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30/1/2018 11:47 am  #651


Re: 1001 albums you must hear before you die

DAY 174. (And the last day of the '60s)
Frank Zappa.................................Hot Rats   (1969)              (I can see you smiling Pat   )










By 1969 Zappa was a frustrated man, the Mothers Of Invention didn't sell well (ach awa) and paying his group left a big dent in his pocket, so Zappa broke up the band.


He retreated into the studio to record Hot Rats with a new group of musicians , including Ian Underwood, who had first appeared on Uncle Meat, and whose technical ability Zappa could rely upon, old friend Don "Captain Beefheart" Van Vliet, and violinist Don "Sugercane" Harris and Jean-Luc Ponty.
 


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30/1/2018 2:51 pm  #652


Re: 1001 albums you must hear before you die

arabchanter wrote:

DAY 174. (And the last day of the '60s)
Frank Zappa.................................Hot Rats   (1969)              (I can see you smiling Pat   )




 

To be honest, I thought this album was from the 'seventies: I'll have to change that top twenty now (Zappa and Beefheart are in great form on the title track!)

And I doubt if Frank Zappa was that bothered about the commercial appeal of his music, he didn't really worry about record sales according to many interviews.

You'll hate in arabchanter, I think this is a great album. 

 

30/1/2018 11:22 pm  #653


Re: 1001 albums you must hear before you die

PatReilly wrote:

arabchanter wrote:

DAY 174. (And the last day of the '60s)
Frank Zappa.................................Hot Rats   (1969)              (I can see you smiling Pat   )




 

You'll hate in arabchanter, I think this is a great album. 

F'kn bang on the money Pat!

And the bird has far too big hands, was told " always get a bird wi' sma hands," you know what I mean.
 


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30/1/2018 11:59 pm  #654


Re: 1001 albums you must hear before you die

DAY 174. (And the last day of the '60s)
Frank Zappa.................................Hot Rats   (1969)              (I can see you smiling Pat   )








This wont take long, I take my hat aff to people who enjoy this type of music, to me it shows unbelievable  patience and fortitude.


The thing I just can't get, and I don't want to cause offence, but when would you play this whole album, personally I choose an album/artist to listen to which reflects or enhances my mood, but for me, I can't see Zappa doing either, but that's not to say I don't respect other peoples tastes.



Anyway to the album, the only track that I personally liked was "Willie The Pimp" which I was enjoying until about 3 or 4 minutes in then somebody started yelping, and we were treated to "enhanced solos," ( and that's no' the boy aff o' Star Wars, btw)  the rest to me was just noise.


This is a true story, when I go on the computer of a night to type my slaverings, the doag always comes and sits at my feet, tonight he came in while I was playing Hot Rats then made a hasty retreat, I tried to coax him back with treats but he wasn't having it, honestly on my kids lives.Maybe something to do with the frequency, but he wasn't impressed, and neither am I, this album wont be getting added to my collection "as long as my arsehole points down the way"




 


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31/1/2018 12:31 am  #655


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So a we draw the curtains on the '60s, what the fuck was going on then;



.British folks trying out "foot tickling machines." The purpose of which remains unclear other than sheer amusement and to say you tried it.

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What music did you listen to?


  • The Beatles
  • Cliff Richard and the Shadows
  • Gerry and the Pacemakers
  • The Searchers
  • The Rolling Stones
  • Elvis Presley
  • Herman's Hermits

 These are some of your favourite movies from the sixties:

  • James Bond ("Dr No", "Goldfinger", "From Russia with Love", "Thunderball")
  • "Easy Rider"
  • "The Sound of Music"
  • "The Italian Job"
  • Spaghetti Westerns ("The Good the Bad and the Ugly", "For a Few Dollars More", "A Fistful of Dollars"
  • "Carry On" films
  • "Did not like Elvis, but you had to go if you wanted to be sweet with a girl"

 These are some of the most popular gadgets

  • TV
  • Radio
  • Record player
  • Radiogram
  • Reel to reel tape recorder
  • Washing machine (twin tub)

 A prototype of the first computer mouse (wut?!), a creation by Douglas C. Engelbart.
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1960
Democrat John F. Kennedy wins the U.S. Presidential Election after defeating Republican Richard Nixon. Kennedy became the first president and was the youngest person to have been elected into the highest office at the time.
1961

  • Soviet Cosmonaut Yuri Gagarin becomes the first person in space. One month later, Alan Shepard becomes the first American in space.


  • Construction on the Berlin Wall begins in an effort to separate East and West Berlin.


  • The Bay of Pigs invasion is an unsuccessful U,S, backed operation to overthrow Fidel Castro in Cuba.


  • The Peace Corps is created.


  • WWF (World Wide Fund for Nature) is created.

1962

  • The Cuban Missile Crisis has the world on the edge of another World War as the United States and USSR come close to launching nuclear attacks.


  • James Meredith becomes the first African-American student to enroll at the University of Mississippi.


  • The comic book character of Spider-Man makes his debut in the Amazing Fantasy #15 comic.


  • The Beatles release their first single, "Love Me Do," in the United Kingdom.


  • Sam Walton opens the first Wal-Mart store in Arkansas.

 1963

  • United States President John F. Kennedy is assassinated by Lee Harvey Oswald.


  • U.S. Civil Rights Leader Martin Luther King Jr. gives is famous "I Have a Dream" speech.

 1964

  • United States President Lyndon B. Johnson signs the Civil Rights Act of 1964 into law.


  • NASA's Mariner 4 space probe successfully approaches Mars and becomes the first spacecraft to take images of a planet from deep space.


  • Sidney Poitier wins the Academy Award for "Best Actor" becoming the first black actor to win that honor.


  • The computer coding language BASIC (Beginner's All-Purpose Symbolic Instruction Code) is introduced.

1965

  • The Voting Rights Act is signed into law by President Lyndon Johnson.


  • Soviet Cosmonaut Aleksei Leonov becomes the first person to perform a space walk.


  • Martin Luther King, Jr. leads a peaceful civil rights march from Selma to Montgomery in Alabama.


  • The Vietnam War escalates and opposition to it begins to mount as anti-Vietnam protests become more common.


  • Mary Quant designs the mini-skirt in London and it becomes a fashion craze.

 1966

  • The first episode of the popular television show "Star Trek" airs.


  • The Soviet Union's Luna 9 unmanned spacecraft lands on the Moon.


  • Botswana and Lesotho gain independence from United Kingdom


  • Indira Gandhi becomes the Prime Minister of India.

 1967

Rolling Stone publishes its first magazine issue.

  • South African doctor Christiaan Barnard completes the first heart transplant operation.


  • The 25th Amendment to the U.S. Constitution is ratified.

 1968

  • Civil Rights leader Martin Luther King Jr. is assassinated in April by James Earl Ray.


  • Egypt's Aswan Dam is completed.


  • The Civil Rights Act of 1968 is signed into law by President Johnson.


  • Richard Nixon wins the United States presidential election.


  • The first manned Apollo mission, Apollo 7, is launched by NASA.

 1969

  • Neil Armstrong and Buzz Aldrin become the first men to arrive on the Moon during NASA's Apollo 11 mission.


  • The Woodstock music festival takes place in New York and features such acts as Janis Joplin, Jimi Hendrix, Jefferson Airplane, and The Who.


  • ARPANET, the predecessor to the Internet, relays its first communications between UCLA and Stanford.


  • The popular children's television show "Sesame Street" debuts.


  • The United Kingdom abolishes the death penalty.


I know pretty random,but at half past twelve what do you expect!

 


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31/1/2018 1:19 am  #656


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Just for a bit of fun, see if you can get the answer to these lyrics without looking them up, no prizes so no chaetin'
All in the book except '61



1960


Now, when I was a young boy
At the age of five
My mother said I was gonna be
The greatest man alive





1961....... (the only one that's no' in the book) 1961 only had one artist, and I don't think anyone new him.



Somebody said he came from New Orleans Where he got in a fight over a Cajun Queen
And a crashin' blow from a huge right hand Sent a Louisiana fellow to the promised land,


1962

They say that time
Heals a broken heart



1963

You know I'll always be your slave
'Till I'm buried and buried in my grave


1964


Show him that you care just for him
Do the things he likes to do
Wear your hair just for him, 'cause
You won't get him


1965


I don't mind other guys dancing with my girl
That's fine, I know them all pretty well
But I know sometimes I must get out in the light



1966


With your sheets like metal and your belt like lace,
And your deck of cards missing the jack and the ace,


1967


When you think the night has seen your mind
That inside you're twisted and unkind
Let me stand to show that you are blind
Please put down your hands
'Cause I see you


1968


Hey so my name
Is called Disturbance
I'll shout and scream
I'll kill the king, I'll rail at all his servants



1969



So you got to give it up
You know you can't get enough Miss Mackenzie
Cause it gets in your brain
It drives you insane
Leaping frenzy


As I say just a bit of fun, not too hard.


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31/1/2018 1:57 am  #657


Re: 1001 albums you must hear before you die

Seeing as we have now left the '60s, here's my

20 Tracks from the '60s, in no particular order, only from albums posted, and only one track per artist.


Got My Mojo Working,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,Muddy Waters



Strychnine...........................................................................................The Sonics




Ah Minha Menina.................................................................................Os Mutantes




Don't You Know..................................................................................Dusty Springfield




Whole Lotta Shakin' Going On.............................................................Jerry Lee Lewis




I walk In Guilded Splinters....................................................................Dr. John




The Kids Are All Right.......................................................................The Who





Victoria..............................................................................................The Kinks





Here Comes The Sun.......................................................................The Beatles





Time Has Told Me...........................................................................Nick Drake





I'm Waiting for The Man...................................................................The Velvet Underground





Midnight Rambler ...........................................................................The Rolling Stones





Fixing To Die Rag...........................................................................Country Joe And The Fish





Folsem Prison..............................................................................Johnny Cash





Si Tuis Dois Partir...........................................................................Fairport Convention





Time Of The Season.......................................................................The Zombies



White Rabbit...................................................................................Jefferson Airplane



Lazy Sunday....................................................................................The Small Faces



Kick Out The Jams (motherfucker)...................................................  MC5                                                



It's All Over Now, Baby Blue.............................................................Bob Dylan



This would more than likely change on a daily basis.


Would be interested to see other viewers choices!







 


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31/1/2018 8:56 am  #658


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See the lyrics bit, I only got a couple right away (60 and 68). But then I'm more a sounds man than lyric fan.

Think I share two songs with you, arabchanter, which is two more than I might have expected!

Green Onions from Green Onions (Booker T & the MGs)

The Witch from Here Come The Sonics (The Sonics)

In My Life from Rubber Soul (The Beatles)

Alone Again Or from Forever Changes (Love)

Sunshine of Your Love from Disreali Gears (Cream)

You're Gonna Miss Me from The Psychedelic Sounds of the 13th Floor Elevators (13th Floor Elevators)

Dropout Boogie from Safe as Milk (Captain Beefheart)

Alternate Title from Headquarters (The Monkees)

Bike from The Piper at the Gates of Dawn (Pink Floyd)

I Can See For Miles from The Who Sell Out (The Who)

Waterloo Sunset from Something Else (The Kinks)

White Light/White Heat from White Light/White Heat (Velvet Underground)

Foxy Lady from Are You Experienced (Jimi Hendrix)

I Had Too Much to Dream (Last Night) from The Electric Prunes (Electric Prunes)

Sympathy For The Devil from Beggars Banquet (Rolling Stones)

Lazy Sunday from Ogdens' Nut Gone Flake (Small Faces)

Communication Breakdown from Led Zeppelin I (Led Zeppelin)

I Wanna Be Your Dog from The Stooges (The Stooges)

21st Century Schizoid Man from In the Court of the Crimson King (King Crimson)

Willie the Pimp from Hot Rats (Frank Zappa)



Think the woman there is really enjoying the Vibrator, although Jack from ' On The Buses' is liking it with his socks off.

Winston Churchill, on the other foot, not so happy...........
 

 

31/1/2018 10:54 am  #659


Re: 1001 albums you must hear before you die

PatReilly wrote:

Think I share two songs with you, arabchanter, which is two more than I might have expected!
.
 

To be honest Pat, on another day there's about half a dozen on your list that could easily have been on my list  
 


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31/1/2018 11:11 am  #660


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WELCOME TO THE 1970s   



DAY 175.
Creedence Clearwater Revival.............................Cosmos Factory   (1970)











Creedence Clearwater Revival released six essential albums in just two and a half years, all bashed out quick, nothing fancy, just pure and catchy, pop styled, rock & roll. this was their fifth, and it topped the US album charts for nine consecutive weeks.


Looks like I'm going to get to hear their version of "I Heard It Through The Grapevine" Pat, all eleven minutes of it, Deep Joy 


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01/2/2018 10:01 am  #661


Re: 1001 albums you must hear before you die

DAY 175.
Creedence Clearwater Revival.............................Cosmo's Factory   (1970)










Cosmo's factory, was a pretty good album, I enjoyed all the tracks even the 11 minute version of "I Heard It Through The Grapevine" wasn't as painful as I was dreading.


CCR have this uncanny knack grabbing you with the openings bars of their songs (Up Around The Bend one of  my favourite intros ever) and not letting you get away until the next track does the same again, John Fogerty (guitar, vocals, harmonica, saxophone, piano,) gives his usual superb guitary thing, and what about those vocals?

Often forgotten is brother Toms virtuoso rhythm guitar that keeps the whole thing together, in fact the whole crew tend to gel into making the swamp-rock masters that they are, this album is the best CCR that I've heard so far, and given that more than half the tracks are on the greatest hits album that should come as no surprise.


Now the question would I buy it?
As I have their greatest hits, but only on CD this will be getting put on the subbies bench, but to be purchased at some point but not needed just yet.



Bits & Bobs;   already done some in posts #540 & 559 (if interested)



Ramble Tamble


This song was basically built around a single riff. It runs for over 7 minutes, most of which is an intense jamming session.



The song is about the "evil" of big government and the restrictions political forces can put on society.


 
This was the only song on Cosmo's Factory that was not previously released as a single.



Travelin' Band

Written by lead singer John Fogerty, this song is all about the hectic lifestyle of Creedence Clearwater Revival and their road warrior ways. In 1969, the band toured constantly and played many of the major festivals, including Woodstock. There was a rush of excitement in going from place to place, but as their drummer Doug Clifford explained, their baggage was constantly getting lost ("baggage gone, oh well") and they spent a lot of time waiting around in the heat during those famous festivals. The traveling got easier for the band when they got their own private plane.


 
"Travelin' Band" is very similar in style to the music of Little Richard, which Fogerty saw as a heartfelt tribute to the singer. Specialty Records, which owned Richard's catalog, saw things differently and sued the band, reaching a settlement to earn some royalties from the song.




The lawsuit claimed the Little Richard's "Good Golly Miss Molly" was being copied, but Creedence bass player Stu Cook said he thought it sounded more like "Long Tall Sally." Cook described the song as a combination of '50s Rock classics, but not a ripoff of any one song.


 
After the basic track was cut, John Fogerty went back to the studio and added many of the instrumental parts, including horns and piano, which he played himself.



Lookin' Out My Back Door


This song was partly written for John Fogerty's son Josh, who at the time was three years old. Fogerty said: "I knew he would love it if he heard me on the radio singing - doot doot doo, lookin' out my back door." In the song lyrics there is a reference to a parade passing by which John says was inspired by a Dr. Seuss book that he read as a kid titled To Think (That) I Saw It On Mulberry Street.


 
Much like The Beatles "Lucy In THe Sky With Diamonds" many people thought this was about drugs when it was really an innocent song inspired by a child. According to the drug theory, the "Flying Spoon" was a cocaine spoon, and the crazy animal images were an acid trip. This was even less plausible than the Beatles misinterpretation, since Creedence Clearwater Revival was never into psychedelic drugs.


 
This is played in the film The Big Lebowski.


 
The album cover shows Creedence Clearwater Revival's rehearsal space, which is not their original digs: they started rehearsing in a shed in the backyard of their drummer Doug Clifford's house. Clifford once said it was "better than working in a factory," so their rehearsal rooms became known as "The Factory." Clifford's nickname was Cosmo, so this space was known as "Cosmo's Factory."


 
John Fogerty played a bit of dobro on this track. He's seen holding the instrument on the cover of the 1969 album Green River, but "Lookin' Out My Back Door" is the only time he played it on a Creedence song. In 1993, he bought a dobro at a vintage guitar show and set out to master the instrument, playing it for hours on end and using it on his 1997 solo album Blue Moon Swamp. He got some help along the way from Jerry Douglas a preeminent dobro player who was part of Alison Krauss' band Union Station.



Run Through The Jungle


This is often believed to be about the Vietnam War, as it referred to a "jungle" and was released in 1970. The fact that previous CCR songs such as "Who'll Stop the Rain?" and "Fortunate Son" were protests of the Vietnam War added to this theory. In response, John Fogerty said: "I think a lot of people thought that because of the times, but I was talking about America and the proliferation of guns, registered and otherwise. I'm a hunter and I'm not antigun, but I just thought that people were so gun-happy - and there were so many guns uncontrolled that it really was dangerous, and it's even worse now. It's interesting that it has taken 20-odd years to get a movement on that position."

This position is best demonstrated in this lyric:

200 million guns are loaded
Satan cries, "Take aim!"


This opens with jungle sound effects created by, according to Stu Cook, "lots of backwards recorded guitar and piano."


 
Speaking about the musical influence on this song, John Fogerty said: "There were so many more people I'd never heard of - like Charlie Patton (an early Delta bluesman). I'm ashamed to admit that, but he wasn't commercially accessible, I guess. I read about him, and about a month or two later, I realized there were recordings of his music. To me, that was like if Moses had left behind a DAT with the Dead Sea Scrolls or something! 'You mean you can hear him?! Oh my God!' And then when I did hear Patton, he sounded like Howlin' Wolf, who was a big influence on me. When I did 'Run Through the Jungle,' I was being Howlin' Wolf, and Howlin' Wolf knew Charlie Patton!"


 
The line, "Devil's on the loose" ("They told me, 'Don't go walking slow 'cause Devil's on the loose'") was taken from music journalist Phil Elwood, who misinterpreted the line "doubles on kazoo" from the song "Down on the Corner" ("Willy goes into a dance and doubles on kazoo"). Fogerty saw this misquoted lyric in the newspaper and loved it, so he thanked Phil and used it for "Run through the Jungle."


 
Former CCR executive Saul Zaentz claimed that the song "The Old Man Down The Road," which Fogerty released as a solo artist, was too similar to this song, and even took him to court. It was perhaps the first time an artist was sued for plagiarizing himself. Fogerty won that case, but Zaentz also sued him for his song "Zanz Kant Danz," professing that it was an attack on him. Zaentz won that case and Fogerty not only had to pay a fine, but also had to change the song's name to "Vanz Kant Danz."


 
This was released as the B-side to the single for "Up Around The Bend," which was issued in April and quickly went gold. Most artists didn't use songs that could be standalone singles as B-sides, but if you bought a CCR single, you often got two hit songs - another example is "Travelin' Band" and "Who'll Stop The Rain?," which were paired on the same single.


 
John Fogerty played the harmonica part. Like the vocals on "Down on the Corner," he recorded it after recording the actual song and dubbed it in, because it went from harmonica to vocals so quickly and he couldn't remove the harmonica from his mouth fast enough. John also played harmonica on his solo effort The Wall (not to be confused with the Pink Floyd album).


 
Fogerty told Guitar World in 1997 that when he sang "Run Through the Jungle," he was "being Howlin' Wolf," an artist he cites as a major influence on him.


 
The Gun Club covered this for their album Miami, although with different lyrics because vocalist and band leader Jerry Pierce couldn't understand what John Fogerty was singing. He took some lyrics from black slavery songs, a Willie Brown song and personal experience (a heroin overdose is mentioned). They first performed it at a friend's birthday party before they were persuaded to include it on the album.


 
Besides Gun Club, this has been covered by Bruce Springsteen, Georgia Satellites, 8 Eyed Spy, Los Lobos and Killdozer.


 
Tom Fogerty called this song, "My all-time favorite Creedence tune." He added, "It's like a little movie in itself with all the sound effects. It never changes key, but it holds your interest the whole time. It's like a musician's dream. It never changes key, yet you get the illusion it does."


Up Around The Bend


Written by lead singer John Fogerty, this is a very upbeat Creedence Clearwater Revival, giving a hint that, as bad as things were in the early '70s, there might be some hope for the future: Things would improve "Around The Bend." Bass player Stu Cook described the song as "Kind of the opposite of 'Run Through The Jungle"


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This song required a bit of translation for British audiences. In England, if you go "around the bend" it means you go crazy. Then the band toured the UK, they had to explain to the British press that the song was not about dementia or mental problems.


 
In his memoir Fortunate Son: My Life, My Music, John Fogerty said that this song came to him when he was riding his motorcycle though the California hills.


 
Movies this song has appeared in include Michael (1996), Remember the Titans (2000) and Invincible (2006). It was also used in a 2008 episode of the TV show My Name Is Earl


 
Elton John covered this song shortly after it was released, and his version appears on several compilation albums. Hanoi Rocks recorded it for their 1984 Two Steps From The Move album.


 
In 2016, Wrangler used this in a commercial, surprising after John Fogerty lashed out at the company when they used "Fortunate Son" in ads without his permission beginning in 2000. Fogerty doesn't control the rights to the songs he wrote for CCR, so they can be used without his consent.



Who'll Stop The Rain?



 
Group leader John Fogerty wrote this song. The song is often interpreted as a protest of the Vietnam War (like "Fortunate Son"), but when he performed it at the Arizona state fair in 2012, Fogerty told the crowd that he had been at Woodstock, watching the rain come down. He watched the festival goers dance in the rain, muddy, naked, cold, huddling together, and it just kept raining. So when he got back home after that weekend, he sat down and wrote "Who'll Stop the Rain," making it not a Vietnam protest at all, but a recounting of his Woodstock experience.


 
This was used in the 1978 motion picture of the same name starring Nick Nolte as a Vietnam veteran. The movie was going to be called Dog Soldiers, but when the producers got the rights to use this song, they changed the title to Who'll Stop The Rain.


 
This was released as the B-side to "Travelin' Band." It's one of the many CCR singles to stall at #2. Creedence Clearwater Revival never had a #1 hit in the US.


 
The line, "I went down Virginia, seekin' shelter from the storm" gave Bob Dylan the idea for the title of his 1975 song "Shelter From The Storm."


 
This is one of many rain-themed CCR songs, including "Have You Ever Seen the Rain?"



 
When interviewed by Rolling Stone magazine, John Fogerty was asked, "Does 'Who'll Stop The Rain' contain lyrically specific meanings besides the symbolic dimension?" His response: "Certainly, I was talking about Washington when I wrote the song, but I remember bringing the master version of the song home and playing it. My son Josh was four years old at the time, and after he heard it, he said, 'Daddy stop the rain.' And my wife and I looked at each other and said, 'Well, not quite.'"



 





 
 




 

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01/2/2018 10:34 am  #662


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Aye, it is a great album: I used to have it- and even I Heard it through the Grapevine was ok. They liked to play 'tight' with little variation or improvisation. Imagine their gigs would be like that too.

Up Around The Bend is such a memorable song.

 

01/2/2018 11:46 am  #663


Re: 1001 albums you must hear before you die

DAY 176
Derek And The Dominos.............................Layla And Other Assorted Love Songs      (1970)








An almost fictitious group ended up making a double vinyl that, though it bombed at the time has since been re-evaluated as a rock classic thanks to it's title track single success.


The Derek in question was Eric Clapton who, after stints with various high flying groups, recruited a band and created his first solo gem

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01/2/2018 11:54 pm  #664


Re: 1001 albums you must hear before you die

The answers to the lyrics were ( if anyone's interested)



1960


Now, when I was a young boy
At the age of five
My mother said I was gonna be
The greatest man alive  


Mannish Boy by Muddy Waters from   Muddy Waters At Newport.                         





1961....... (the only one that's no' in the book) 1961 only had one artist, and I don't think anyone new him.



Somebody said he came from New Orleans Where he got in a fight over a Cajun Queen
And a crashin' blow from a huge right hand Sent a Louisiana fellow to the promised land,


Big Bad John  by   Jimmy Dean


1962

They say that time
Heals a broken heart



I Can't Stop Lovin' You   By   Ray Charles  from   Modern Sounds In Country & Western Music





1963

You know I'll always be your slave
'Till I'm buried and buried in my grave



Bring It On Home   by Sam Cooke   from   Live At The Harlem Square Club


1964


Show him that you care just for him
Do the things he likes to do
Wear your hair just for him, 'cause
You won't get him


Wishin' and Hopin'   by Dusty Springfield   from    A Girl Like Dusty


1965


I don't mind other guys dancing with my girl
That's fine, I know them all pretty well
But I know sometimes I must get out in the light


The Kids Are Alright   By The Who   from    My Generation



1966


With your sheets like metal and your belt like lace,
And your deck of cards missing the jack and the ace,


Sad-eyed Lady Of The Lowlands    Bob Dylan   from   Blonde On Blonde


1967


When you think the night has seen your mind
That inside you're twisted and unkind
Let me stand to show that you are blind
Please put down your hands
'Cause I see you


I'll Be Your Mirror   by    The Velvet Underground   from The Velvet Underground And Nico

1968


Hey so my name
Is called Disturbance
I'll shout and scream
I'll kill the king, I'll rail at all his servants


Street Fighting Man     The Rolling Stones   from   Beggars Banquet







1969



So you got to give it up
You know you can't get enough Miss Mackenzie
Cause it gets in your brain
It drives you insane
Leaping frenzy

Kick out The Jams (Motherfuckers)   by    MC5   from   Kick Out The Jams.
 


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02/2/2018 12:02 am  #665


Re: 1001 albums you must hear before you die

DAY 176
Derek And The Dominos.............................Layla And Other Assorted Love Songs      (1970)








As it's a double album, will do the second disc early tomorrow morning, no' minding the music so far, but never liked Clapton as a person, full of his own self importance, and for what he done to poor wee Dode Harrison the cunt would deffo be called slowhand,  "see how you play Layla wi' just yer pinky and your thumb you fanny?"


Will finish this in the morning!


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02/2/2018 9:10 am  #666


Re: 1001 albums you must hear before you die

DAY 176
Derek And The Dominos.............................Layla And Other Assorted Love Songs      (1970)








Although I really don't like Clapton, I hope that would never cloud my thoughts on any of his or others that I dislikes music (there's quite a list of people I don't like but enjoy their music)


Double albums are ok if there is a lot of variation on them, I found this one had a lot of good material but I struggled to enjoy it as for me, I found all very samey


Now if it had been chopped down to a single album, it may not have become as boring as it did for me, the quality of musicianship is without a doubt first class and individually the tracks were on the whole enjoyable, but just to much of a guitarfest for me, I'm sure there are many people who love this type of thing and good luck to them "different strokes" and all that, but for the above reasons this wont be going into my collection.



Bits & Bobs;


This song is about George Harrison's wife, Pattie. She and Clapton began living together in 1974 and married in 1979. Clapton and Harrison remained good friends, with George playing at their wedding along with Paul McCartney and Ringo Starr. Clapton left her for actress Lory Del Santo (with whom he had his son, Conor) in 1985. In an article published in The Guardian December 13, 2008, Pattie said: "I wasn't so happy when Eric wrote 'Layla,' while I was still married to George. I felt I was being exposed. I was amazed and thrilled at the song - it was so passionate and devastatingly dramatic - but I wanted to hang on to my marriage. Eric made this public declaration of love. I resisted his attentions for a long time - I didn't want to leave my husband. But obviously when things got so excruciatingly bad for George and me it was the end of our relationship. We both had to move on. Layla was based on a book by a 12th-century Persian poet called Nizami about a man who is in love with an unobtainable woman. The song was fantastically painful and beautiful. After I married Eric we were invited out for an evening and he was sitting round playing his guitar while I was trying on dresses upstairs. I was taking so long and I was panicking about my hair, my clothes, everything, and I came downstairs expecting him to really berate me but he said, 'Listen to this!' In the time I had taken to get ready he had written "Wonderful Tonight."

I was a bit more hurt when Eric wrote Old Love (1989). The end of a relationship is a sad enough thing, but to then have Eric writing about it as well. It makes me more sad, I think, because I can't answer back."


 
Clapton was seeing Pattie Harrison and deeply in love with her when he wrote this. A lot of people knew about the affair, since it wasn't easy for someone as famous as Clapton to keep a secret. Bobby Whitlock, who was in the band and good friends with both Harrison and Clapton, told us: "I was there when they were supposedly sneaking around. You don't sneak very well when you're a world figure. He was all hot on Pattie and I was dating her sister. They had this thing going on that supposedly was behind George's back. Well, George didn't really care. He said, 'You can have her.' That kind of defuses it when Eric says, 'I'm taking your wife' and he says, 'Take her.' They got married and evidently, she wasn't what he wanted after all. The hunt was better than the kill. That happens, but apparently Pattie is real happy now with some guy who's not a guitar player. Good for her and good for Eric for moving on with his life. George got on with his life, that's for sure."


 
The lyrics are based on the book by Persian poet Nizami, Layla and Majnun, about a man in love with a woman who cannot have her because her parents object. When they cannot be together, he goes insane. Clapton's situation with Pattie was different, but he liked the title and the theme of unattainable love.


 

Duane Allman came up with the famous guitar riff and played lead with Clapton. The riff was based on one Albert King played on his song "As The Years Go Passing By," but considerably sped up.




Allman ended up playing on the album through good timing and a mutual admiration between he and Clapton. Tom Dowd was producing the Allman Brothers' album Idlewild South at Criteria Studios in Miami when he got the call that Clapton would like to book time with his new band. Duane was a huge fan of Clapton, and when the Allman Brothers played a show in Miami on August 26, 1970, it was when Derek and the Dominos were recording with Dowd at Criteria. Duane called to see if he could stop by after the gig, and Clapton decided to bring his band to the show. At the show, Duane froze up when he saw Clapton near the stage, but the admiration was mutual, and Clapton arranged for Duane to keep coming by and help with the album. Duane would fly in between Allman Brothers shows, and after recording a few songs with Derek and the Dominos, he worked with them on "Layla" the final day of the recording sessions: September 9th.


 
An edited version was released as a single in 1971. it ran 2:43 and flopped on the charts. The full, 7:10 version was released a year later and became one of the most famous songs in rock history. Allman's death in a motorcycle accident in October 1971 helped renew interest in the song.


 
Clapton went into a drug-filled depression when the single tanked in 1971. He couldn't understand why it wasn't a hit. The record company did very little to advertise the album, figuring any project with Clapton would get plenty of publicity. It eventually did, and the record company made out very well.


 

Derek and the Dominos formed after Eric Clapton, Bobby Whitlock, Carl Radle and Jim Gordon worked on George Harrison's first post-Beatles album, All Things Must Pass. They got together at Clapton's house in England and started writing songs and playing small clubs. Bobby Whitlock explained in his Songfacts interview: "We toured all over England. We did a club tour, and no ticket was over a pound. It was all word of mouth. We played the Speakeasy in London and The Marquee Club, then we played some really funky places up in Nottingham and Plymouth and Bornmouth - we went all over Great Britain. Here we were, these so called "big rock stars," and we were playing these funky places that would hold like 200 people. Of course, people were jam packed and spilling out on the streets and stuff. It was pretty wild, it was a great time. We did this one tour, we rode around in Eric's Mercedes. We were all crammed in one car. The second time we went out in Great Britain, we upscaled it. We played small concert venues - Royal Albert Hall and places like that. We went down to Miami, recorded the Layla album and went on tour in the United States. We preceded the record for the most part. All Things Must Pass Came Out, it was a big record, "My Seet Lord" was #1. We were on the road in the United States, George was playing all over. We were all over the radio with our playing with George, and the album Layla - nobody could get it."


 
The group did a lot of drugs while they were recording the album - there's even a picture as part of the album art of Duane making a phone call, which Whitlock says was to score drugs from Georgia. While drugs led to a lot of problems down the line for the band and most of their members, it didn't hurt their performance on the album - Clapton even said that the drugs may have helped the recording process.


 
 Pattie Boyd wrote: "We met secretly at a flat in South Kensington. Eric Clapton had asked me to come because he wanted me to listen to a new number he had written. He switched on the tape machine, turned up the volume and played me the most powerful, moving song I had ever heard. It was Layla, about a man who falls hopelessly in love with a woman who loves him but is unavailable. He played it to me two or three times, all the while watching my face intently for my reaction. My first thought was: 'Oh God, everyone's going to know this is about me.'




I was married to Eric's close friend, George Harrison, but Eric had been making his desire for me clear for months. I felt uncomfortable that he was pushing me in a direction in which I wasn't certain I wanted to go. But with the realization that I had inspired such passion and creativity, the song got the better of me. I could resist no longer."


 
Clapton's affair with Patti Harrison wasn't a big concern with the band. Says Whitlock, "It was nobody's business. They were adults making adult, life-altering decisions."


 
At the end of the song, Dwayne Allman produced the "crying bird" sound with his guitar while Clapton played acoustic. It was a tribute to Charlie Parker, a jazz legend known as "bird."



 
The piano piece at the end was edited on a few weeks later. Drummer Jim Gordon came up with it as a solo project and had to be convinced to use it on "Layla." Gordon was one of the most successful session drummers of the late 1960s and early 1970s, playing on many classic albums of the time. Sadly, in the mid 1970s, severe psychological problems began to manifest in Gordon's behavior. He complained of hearing voices, especially the voice of his mother. By the late '70s, Gordon's mental difficulties - later diagnosed as acute paranoid schizophrenia - had ruined his musical career. In 1983, Gordon brutally murdered his own mother using a claw hammer. The insanity defense having been narrowed in California, Gordon was convicted of second-degree murder in 1984 and sentenced to 16 years to life. If he ever gets out of jail, Gordon will have lots of money waiting for him as a result of his songwriting credit on this track.


 
The piano at the end has become a cultural touchstone. It was used to great effect at the end of the movie Goodfellas, and radio stations almost always play the version with the piano. At the time, not everyone liked it. Whitlock told us, "I hated it. The original 'Layla' didn't have a piano part. When we did the song, we didn't have a piano part in mind. Jim was playing it, and Eric said, 'What about that - that's good.' Jim's not a piano player. He plays so straight - everything is right on the money. They wanted me to give it some feel, so Jim recorded it, I recorded it, Tom Dowd mixed them together. It's two different takes."


 
Clapton performed a slow, acoustic version for an MTV Unplugged concert in 1992. It was released as a single and made #12 in the US, getting lots of airplay on pop, rock, and adult contemporary radio stations. This version also won a Grammy for Best Rock Song.


  
The band broke up when they tried to record a second album. Clapton and Gordon had a falling out in the studio, which ended the sessions and marked the end of the band. Says Whitlock, "Eric says it was drugs and paranoia. It was just a lot of everything. We were road weary. We did 50-something dates in as many days in the United States. I would wake up and not even know where I was. They didn't expect us to live very long anyway. We surprised them, at least a couple of us did - Eric and myself. That was it." Carl Radle died of heroin-related kidney failure in 1980.


 
As a tribute to Jimi Hendrix, Derek and the Dominos recorded a version of his "Little Wing" the same day,. Hendrix died nine days later.



 Jim Gordon's then-girlfriend Rita Coolidge claimed in her memoir Delta Lady, that she wrote the song's piano coda. The singer-songwriter maintained that it came from a track called "Time (Don't Get In Our Way)" written by her and Gordon. "We played the song for Eric Clapton in England. I remember sitting at the piano in Olympic Studios while Eric listened to me play it," she recalled. "Jim and I left a cassette of the demo, hoping of course that he might cover it."




A year later, having split up with Gordon, Coolidge heard "Layla" for the first time. "I was infuriated," she remembered. "What they had clearly done was take the song Jim and I had written, jettisoned the lyrics and tacked it to the end of Eric's song. It was almost the same."
Derek and the Dominos only released the one album; the group fell apart while attempting to lay down tracks for their second album. But between the band’s shady origins and its initial commercial failure, it’s no surprise that Derek and the Dominos called it quits. The rampant drug use of its members contributed to the band's rapid dissolution as well.


 "It frightens me to think about it," Clapton recalled in an interview. "It was cocaine and heroin and it wore the band down and a hostility was released that hadn’t been there before. When drugs or medication enter the picture, something happens to relationships. They just dissolve. Whatever held us together got thrown out and the atmosphere was so bad you could cut it with a knife."


 The dark cloud seemed to linger over the band’s former members once they went their separate ways. The years of substance abuse took their toll, too: in 1980, bassist Carl Raddle died from a kidney infection associated with excessive drug and alcohol use. He was 37 years old.


 Derek and the Dominos drummer Jim Gordon spent the 1970s fueled by booze, heroin, and cocaine, and struggling with acute schizophrenia. During this period, he began to hear his mother’s voice, among others. He stopped sleeping and eating properly and couldn’t even play the drums anymore.


 Multiple physicians blamed his substance abuse, and he was treated for alcoholism instead of schizophrenia. His paranoia spiraled out of control in June of 1983, when he became convinced that his 71-year old mother was evil. Gordon bludgeoned her to death with a hammer and stabbed her with a butcher knife. He was sentenced 16 years to life in prison and has been denied parole several times.





 

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02/2/2018 11:10 am  #667


Re: 1001 albums you must hear before you die

DAY 177.
Miles Davis.........................................Bitches Brew   (1970)









Recording sessions for Witches Brew began at 8am on Augest 18, 1969, a few hours after Jimi Hendrix had demolished "The Star Spangled Banner" at Woodstock, and it is Hendrix's incendiary voice that haunts this double (FFS!!!)  album.


Miles wanted the loose limbed jam sessions of Electric Ladyland but, like most interesting homages, Bitches Brew sounds nothing like ot's source. nor does it resemble the "jazz-rock" that it pioneered.


The backbeats are relatively orthodox, whipcrack rimshots ( what a name that could be for a band The Whipcrack Rimshots) rumbling kick drums, and rubbery baselines borrowed from Sly and The Family Stone.Everything else is from another planet.


I thought I'd seen the back of this charlatan!
 


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02/2/2018 3:13 pm  #668


Re: 1001 albums you must hear before you die

arabchanter wrote:

  

As a tribute to Jimi Hendrix, Derek and the Dominos recorded a version of his "Little Wing" the same day,. Hendrix died nine days later.

Nae wonder Hendrix died.

 

02/2/2018 3:17 pm  #669


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arabchanter wrote:

   




 

Guid cover but.........................

My heart goes out to you if you attempt to listen to this in one session.
 

 

02/2/2018 11:53 pm  #670


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PatReilly wrote:

Guid cover but.........................

My heart goes out to you if you attempt to listen to this in one session.
 

Was never gonna happen Pat, a double album for starters, and it being thon Davis bloke, in a oner, and wi' my staying power and love of jazz.........Nah!!
 


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03/2/2018 12:03 am  #671


Re: 1001 albums you must hear before you die

DAY 177.
Miles Davis.........................................Bitches Brew   (1970)












Just done the first 47 minutes of this album (side 1 & 2 and can't say it's going well) will resume tomorrow and listen to side 3&4.


To be honest I dinny ken how I'll be able to sleep the night, wi' the sheer excitement and anticipation o' knowing I've got this to look forward to when I get up.  (sweet dreams eh!)


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03/2/2018 10:30 am  #672


Re: 1001 albums you must hear before you die

DAY 177.
Miles Davis.........................................Bitches Brew   (1970)












Just spent the last three quarters of an hour listening to this unadulterated PISH,  if you are even thinking of listening to this DON'T, how anybody can call this cacophony, music is beyond me, he's an absolute chancer.


Bits & Bobs;   

This is the fourth album I've listened to in this book, so there must be some bits & bobs about him posted earlier but be like me , and leave well alone, you have been warned.


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03/2/2018 1:44 pm  #673


Re: 1001 albums you must hear before you die

Day 178.
Spirit.............................Twelve Dreams Of Dr. Sardonicus    (1970)









Feelings could not have been worse when Spirit recorded Twelve Dreams Of Dr. Sardonicus. Luckily David Briggs, who worked with Neil Young, managed to harness all the animosity into Spirits masterwork.


The album was enriched by meaty horn arrangements, imaginative vocal harmonies and a structured approach to psychedelic studio trickery such as stereo panning and tapes run backwards. The band experimented with the new Moog, and unveiled perfect rock singles in "Mr Skin" and the funky "Animal Zoo."  It also spawned a classic FM single, the acoustic treat "Nature's Way"



Oh, and "Dr Sardonicus?" It is the nickname Spirit coined for the mixing desk at the studio.




















 


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03/2/2018 5:58 pm  #674


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I'm going to predict you'll quite like this album: my sister owned it, and I secretly enjoyed most of the songs, which were short and a wee bit poppy. 
 

 

04/2/2018 10:30 am  #675


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shedboy wrote:

Love this album AC! so much i may just stick it on now

Good to see you back shedboy, yeah it's a beezer of an album right enough  
 


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