Hamilton v NewRangers has nothing to do with us.

I'm puzzled why we are getting in a state about a press report, where the reporter has contradicted himself several times over the past few months.

And I'm wondering why we aren't up in arms to the same extent about Simon Murray's move to Hibs. Have we to wait until a journalist informs us that Murray wasn't offered a contract in time for us to get compensation?

PatReilly wrote:

Hamilton v NewRangers has nothing to do with us.

I'm puzzled why we are getting in a state about a press report, where the reporter has contradicted himself several times over the past few months.

And I'm wondering why we aren't up in arms to the same extent about Simon Murray's move to Hibs. Have we to wait until a journalist informs us that Murray wasn't offered a contract in time for us to get compensation?

Simon Murray's 25.


 

Here's something that doesn't often happen...............

Apologies, Tek and bowers, surely shome mistake by me: I forgot Simon had reached 25, thought he was 20 when he signed for us, but it was 22. And thought the compo arrangement was for players 24 or under, reading the SPFL rules again, it's 23.

BUT my point stands: the United board gets pelters for a lot of things, deservedly , but this isn't one. We don't know the true story behind Spittal's departure, the journalist certainly doesn't either, and the lad wasn't rated highly by a large number of supporters anyway. Plus I'd argue the management teams he's had to cope with haven't been beneficial to his career.

If looking for a major beef with the board, for me it is possibly their poor choices as manager over the past 4 years.

And if it's to do with their compensation dealings, it would be their acceptance of the Telfer argument that he had been with the Huns since he was 12: that cost us circa £200,000. There was no 'potential' about that, our board accepted a falsehood as a fact.

Spittal might have had some potential but under 3 different managers at Tannadice, this potential was never realised and wasn't even close to being an automatic pick. I wouldn't have offered him terms on the same/higher basis to what he was on as he would have been only been a squad player. Its a bit of a cheek to suggest that we could be due a development fee when we didn't actually develop him and we didn't actually want him. Mind you Sevco got £200k for Rangers not developing Telfer so my arguments out the window

would thistle have taken him if there was compo involved?
would anyone?

Ex Houston Arab wrote:

I think the issue is being clouded a bit here.
Granted, there is some inconsistency to the journalists timeline but the fact remains we didn't receive any compo.
Also, it's not a 'deal or no deal what's in the box scenario. They make an offer and we get the opportunity to match it.
If we had any relationship with the player, we go into it knowing what his intentions are.
This is real low hanging fruit for getting money and any board that can't do the easy stuff should rightfully be questioned.
If our 5 year plan is based around our youth academy I would say it's fair to be concerned by the fact we don't know how to get compensation for players moving on.

The rules don't have anything about the old club getting a chance to match the offer from the new club, as far as I've read Ex Houston Arab.

Beardy23 wrote:

would thistle have taken him if there was compo involved?
would anyone?

If we had offered Spittal the same terms he'd previously been on in the top league, he'd have jumped at it, I'm sure. And nobody would have matched it, because that would trigger the compensation requirement. He'd have gone nowhere, like Sibbald at Falkirk.

It's a shit situation, for clubs and players.
 

Ex Houston Arab wrote:

Rumours at the match today we would be borrowing again in November.
I'd say that will keep pressure on the board when it comes to things like this because, from the outside looking in, they don't look very competent imho.

 
And what exactly are they going to secure the next set of loans against?

All these moans about Spittal cash, 4231, Ray, ticket queues and everyone's forgetting the real issue at the club, we're far too close to the edge for comfort.