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blackandtangerine · 05/6/2018 3:46 pm

See the spfl want to now invite two english clubs into this years competition.
The two clubs mentioned are Boreham Wood and Sutton United.
Absolutely farcical imo.

MockChop · 05/6/2018 4:28 pm

We know where this is slowly going.

Or, where they want it to go.

Billy_Hainey · 05/6/2018 4:45 pm

It should go where the sun don't shine.

Tek · 05/6/2018 5:11 pm

See if these teams are going to come in to the tournament after Utd are then i would be 100% behind the club either.

1) Refusing to play in the tournament
2) Playing our kids as a protest

A disgrace the contempt that is being shown to the Scottish clubs.

The SPFL have ruined what was once an enjoyable tournament and the only chance a team like Stenhousemuir would get to win a Cup.

Beharder · 05/6/2018 5:38 pm

I may be in the minority here but i would rather watch UTD play a 5th tier English team than a 4th tier Scottish team.

Rocky Raccoon · 05/6/2018 5:55 pm

Why?

Beardy23 · 05/6/2018 6:40 pm

just when you think Scottish football can't sink any lower...

blackandtangerine · 05/6/2018 6:41 pm

Beharder wrote:
I may be in the minority here but i would rather watch UTD play a 5th tier English team than a 4th tier Scottish team.

Thats not the point though is it.

Id love an away day down there but this isnt about that. Its about the spfl trying cross border competition for the benefit od sellick and the huns.

Beardy23 · 05/6/2018 6:44 pm

Actually, do the development squads that played in this diddy cup even exist any more? are the premiership clubs going to need special "Colt" teams?

PatReilly · 05/6/2018 6:47 pm

Yep, a day in London would be fine, as opposed to a day in Annan, but as b&t and MockChop point out, there are only two clubs the SPFL are thinking about here.

What frustrates me is the collective silence of the lower league clubs in all of this, to the extent I'd accuse United's board, and others, of being cowardly.

annanarab · 05/6/2018 6:58 pm

I’d look forward to a day in Annan. The Bluebell is one of the best pubs anywhere.
I’d make a decision our our participation either play the youngsters and those in need of a game or try to win the competition.

05/6/2018 10:30 pm

We could play our lassies team & get fined £10k.
I'd rather see Sutton Utd at Tannadice than Brechin City.
If the Scottish football authorities are guilty of 'sampling' cross border football maybe it's because it's inevitable & will be a change for the better. Our current league system will probably look a whole lot different in 5 years time. It's called evolution.
Boreham Wood sounds like a place that would have great pubs!

PatReilly · 05/6/2018 11:24 pm

smedDUm wrote:
We could play our lassies team & get fined £10k.
I'd rather see Sutton Utd at Tannadice than Brechin City.
If the Scottish football authorities are guilty of 'sampling' cross border football maybe it's because it's inevitable & will be a change for the better. Our current league system will probably look a whole lot different in 5 years time. It's called evolution.
Boreham Wood sounds like a place that would have great pubs!

That reads like a drug addled esoteric ramble, smeDUm. But maybe that's just me.

Macho Man · 06/6/2018 7:56 am

smedDUm wrote:
We could play our lassies team & get fined £10k.
I'd rather see Sutton Utd at Tannadice than Brechin City.
If the Scottish football authorities are guilty of 'sampling' cross border football maybe it's because it's inevitable & will be a change for the better. Our current league system will probably look a whole lot different in 5 years time. It's called evolution.
Boreham Wood sounds like a place that would have great pubs!

Please don't take this the wrong way, but do you honestly think that diluting Scottish football with teams from other countries, which could lead to the formation of a British team at the expense of our national identity, would be a good thing?

How can it be seen as a positive when potentially the winnings of a Scottish competition could end up outwith Scotland?

How can it be seen as a positive that smaller teams can be put at financial risk if they have to travel to Ireland or the south of England to play a team that really shouldn't be in the competition?

How can it be seen as a positive that our governing body are blatantly pandering to the Glasgow 2 to try and find them a foothold in cross border competitions so that they can one day try and compete in English Cups whilst still playing in the Scottish Leagues?

arabchanter · 06/6/2018 9:57 am

Maybe this could be Mike Martins chance to get the fans on his side, it worked for a while for ST with the sevco carry on, tell them to get to fuck, a Scottish cup for Scottish teams, no more no less.

arabchanter · 06/6/2018 10:11 am

Day 301.

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06/6/2018 11:10 am

Macho Man wrote:
smedDUm wrote:
We could play our lassies team & get fined £10k.
I'd rather see Sutton Utd at Tannadice than Brechin City.
If the Scottish football authorities are guilty of 'sampling' cross border football maybe it's because it's inevitable & will be a change for the better. Our current league system will probably look a whole lot different in 5 years time. It's called evolution.
Boreham Wood sounds like a place that would have great pubs!
Please don't take this the wrong way, but do you honestly think that diluting Scottish football with teams from other countries, which could lead to the formation of a British team at the expense of our national identity, would be a good thing?

How can it be seen as a positive when potentially the winnings of a Scottish competition could end up outwith Scotland?

How can it be seen as a positive that smaller teams can be put at financial risk if they have to travel to Ireland or the south of England to play a team that really shouldn't be in the competition?

How can it be seen as a positive that our governing body are blatantly pandering to the Glasgow 2 to try and find them a foothold in cross border competitions so that they can one day try and compete in English Cups whilst still playing in the Scottish Leagues?

How many more years of Rasellic winning the league unchallenged before the ba' bursts Macho Man?
That & monopoly situations elsewhere in the footballing world where the rich are getting very rich will mean some sort of departure of the ways.
How it leaves the rest of us is unclear but change is inevitable.

Macho Man · 06/6/2018 11:59 am

smedDUm wrote:
How many more years of Rasellic winning the league unchallenged before the ba' bursts Macho Man?
That & monopoly situations elsewhere in the footballing world where the rich are getting very rich will mean some sort of departure of the ways.
How it leaves the rest of us is unclear but change is inevitable.

That will always be the case if we continually keep the money from within Scottish football away from all Scottish teams bar Celtic and Rangers.

If they want to play in England then they should relocate to England. It's just like all this non specific gender chat that is going on just now - people wanting to be something that they are not and spitting the dummy when they are told 'no'.

Sutton United and the other team mentioned aren't Scottish Clubs and therefore shouldn't be allowed to play in a Scottish tournament. The same goes for the Irish and Welsh teams too, IMO.

People like Doncaster are killing out game spectacularly by pandering to every whim of the bigoted arse cheeks, which will be the driving force behind introducing these teams into the Challenge Cup..

PatReilly · 06/6/2018 12:25 pm

smedDUm wrote:
How many more years of Rasellic winning the league unchallenged before the ba' bursts Macho Man?
That & monopoly situations elsewhere in the footballing world where the rich are getting very rich will mean some sort of departure of the ways.
How it leaves the rest of us is unclear but change is inevitable.

Monopoly, duopoly, it doesn't really matter to the other 40 clubs does it? 35 years since any club other than the two cheeks won the title.

Macho Man wrote:

That will always be the case if we continually keep the money from within Scottish football away from all Scottish teams bar Celtic and Rangers.

........................

People like Doncaster are killing our game spectacularly by pandering to every whim of the bigoted arse cheeks, which will be the driving force behind introducing these teams into the Challenge Cup..

Totally agreement. We should have collectively altered the league structure and finances in 2012, when we had the chance. Aberdeen shit in the nest.

Tek · 08/6/2018 4:09 pm

SPFL confirming that ALL Scottish clubs will enter in the first Round and the clubs from RoUK will enter in the second round.

Scotland. A country where our National governing body for all member clubs would gladly self-sabotage those clubs chances of winning a SCOTTISH cup competition to the benefit of clubs from England, Wales and Northern Ireland.

Sounds about right.

PatReilly · 08/6/2018 4:19 pm

They (SPFL) had the 2018-19 Challenge Cup Rules up a few weeks ago, which included the participation of u20 sides. Of course, they'd forgotten that u20 sides don't exist any more.

If you look at their website right now, the competition has, for 2018-19, no rules

https://spfl.co.uk/challenge-cup/rules/

and no format

https://spfl.co.uk/challenge-cup/format/

The SPFL truly give no fucks for Scottish football, apart from where it relates to two teams from Glasgow.

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PatReilly · 08/6/2018 4:22 pm

Oh, and of course, the value of Scottish football is enhanced by allowing the two sides ranked 94th and 95th from England to compete in the tournament.

Amber SUFC · 08/6/2018 10:40 pm

Most Sutton fans are looking forward to this. However I can't see how any clubs would make any money if the faced us. The traveling costs would not be covered by the gate receipts.

08/6/2018 11:02 pm

Amber SUFC wrote:
Most Sutton fans are looking forward to this. However I can't see how any clubs would make any money if the faced us. The traveling costs would not be covered by the gate receipts.

The rules of the comp allow some travel costs to be compensated Amber.
I bet there's some good pubs in Sutton?

Arabnophobia · 08/6/2018 11:06 pm

Always enjoyed any Cup matches, thought folk slagging them had daft agendas or opinions but this ain is a different thing for me altoghether.

Boycotting games isnae a thing that will help us financially and I don't ever feel like it suits our type of support but I feel like calling for us to do one as this is a bad plan aimed for an end product I don't want in the future.

Would take a mass boycott to be noticed though and I think we are fucked from the so called top regardless.