Canadian Arab wrote:

blackandtangerine wrote:

Are you pissed off? If you are are you just happy to sit over in canada and do fuck all about it. Just let the club meander on hopelessly into the abyss. That of course is entirely up to you BUT the boys, girls , women and men that decided to protest got off their arses and got it in the national press and tv that all is not well within tannadice, because lets be honest the national press arnt interested in us and the local press wont bite the hand that feeds them. So if a wee protest can raise a wee bit of a reaction then good i say. The people that started it up are amongst the most diehard fans of our club that go every week and if they can see whats going on first hand then i praise them. Maybe ( and this is not a go at you ) if you were closer to home then youd see it in a different perspective.

No one claims to have the answer but folk are sick fed up of where our clubs heading.
 

All you've done is confirm, once again, that you're pissed off and you've had another go at someone who isn't going along with your protest. Which is what I've said you're doing in my earlier comments. What you still haven't done is told me what your plan is and what you hope the protests will accomplish that will move things in a positive direction. I'm not going to waste my time protesting for protesting's sake. Because in the absence of a plan that involves protests moving things forward, that's all it is.
You're the ones protesting - not me. If you want me to join you, you had better be able to explain exactly what you're trying to achieve. That's something you've yet to do.
On a side note, I'm surprised that people unhappy with United's leadership managed to get a mention in the weegie press. After all, they always want to see United doing well, and it's absolutely not all about spinning bullshit to the weegie hordes.

I read your first two sentences and gave up. Im not part of the protest group so i dont know about their plans. Im just saying theyve had enough of all the lies and bullshit thats emanated from within our club and are making a stand. If folk want to sit on their hands and do nothing then thats entirely their perogative as well.

Last im saying on the subject.


 

Canadian Arab wrote:

Okay, I'm not going to "sit on my hands" any longer.

I'm going to climb to the top of a very high building and jump off, and splatter myself all over the pavement below, to draw attention to how pissed off I am about what's going on at United. I have no idea whether that will change anything, but I need to do SOMETHING. Might even get into the weegie papers.

So who's with me?

Anyone?

Just curious, have you devoted any such sarcasm or scrutiny to the bald greedy bastard running our Club into the dirt as you have towards a group of concerned to fuck supporters? 

On one hand you've got a boardroom responsible for...
hiring shit managers
paying a management team to sell players
flogging 12 million plus of talent... club in the financial shitter anyway
flogging our best player (Armstrong) plus GMS on the deadline and conceding a league cup in the process.
relegation
fannying about in Australia while we fanny about at the bottom of the SPL
allowing our Youth coach to be vilified and subsequently leave
making an absolute cunt of every transfer window going on 3 years now

But yeah, on the other hand...
A section of our support wants to do some sort of protest against the direction of the Club so yeah, lets ridicule the fuck out of them?





 

shedboy wrote:

We could all do fuck all about it and accept the disgrace that is being served from chairman and manager.

Oh in fact the majority of us are doing nothing except moan (including myself).

Bizarrely, any protest group (and at least FU care enough to try something) needs exactly what we lack in this club to bring together the beleaguered support.  Strong Leadership and communication.

I hope that happens.

If we could get 100's of arabs to do a walk out at the final after 5 mins throwing scarfs onto pitch whilst chanting Thompson out (other songs available) - that may get some press. prob is numbers then the likely happy clappers having a go for blasphemy then it kicking off.  

Problem is everyone pissed off but no one got a strategy (including me).

What a good post
 

Canadian Arab wrote:

RRDH wrote:

A section of our support wants to do some sort of protest against the direction of the Club so yeah, lets ridicule the fuck out of them?

As for ridicule, jumping off a building to draw attention to myself and demanding that people join me in an utterly pointless exercise is not much different from taking part in a protest to draw attention to myself and demanding that people join me in an utterly pointless exercise. Neither will achieve anything.

If you have an objective for these protests that will move things forward, why won't you tell me what it is?

Absolutely unbelievable comparison
 

scarpia wrote:

blackandtangerine wrote:

Canadian Arab wrote:

As for ridicule, jumping off a building to draw attention to myself and demanding that people join me in an utterly pointless exercise is not much different from taking part in a protest to draw attention to myself and demanding that people join me in an utterly pointless exercise. Neither will achieve anything.

If you have an objective for these protests that will move things forward, why won't you tell me what it is?

Absolutely unbelievable comparison
 

And yet we still await a answer to the question...

 

You're asking the wrong person then.

I cant speak for fu but ive already said my bit. Folk have simply had enough of the shite weve had to endure both on and off the park so are protesting. They obviously feel its better to do that than just sit there and say nothing while our club goes down the slippery slope. Maybe just maybe the protests will be the start of something . Our " berlin wall" if you like.
 

smedDUm wrote:

Best post on this thread is #25 from GC2.

It's worth keeping in mind at all times that opinions on these forums are polarised.
There is a large middle-ground majority who appreciate things could be better on & off the field but are still happy to go along supporting as per usual, we've seen it all before, football, as life, is full of peaks & troughs & lots of stuff in the middle.

Ultimately tho, it's all about results, nothing else. If we were sitting top of the league there wouldn't be a protestor (or an accountant) in sight.

Meanwhile we have a game tomorrow, let's all support our beloved Club.


 

We all do support our beloved club though. Just not the scheisters that are running it.
 

TheShed wrote:

Even those who were most opposed to the protest seem to mostly be agreed that change is needed. It would appear it's only really the methods to get change that are causing the disagreements.

I would also say that those who have protested have given there own reasons for protesting, some people seem to be getting caught up in a myth that everyone protesting and posting on sites like this represent fans United and can speak for them, that's not the case. I certainly can't, I represent myself. Maybe if folk want the answers to the questions they keep repeating, they should ask the right people, instead of harping on they don't get any answers.

Yes, change may be needed but it's not going to happen. Simply because nobody wants to buy the Club.
There's is NOBODY in the potential investor queue. The Club is officially up for sale but you can hear the silence.
Even if the Club was sold for a knock-down price there would be no rush of plausible new ownership. Unless there's someone out there who doesn't mind burning millions.
 

TheShed wrote:

smedDUm wrote:

TheShed wrote:

Even those who were most opposed to the protest seem to mostly be agreed that change is needed. It would appear it's only really the methods to get change that are causing the disagreements.

I would also say that those who have protested have given there own reasons for protesting, some people seem to be getting caught up in a myth that everyone protesting and posting on sites like this represent fans United and can speak for them, that's not the case. I certainly can't, I represent myself. Maybe if folk want the answers to the questions they keep repeating, they should ask the right people, instead of harping on they don't get any answers.

Yes, change may be needed but it's not going to happen. Simply because nobody wants to buy the Club.
There's is NOBODY in the potential investor queue. The Club is officially up for sale but you can hear the silence.
Even if the Club was sold for a knock-down price there would be no rush of plausible new ownership. Unless there's someone out there who doesn't mind burning millions.
 

 
That may be true, it may not be, I've heard otherwise but don't have all the details to know for certain.

IMO the best change would be a regime change, but if that's not possible like you suggest, then I still feel that we should be trying to force change in the way the current regime run the club, so that the club still exists.

When did the current owners "officially" put the club up for sale btw?

Am I not right in saying that the current owner stated at the end of the last season that he would sell the Club under the right circumstances?
 

I googled Fans United Protest and got Leeds United & Carlisle United protest groups called that so at least we're not the only Disunited United, they're none too happy either!

Canadian Arab wrote:

RRDH wrote:

A section of our support wants to do some sort of protest against the direction of the Club so yeah, lets ridicule the fuck out of them?

As for ridicule, jumping off a building to draw attention to myself and demanding that people join me in an utterly pointless exercise is not much different from taking part in a protest to draw attention to myself and demanding that people join me in an utterly pointless exercise. Neither will achieve anything.

If you have an objective for these protests that will move things forward, why won't you tell me what it is?

Yes, how is this shower of drivel anything but sarcasm & ridicule?: "I'm going to climb to the top of a very high building and jump off, and splatter myself all over the pavement below, to draw attention to how pissed off I am about what's going on at United. I have no idea whether that will change anything, but I need to do SOMETHING. Might even get into the weegie papers."

Im not part of the group obviously as I'm based in the states but getting well and truly fucked off reading stuff like this from afar.  I'm sorry you dont have your answers, I'll hazard a guess that the members have jobs to go to for a start so you might be waiting longer still.

At the end of the day, they're concerned United Supporters. It's got to the point now where anyone sympathetic to the groups aims are expected to give fucking committee meeting notes & objectives.  All this energy having a go at each other is better spent directed at those running the Club. 

Canadian Arab wrote:

RRDH wrote:

Yes, how is this shower of drivel anything but sarcasm & ridicule?: "I'm going to climb to the top of a very high building and jump off, and splatter myself all over the pavement below, to draw attention to how pissed off I am about what's going on at United. I have no idea whether that will change anything, but I need to do SOMETHING. Might even get into the weegie papers."

Im not part of the group obviously as I'm based in the states but getting well and truly fucked off reading stuff like this from afar.  I'm sorry you dont have your answers, I'll hazard a guess that the members have jobs to go to for a start so you might be waiting longer still.

At the end of the day, they're concerned United Supporters. It's got to the point now where anyone sympathetic to the groups aims are expected to give fucking committee meeting notes & objectives.  All this energy having a go at each other is better spent directed at those running the Club. 

I look forward to yet another response labelling me as a happy clapper from overseas who doesn't care and who doesn't have a clue, blah blah blah, but which WON'T answer my fucking question. Alternatively I won't get any response, because they're so busy at their jobs that they don't have time to answer, but they're not too busy to organise a protest group without having any fucking clue what it is that they're trying to achieve.

and see that... thats pure unhelpful conjecture.  It's quite clear what they'd ultimately like to achieve.  They're looking for a change at boardroom level as should everyone else.  Many of us have come to the conclusion that this would be best for the club.  How we get there is another matter.  Whether you agree with a protest or not, I dont see why they should be subject to contempt unless you're genuinely ok with what's happening at our Club.

See watching that shite the other day, I could not give one fuck if they decide to hold another protest during a game.  

Canadian Arab wrote:

RRDH wrote:

and see that... thats pure unhelpful conjecture.  It's quite clear what they'd ultimately like to achieve.  They're looking for a change at boardroom level as should everyone else.  Many of us have come to the conclusion that this would be best for the club.  How we get there is another matter.  Whether you agree with a protest or not, I dont see why they should be subject to contempt unless you're genuinely ok with what's happening at our Club.

See watching that shite the other day, I could not give one fuck if they decide to hold another protest during a game.  

Yes, I'd like to see boardroom changes too. The Board knows that fans are not happy. I don't understand why the folk organise the protest think that protesting is going to bring positive change around any quicker or make positive change more likely. There's the risk that protests will cause some on the Board, including Thompson, to say "Fuck this", and sell up to the first scheister that comes along. Then we could be even more fucked.

The lads that are organising the protests should have asked themselves two questions initially:
1. What's the end result that we want to see from what ever action we take?
2. How do we move things towards that end goal in a way that gives us a decent chance of getting there, while minimising the risk of making things worse?

Presumably, the answer to the first question involves either the current board doing things differently, or replacement of the current board with a new board that will do things differently?

Beyond that, I'm not sure they've considered the second question. Instead, it seems like some guy has stood up and said "Right, let's have a fucking protest". Which I don't think is a viable answer to question 2.

That's why I'm asking these questions.
 

 
Do you actually believe he won't sell to the first 'scheister' who comes along?? He'll sell to anyone if he gets enough money. Do you think he's going to knock someone back that he doesn't think is suitable?? No chance.

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