Exactly it's nothing to do with religion.

What a deeply sad day today.

getting to the point you are scared to take your kids anywhere.

Utter cowards.

 

Fucking horrible
Place full of kids coward

Two guys i know daughters were down at it ans safe couldnt even imagine to think how they would gave felt when they got the call

Once again we have seen an atrocity by followers of what is claimed to be the religion of peace, although the nail bombs etc deployed by these monsters tell the truth, as do fellow posters here when they say the actions of the cowardly scum have nothing to do with religion. A concert patronised by many youngsters in Manchester ended with 22 dead and 60 wounded and maimed. It is reported that security services were aware of the potential for such an attack and knew the identity of the bomber and associates, The question has to be why are these people permitted to remain among us? They obviously consider themselves at war with us. At the beginning of WW2 many Italians and Germans living and working here in Britain were identified as potential enemy agents and interned in camps in such places as the Isle of Man. I needn't expand on that, I'm sure you get my drift..... Around 23,000 jihadist extremists currently living in the UK have been identified by intelligence services as potential terrorists, the Times reports, citing government officials. About 3,000 of those are under investigation as possible threats. If these people are indeed threats then wouldn't you think all 23000 would be considered likewise?

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TheShed wrote:

There have always been and always will be terrorist attacks, doesn't matter what's done there will always be nutters with some excuse religious, political or whatever they use as an excuse. Shit as that may be that's the way it is.

So are you proposing we do nothing but roll over and meekly wait for the next time?  And make no mistake, if we do as you imply, then there will be a next time!

Leedsy2 wrote:

TheShed wrote:

There have always been and always will be terrorist attacks, doesn't matter what's done there will always be nutters with some excuse religious, political or whatever they use as an excuse. Shit as that may be that's the way it is.

So are you proposing we do nothing but roll over and meekly wait for the next time?  And make no mistake, if we do as you imply, then there will be a next time!

 
Did I say that?

What I said was there have always been terrorists attacks and there always will be nutters with some excuse to commit them, no matter what is done.  Is any of that wrong?

Let's just say we wiped every Muslim off the planet tomorrow, like some people would like, do you think that'd be the last ever terrorist attack?

BTW do you not think that our government, by taking part in illegal bombings in other countries is also committing terrorist attacks?

Should we all be blown off planet earth too since we're British and part of the country with the worst record in the world for committing mass atrocities?

TheShed wrote:

Should we all be blown off planet earth too since we're British and part of the country with the worst record in the world for committing mass atrocities?

A worse record even than Hitler's Germany? Or Stalin's Soviet Union?
Or some African and Asian nations?

You appear to have an anti-British bias......

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TheShed wrote:

Leedsy2 wrote:

TheShed wrote:

Should we all be blown off planet earth too since we're British and part of the country with the worst record in the world for committing mass atrocities?

A worse record even than Hitler's Germany? Or Stalin's Soviet Union?
You appear to have an anti-British bias......

 
Yes the British record over the years is far worse, no bias just the facts.

U not want to answer the questions?

I would answer your questions if you didn't spout such garbage! The Nazi regime killed 6 million Jews and many, many others, while the Soviets death toll surpasses even that. Off you pop and learn some history. I have no more to say to you......

 

Leedsy one of the biggest acts of genocide in human history was what european settlers did to native americans.

They weren't Muslim.Not a one of them.

Incidentally the atrocities and Genocide Britain carried out in Kenya and particulary India should never be forgotten.

 

RRDH wrote:

Proper mental stuff here.  Go look up how many millions of Russians have died under communism or Chinese or fucking North Korea.  Yeah there's plenty in Britain's past to feel shame about but you can't tie that to this generation.

Fact is there's a not insignificant amount of Muslim extremists who want to see you and your families dead. These cunts want to live in the fucking stone age. Tossing fucking homosexuals off buildings, lashing them, lashing or stoning suspected adulterers.  If there ideology is tied to the fucking stone age and they want to kill us.  Fucking blow them right back to the stone age.

Fucking shocking how something like this happens and folk are bringing up things that happened hundreds of years ago. Like some sort of justification to sit on our fucking hands and not address the obvious.  Countries fucked.

 
So by that logic the British of hundreds of years ago should have been blown away too then, meaning none of us would exist?

No one is saying nothing should be done to stop terrorism, but if you believe that blowing all muslims back to the Stone Age, because of a tiny percentage of them are nuts will stop it then quite simply you're wrong.

Maybe we should stop indirectly and directly for that matter funding them. Maybe we should stop selling weapons to countries funding them.

Who armed Iraq to fight Iran?
Who armed Al-Qaeda to fight Iraq?
Who armed ISIS to fight Al-Qaeda?
Who are we arming now to fight ISIS?, because they'll be the next lot to emerge

There are things which can be done to lower, not stop,  the chances of tragedies like Manchester, but our government have no interest in doing them.

Some of you sound as if you regret being British and would rather be anything else! It beats me how you can be absolutely incandescent with fury at some trivial footballing incident yet so blase about the bombing, the rape and ruination of thousands of our young females, and the potential destruction of our way of life and traditions with the connivance of our traitorous politicians. When the SHTF, as it inevitably will, will you come out of the pubs and offer resistance?  I very much doubt it. Most of you can't even watch a game of football without a bellyful of booze! I fucking despair......

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TheShed wrote:

Maybe it's different in Leeds, but round here the muslims get on with their lives, mix as much as anyone else does and not one of those I know has ever mentioned religion never mind sharia law if that's what you're worried about.
Then again maybe it's not that much different in Leeds and you just believe what you want to believe instead of reality.

It certainly is different here, and across Yorkshire and Lancashire and many other places. Muslims here are in such numbers that they can create their own enclaves and transform entire districts into no-go areas where such services as the fire brigade refuse to go and even the police balk at the idea. That's reality! And if you are too blinkered to accept what I say, come on down here for a week or so, and I'll show you round.

Oh, and I didn't dispute that in the past we British committed what you describe as atrocities. What I do take exception to is your accusation that we were worse even than Hitler, Stalin, and co.

PatReilly wrote:

I'm not proud to be British, too nationalistic to think that way from my point of view. Nor am I proud to be a 'citizen of the world'. 

Generally, the human race is going about fucking itself up in the angriest, most selfish ways imaginable.

 

I am proud to be British when I consider the myriad achievements of my antecedents. Here are a couple of lists of things which have benefited Mankind:

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Scottish_inventions_and_discoveries

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_English_inventions_and_discoveries

Aren't these records of which to be proud?

And now, having made my point,  I am withdrawing from this particular thread. Thanks to all for participating.
 

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