccoon wrote:
Swing_kinker wrote:
lifesanocean wrote:
Thon Ristic was fucking diabolical. To think Paddy Connolly was basically punted from the first team for that fucking dumpling. No wonder we got relegated.

Aye not great but he scored a few goals. Couple of screamers so at least he contributed a little bit. Looked a right tube though.

Those three goals were invaluable.

Although your entire existence on this board seems to be sarcastically replying to folk like a childish bellend I'll respond. My point is there are players who play several games and contribute absolutely nothing positive so chipping in some goals at least contributes something. Grow up now or go away and let the adults speak.

Tek · 04/11/2018 10:21 pm

Arabnophobia wrote:
Like this topic and have to admit I had fuckall knowledge of the Selangor match until now unless I was on a mad one at the time and just cannae mind.

Two or 3 days after the Selangor match we also played Bayern Munich in the same stadium. Also a 1-1 draw.

Match -

9) Dundee United 1 Bayern Munich 1

Wednesday 20th July 1994
Venue - Shah Alam Stadium, Kuala Lumpur
Att; 10,000

Line-Up's -

Utd -

Jorgensen
Cleland
Welsh
Bollan
Malpas
McLaren
Trialist
Bowman
McKinkay
Brewster
Connolly

Subs -
Nixon
Ristic

Rocky Raccoon · 04/11/2018 10:40 pm

Swing_kinker wrote:
Rocky Raccoon wrote:
Swing_kinker wrote:

Aye not great but he scored a few goals. Couple of screamers so at least he contributed a little bit. Looked a right tube though.

Those three goals were invaluable.

Although your entire existence on this board seems to be sarcastically replying to folk like a childish bellend I'll respond. My point is there are players who play several games and contribute absolutely nothing positive so chipping in some goals at least contributes something. Grow up now or go away and let the adults speak.

Well Paddy Connolly went on to have a half decent career in Scotland after he left United playing in the SPL for the majority of his career but you seem to think Ristic's three goals (in theory contributed to 4 points) were worthy of replacing Connolly so if that floats your boat fair enough.

On your "your entire existence on this board seems to be sarcastically replying to folk like a childish bellend" comment is solely based on me commenting about two absolutely shite United players I feel your attack on me is totally unjust but if that's the way you feel just put me on ignore or fuck off back to EastFannies where your yourself are a bit of a cunt yourself but I don't feel the need to let you know it.

Tek · 04/11/2018 11:58 pm

Never seen this thread ending in animosity.🤔

PatReilly · 05/11/2018 12:47 am

Tek wrote:
Never seen this thread ending in animosity.🤔

United's fortunes have improved, so maybe folk need something else to moan about on these pages?

That Forthbank international trial match in 2002, it's just up the road from me so I went to see it, but ended up staying in the Halfway House, now sadly gone.

Swing_kinker · 05/11/2018 1:03 am

Rocky Raccoon wrote:
Swing_kinker wrote:
Rocky Raccoon wrote:

Those three goals were invaluable.

Although your entire existence on this board seems to be sarcastically replying to folk like a childish bellend I'll respond. My point is there are players who play several games and contribute absolutely nothing positive so chipping in some goals at least contributes something. Grow up now or go away and let the adults speak.
Well Paddy Connolly went on to have a half decent career in Scotland after he left United playing in the SPL for the majority of his career but you seem to think Ristic's three goals (in theory contributed to 4 points) were worthy of replacing Connolly so if that floats your boat fair enough.

On your "your entire existence on this board seems to be sarcastically replying to folk like a childish bellend" comment is solely based on me commenting about two absolutely shite United players I feel your attack on me is totally unjust but if that's the way you feel just put me on ignore or fuck off back to EastFannies where your yourself are a bit of a cunt yourself but I don't feel the need to let you know it.

Apologies to everyone, really not liking derailing this fine thread but this needs addressed. Your first point.....what on earth are you on about. You think I preferred Ristic to Paddy? What planet are you on? Read please

Rocky Raccoon · 05/11/2018 6:36 am

Tek wrote:
Never seen this thread ending in animosity.🤔

I'm not one for starting or getting involved in arguments on a fucking internet forum but I'm not going to stand back and take it from that prick. Two post in the matter of days he had something to say about me, I have the right to defend myself.

blackandtangerine · 05/11/2018 9:41 am

Swing_kinker wrote:
Rocky Raccoon wrote:
Swing_kinker wrote:

Although your entire existence on this board seems to be sarcastically replying to folk like a childish bellend I'll respond. My point is there are players who play several games and contribute absolutely nothing positive so chipping in some goals at least contributes something. Grow up now or go away and let the adults speak.
Well Paddy Connolly went on to have a half decent career in Scotland after he left United playing in the SPL for the majority of his career but you seem to think Ristic's three goals (in theory contributed to 4 points) were worthy of replacing Connolly so if that floats your boat fair enough.

On your "your entire existence on this board seems to be sarcastically replying to folk like a childish bellend" comment is solely based on me commenting about two absolutely shite United players I feel your attack on me is totally unjust but if that's the way you feel just put me on ignore or fuck off back to EastFannies where your yourself are a bit of a cunt yourself but I don't feel the need to let you know it.

Apologies to everyone, really not liking derailing this fine thread but this needs addressed. Your first point.....what on earth are you on about. You think I preferred Ristic to Paddy? What planet are you on? Read please

PM each other. Lot easier 😉