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06/1/2018 7:37 pm  #26


Re: The Csaba effect

playing mason and moving robson to right back was a fucking ridiculous move from the manager. he should have changed the shape at half time. fucking brutal and huge questions need to be asked of the manager after today. what a fucking disgrace.



 
 

06/1/2018 7:45 pm  #27


Re: The Csaba effect

Arabzone have put the full post match up:

https://youtu.be/EB3NMP-C61A

He's partly to blame though for that team selection of square pegs in round holes all over the pitch.

Last edited by lifesanocean (06/1/2018 8:02 pm)


Too much commotion
 

06/1/2018 10:34 pm  #28


Re: The Csaba effect

There is obviously a need for the manager to look at himself after today but the players are the ones that have let everyone down. They are meant to be professional athletes who train and play for by far the biggest team in the league. To a man they need to grow a set of fucking balls and take responsibility on the pitch to actually give a fuck. To lose five goals in one half to Falkirk should shame each and everyone of them for the rest of their careers (or what’s left of it now)

We can take losing a game, but not in that manner. That just screams of players who are cowards and want to hide behind others when the going gets even slightly tough. Strangely not one of them on social media tonight, but hey ho maybe they are all out in Glasgow lording it up.

I wasn’t there today but I’d be interested to hear what they did at the end, bet they never came over to the supporters left to apologise for the shambles.

Was going to go to Dunfermline next week but fuck that their not worth giving my time and money until I can see some fucking heart for them.

Fucking Wankers

 

06/1/2018 10:44 pm  #29


Re: The Csaba effect

Mass Debates wrote:

There is obviously a need for the manager to look at himself after today but the players are the ones that have let everyone down. They are meant to be professional athletes who train and play for by far the biggest team in the league. To a man they need to grow a set of fucking balls and take responsibility on the pitch to actually give a fuck. To lose five goals in one half to Falkirk should shame each and everyone of them for the rest of their careers (or what’s left of it now)

We can take losing a game, but not in that manner. That just screams of players who are cowards and want to hide behind others when the going gets even slightly tough. Strangely not one of them on social media tonight, but hey ho maybe they are all out in Glasgow lording it up.

I wasn’t there today but I’d be interested to hear what they did at the end, bet they never came over to the supporters left to apologise for the shambles.

Was going to go to Dunfermline next week but fuck that their not worth giving my time and money until I can see some fucking heart for them.

Fucking Wankers

 " i wasnt there today"

 

06/1/2018 10:46 pm  #30


Re: The Csaba effect

What’s that meant to mean?

 

06/1/2018 10:49 pm  #31


Re: The Csaba effect

Mass Debates wrote:

To lose five goals in one half to Falkirk should shame each and everyone of them for the rest of their careers (or what’s left of it now)

was only 4 in second half

​should have been 5 in first half right enough was that bad.



 
 

06/1/2018 10:54 pm  #32


Re: The Csaba effect

I apologise for the rant it maybe wasn’t that bad then 😂

 

06/1/2018 11:16 pm  #33


Re: The Csaba effect

lifesanocean wrote:

Arabzone have put the full post match up:

https://youtu.be/EB3NMP-C61A

He's partly to blame though for that team selection of square pegs in round holes all over the pitch.

Looks like todays performance has Rocked the Csaba,
 

 

07/1/2018 1:44 am  #34


Re: The Csaba effect

Billy_Hainey wrote:

lifesanocean wrote:

Arabzone have put the full post match up:

https://youtu.be/EB3NMP-C61A

He's partly to blame though for that team selection of square pegs in round holes all over the pitch.

Looks like todays performance has Rocked the Csaba,
 

The performance today was gutless spineless and pathetic from I to XI plus subs. Csaba needs Derren Brown's motivational psychological skills to get that team up
 

 

07/1/2018 2:33 am  #35


Re: The Csaba effect

Just listened to his post match ramble. Maybe a language thing but he didn't fill me with confidence that he knows what went wrong or that he knows what to do to put it right. Been here before. 


Bring back the (real) "United Way" not the kiddy-on Martin version
 

07/1/2018 3:25 am  #36


Re: The Csaba effect

annanarab wrote:

Just listened to his post match ramble. Maybe a language thing but he didn't fill me with confidence that he knows what went wrong or that he knows what to do to put it right. Been here before. 

I hate to say this. But I agree with you.

He is (reading between the lines) saying the right things and he is clearly a proud and passionate football man.

But...and I hate saying this honestly. It does just sounds like a ramble really. Now that is more than probably purely down to his broken English of course. But it is worrying me that his pidgin English is making it more difficult to get through to the players than it needs to be. I am hoping that I am wrong in these ascertions. Very wrong.

But the results are so erratic. 

A good Manager (always) makes you hard to beat firstly imo.
 

 

07/1/2018 11:53 am  #37


Re: The Csaba effect

On reflection it appears from the body language right from the start that the players weren't happy with the team selection or tactics either and as soon as we lost a goal it looked like they went in the huff and were basically saying "I told you so." McDonald is the worst offender, but Keatings (as usual) and surprisingly Scobbie looked nervous and downcast. Flood was back to the Flood under McKinnon.   Could the reason Csaba looks so upset in that video be that he's given them a bollocking at the end of the game and some players had a go back at him about his team selection? Just speculating. None of this exempts the shocking performance and attitude of the players yesterday btw.

Last edited by lifesanocean (07/1/2018 11:53 am)


Too much commotion
 

07/1/2018 12:44 pm  #38


Re: The Csaba effect

lifesanocean wrote:

On reflection it appears from the body language right from the start that the players weren't happy with the team selection or tactics either and as soon as we lost a goal it looked like they went in the huff and were basically saying "I told you so." McDonald is the worst offender, but Keatings (as usual) and surprisingly Scobbie looked nervous and downcast. Flood was back to the Flood under McKinnon.   Could the reason Csaba looks so upset in that video be that he's given them a bollocking at the end of the game and some players had a go back at him about his team selection? Just speculating. None of this exempts the shocking performance and attitude of the players yesterday btw.

I'm not for a minute sticking up for any of them imposters regarding yesterday however the set up was all wrong and even the 4 were lads behind me at the match could see it. Brandon Mason " premiership class" and " top quality full back at the highest level" we're the talk from the barns pretty soon turned to the lads having a nightmare. That was from boys about 12 year old.

The players would be right to have a go back because that was madness yesterday and there was so many errors from everyone that the manager should have put as many players back in their favoured positions.

One other thing even although I said I wouldn't defend any of the players- James Keatings at right midfield ( never in a million years) position ally all over the place and gave no protection at all to the out of position Robson, but this lad had trained twice until last week and quite clearly from the first whistle was being asked to do things he wasn't used to.

That aside effort and fight are your given at the start of the match and none can look themselves in the mirror including the coaching staff. That was unacceptable yesterday and something we had better never see again.
 

 

07/1/2018 6:30 pm  #39


Re: The Csaba effect

Not so much an interview, more of a cry for help

 

07/1/2018 6:42 pm  #40


Re: The Csaba effect

Csaba was hopefully upset at his own stupidity. I'm praying he isn't one of these arrogant guys who thinks everything is someone else's fault.

His team selection for Est End Park will be informative.

On another matter, does anyone think Harry Lewis might be short sighted?

 

08/1/2018 1:47 am  #41


Re: The Csaba effect

Training should be a doddle this week. Warm up, a wee kick-a-bout, some work on the skills deficiencies (ok a lot of work) and a 2 hour spell everyday reviewing the match pinpointing everything that went wrong, what should have been done and who should have done it. Hopefully by the time I've finished my hospo at East End Park next week I'll see my in-laws moaning about how a team that can lose 6 to 2nd bottom Falkirk can turn them over. PS United you are due me double attacking next week to make up for zero attacking v Falkirk


Bring back the (real) "United Way" not the kiddy-on Martin version
 

08/1/2018 3:14 pm  #42


Re: The Csaba effect

shedboy wrote:

Lewis is young - maybe should drop him though.

I am led to believe that it is part of his loan deal if fit he has to starts and wonder if its the same with Mason?

 

11/1/2018 1:00 am  #43


Re: The Csaba effect

Rays win rate this season (18 games) was 67% which wasn't good enough to keep his job
Csaba's win rate (9 games) is 56%.

Rays "lose" rate this season was 22%
Csaba's lose rate is 33%

Admittedly Ray got the benefit of 5 more games against lower league opposition (plus 2 against PL Dundee). However I expected a higher win rate and a lower lose rate from Csaba and I didn't expect a 6-1 thumping from the 2nd bottom side. Not impressed


Bring back the (real) "United Way" not the kiddy-on Martin version
 

11/1/2018 8:18 am  #44


Re: The Csaba effect

These figures don't look good admittedly, but they don't take into consideration the switch in Rays setup to Csaba's , plus the fact that our injury problem (almost crisis imo) just now is forcing players to be played out of position (falkirk excluded), causing a total lack of consistency throughout the squad, also as pointed out the 9 game deficit in which time percentages could change dramaticly (for the worse as well as for the good granted). Still think Csaba is the right man .... at the moment anyway.

 

11/1/2018 10:27 am  #45


Re: The Csaba effect

Said it at the time loosing players of fyvie and frasers quality was the end of us, and I’ve been proving right got to feel for Csaba

 

11/1/2018 10:29 am  #46


Re: The Csaba effect

SuperMario wrote:

Said it at the time loosing players of fyvie and frasers quality was the end of us, and I’ve been proving right got to feel for Csaba

 
The end of us. Settle.

 

11/1/2018 11:40 am  #47


Re: The Csaba effect

I'm maybe clutching at straws but surely St. Mirren will hit a bumpy patch sooner or later. They are no great shakes and I'm sure a few injuries or suspensions would affect them just as much if not more than us.


 

 

11/1/2018 12:07 pm  #48


Re: The Csaba effect

I agree that St. Mirren will lose games between now and the end of the season; the issue is that we might not be able to take advantage of them doing that.

 

11/1/2018 1:30 pm  #49


Re: The Csaba effect

SlatefordArab wrote:

I agree that St. Mirren will lose games between now and the end of the season; the issue is that we might not be able to take advantage of them doing that.

Agree...it's whether we're up to the fight or not.

Up until Saturday, I was in the 'Csaba is the Saviour' camp but he got found out good and proper.  If he cannot get a reaction from the team and pick up 3pts on Saturday then I don't see how he can lead us to winning the league.

A thin silver lining though is that as deflating as the results in Paisley and Falkirk have been...the fact is that winning the league is still in our own hands. 

 

 

11/1/2018 1:40 pm  #50


Re: The Csaba effect

SuperMario wrote:

Said it at the time loosing players of fyvie and frasers quality was the end of us, and I’ve been proving right got to feel for Csaba

 


So thats it then yeh?
The end?
January and we are giving up.

Perfect

Not the first january the club have given up.



 
 

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