That's where I'm at with it.
If you do get it right, it can be a lot more permanent as well.
When the sfa took Levein off of us it was because they wanted a coach.
No one usually poaches a DOF.

It's just worrying that one coach can cause so much damage in such a short time.

Ha, the long and the short of it is it would be great having leveling back to sort out the club structure again! Think houston and Jackie dined out on the results of the foundation he laid.
Need him back to sort it out again.

Would a DoF not just present an opportunity to balls-up an appointment.
At least when you've only got a manager it's just one appointment to make a **** of?
So ok, it sounds like a good idea but the candidate is the key, not the title.
The title is good but would the incumbent?
There's not many Craig Leveins about.

smedDUm wrote:

Would a DoF not just present an opportunity to balls-up an appointment.
At least when you've only got a manager it's just one appointment to make a **** of?
So ok, it sounds like a good idea but the candidate is the key, not the title.
The title is good but would the incumbent?
There's not many Craig Leveins about.

 
Yes, yes it would. The short sighted cheap option for what should be the most long sighted important position in the club.

https://www.eveningtelegraph.co.uk/fp/taylor-handed-new-tannadice-post/

Still, I'm sure he has a great list of contacts and experience from his time at lochee united.
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Not wanting to dismiss this appointment before it's began, but Darren Taylor is part of the set up in place presently.

When Jackie was making obvious errors, let's say using the same tactics game after games against St Johnstone and failing, I wondered why Simon Donnelly or Darren Jackson didn't try to make him see things in a different manner.

Similarly, Mixu for example having the keeper taking goal kicks out towards our own corner flags, Demel in wide midfield, and many other gross errors: why didn't Gordon Young speak up?

Now we have an in-house appointment of a member of staff who it appears agrees with Raymond on such detail as shoe-horning Toshney into the side when fit, or deploying VDV on the left wing.

So I'm not turning cartwheels.

A pathetic appointment.

The guy has been Ray's mate for years.

Jobs for the boys pish.Up there with handing Bowman the Development Manager gig.

Giving jobs to ...well...just whoever's in the background.

Btw i am 100% against appointing a DoF anyway and I'll tell you why.

It's a delegation of responsibility.

If things aren't going well....who do you point the finger at?

1.The DoF who has recruited shite players?

Or

2.The shite Manager who hasn't gotten the best out of the (potentially) good signings the DoF has made?

Or

3.Both?

Recruitment of players should ALWAYS be the remit of the 1st Team Manager.

That we are even needing to create this role would seem to say to me that Ray can't be trusted to sign the requisite standard of player required.

So we are now paying 2 wages for what should be under the remit of tge 1st Team Manager.It's astonishing.

Oh and regards Levein coming in and taking control of everything from the youth academy upwards...that is correct.

But he relied heavily on Peter Houston who took most of the coaching sessions and was constantly away scouting players in England etc.

 

whether he will be any good only time will tell. He is already a club employee so its probably the only way we could get a DOF without adding to the wage bill. He was a decent centre forward during his time at Thomson Park good touch but not enough pace.

David_Blunket wrote:

See, the way I see it is.

I thought you were blind......
 

Canadian Arab wrote:

Does sound more like a chief scout than a DoF, and definitely not Ray's boss. He made it very clear that all signing decisions are Ray's. All he does is identifies guys who are realistic targets, and those who are not due to unreasonable salary demands, being pish etc., which is something Ray was doing part-time until this appointment. Frees up Ray to focus on coaching and management. On the face of it, seems like an appointment that could benefit the first team almost immediately, if this lad is capable of spotting a player and can actually do the job he has been hired to do.

Sorry but I dont see how Ray or any other manager/head coach can focus on the 1st team, players recruitment, youth development at the same time and do a great job on all. If the 1st team is struggling, everyone will be expecting the focus to be on the first team and not recruitment & youth dev. In this post-Bosman/selling club/smaller squad environment, we need to have a constant focus on recruitment and youth dev. otherwise we keep wasting dosh on the duds we've been signing and the concept of  bringing through the Russells/Goodwillies/Artmstrongs et al is a thing of the past.

My other big bugbear is that we have no performance management arrangements in place to arrest a decline other than sacking a guy when its too late and the damage has been done and we simply rely on a clueless chairman to appoint another cheap dud to continue the decline.  

Yeah remember Bowman saying 'he can play' in an interview. 
Only thing is, he even looked overweight in the highlights from the U20s game. 

This was also before Templeton came on trial and if we're signing him, then maybe we dont need this cassima laddie. Sounds a bit like sour grapes if im honest. 
 

SuperMario wrote:

Templeton has signed for Hamilton

Until the end of hte season.
Its reported we are 'in the driving seat' to sign him for next season.