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09/3/2017 5:45 pm  #1


Protest

Reading mad and see the protest is firmly on.

Firstly I back the right to protest but feel this is the wrong game to do it in.

Out of interest - are the organisers affiliated with the display team? 1 seems to have a v positive result and 1 seems to have a v negative result


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09/3/2017 5:54 pm  #2


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What's on the cards Tangy?

 

09/3/2017 6:35 pm  #3


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No its fuck all to do with the display team!



 
 

09/3/2017 6:59 pm  #4


 

09/3/2017 7:05 pm  #5


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​Aye. It's understandable that folk are frustrated, but it seems the support is divided about the timing of this. Putting it mildly.
 

 

09/3/2017 7:09 pm  #6


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bowers wrote:

No its fuck all to do with the display team!

 

Just asking. Cheers for clearing it up 👍


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09/3/2017 7:16 pm  #7


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Whether people agree on the timing we agreed to start the ball rolling on friday and its going ahead.

Thompson has to leave ASAP of that there is no debate, he's had enough time to sort things out but its crystal clear we're losing a ridiculous amount of money every week with no plan to stop this other than Andy Robertson being sold on.

Our club is on the brink so if you really care look into fans united and find out what we're about rather than getting anti us.

We want to put money into the club and assist any buyers taking over from Thompson.

 

09/3/2017 7:46 pm  #8


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Fans United doesn't seem an apt name at the moment. More like fans divided at the moment. Rediculous timing for a protest. Important game for the team, this is an unwelcome distraction. I'll be attending the game to support and treating this with the contempt it deserves.
I want Thompson out as much as the next man but protests at the games is not the way forward.

 

09/3/2017 7:53 pm  #9


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For anyone saying this isn't the way forward, what is?

Sitting down, shutting up and watching the club die?
More time for the supporters liaison group to work? (Another group that Thompson doesn't even sit in the meetings with)
Pray?
Get Jim Spence in to fix it?

FFS of course it's not good timing, there isn't a good time but I'm glad this is finally happening rather than nothing happening and things continuing to get worse with nobody saying a word like the last 2 years.

 

09/3/2017 7:53 pm  #10


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Canadian Arab wrote:

Arab_plumber wrote:

Thompson has to leave ASAP of that there is no debate

Maybe, but you seem to want him to leave NOW, and without a succession plan in place, I think you might find there is some debate.

Arab_plumber wrote:

Our club is on the brink

On the brink of what, exactly?

A must-win game, and some folk think this

is the best time to stage a protest?

Ffs the club had to get a loan to survive the rest of the season. If that's not on the brink I'd hate to think what is.


 

 

09/3/2017 7:54 pm  #11


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As much as I don't like Thompson, would it no be better to have the protest before or after the game, even at half-time, rather than during the match.

Hope this doesna have a negative effect on the squad.

 

09/3/2017 7:56 pm  #12


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Billy_Hainey wrote:

As much as I don't like Thompson, would it no be better to have the protest before or after the game, even at half-time, rather than during the match.

Hope this doesna have a negative effect on the squad.

 
The threat of maybe not getting paid doesn't seem to have had a good effect on the squad or results the last 2 months.  Maybe they'll join in the chants?

 

09/3/2017 7:57 pm  #13


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Just see the whole thing as unprofessional. Why are many people just finding out about the group now via a flyer? If this group has been proactive in trying to oust Thompson and have discussions with board members etc as I read on another forum, why have they been doing this in secrecy. I'm hearing the group has money to invest etc, why not disclose the plans/amounts etc?
The way things have been done is going to get very few Arabs back the group without details and the protest has many fans turning against the group at a very early stage.

 

09/3/2017 8:09 pm  #14


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Arab_plumber wrote:

so if you really care look into fans united and find out what we're about rather than getting anti us.

Any links? Can't find any.

No being funny but your words I quoted need considered in both directions. If you are to Unite the fans a bit of diplomacy and less insulting each others opinion will be needed or you create a split before you've started.
Some fans are already talking about drowning out the chant with boos due to the timing of this during a big match that means a lot.
You might loose support you may have gained due to timing and make ST seem more supported than he actually is as a result.








 

 

09/3/2017 8:10 pm  #15


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Dirk Diggler wrote:

Just see the whole thing as unprofessional. Why are many people just finding out about the group now via a flyer? If this group has been proactive in trying to oust Thompson and have discussions with board members etc as I read on another forum, why have they been doing this in secrecy. I'm hearing the group has money to invest etc, why not disclose the plans/amounts etc?
The way things have been done is going to get very few Arabs back the group without details and the protest has many fans turning against the group at a very early stage.

 
So basically u don't like it cos nobody told u earlier about the fans group.

Unprofessional by the way is how the club is being run and unsustainable.  Clubs dying, it's time for people who care to help it survive.

 

09/3/2017 8:13 pm  #16


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TheShed wrote:

Dirk Diggler wrote:

Just see the whole thing as unprofessional. Why are many people just finding out about the group now via a flyer? If this group has been proactive in trying to oust Thompson and have discussions with board members etc as I read on another forum, why have they been doing this in secrecy. I'm hearing the group has money to invest etc, why not disclose the plans/amounts etc?
The way things have been done is going to get very few Arabs back the group without details and the protest has many fans turning against the group at a very early stage.

 
So basically u don't like it cos nobody told u earlier about the fans group.

Unprofessional by the way is how the club is being run and unsustainable.  Clubs dying, it's time for people who care to help it survive.

 

I think plenty fans will agree with both these points.

 

09/3/2017 8:22 pm  #17


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When UfC started they had two mass meetings.  Firstly, at the University where about 500 turned up and secondly in the Caird Hall where about 1500 - 2000 turned up.  At both the organisers clearly spelled out their concerns about the running of the club, what they wanted to see happen and then took questions, many of which were from very sceptical fans.  They were also open to ideas and suggestions of the way forward.  One thing they did ask at the time (but said they felt it was the last resort) was if fans were willing to protest at games if the regime continuted to make a chunt of running the club and would not walk away.  Punters at the time if memory serves said they did not want to see this happen. It eventually happened over a year later but not in an organised fashion after the Hearts 4-0 game/wee Jim lamping John Barnes and was borne out of exasperation at all the South American shite wee Jim has brought in.  It wasn't organised it was more spontaneous. The Fans United group appear to be moving straight to Defcon 4 which for me is wrong:

a) because it is at a vital game where the team need everyone pulling in one direction.
b) the worry is that it causes angry scenes if people who disagree with it turn on those doing it or, vice versa.

Tbh, TEK had a 5 post exchange with them earlier on Twitter asking a few questions about the group and basically got spoken to as if he was fucking stupid.  If a nippy, aggressive attitude is all the group is going to display its not going to win over large sceptical sections of the support or going to make 'Fans United'.  This is just the same attitude displayed by several posters on the boards that have pissed a lot of folk off already despite many (like me) being fed up about the decline of the club and open to the idea of getting rid of Thompson.

Personally, I am sympathetic to the groups aims, but am yet to be convinced about their methods.


 

Last edited by lifesanocean (09/3/2017 8:26 pm)


Too much commotion
 

09/3/2017 8:25 pm  #18


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The majority want ST out for sure. No one thinks he is doing a great job.

Everyone is shooting down each others ideas on how to do it best without really coming up with a good plan, barking at each others opinions in between and creating factions, cliques and bad feelings against each other.

I notice some of you post with a more of slant on who you want to be in with. Basically kissing each others arses and going no where fast.

It's getting ridiculous and embarrassing.

Need more ideas on how to actually Unite and get what the majority want without making what's bad worse and fast.

 

09/3/2017 8:30 pm  #19


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lifesanocean wrote:

When UfC started they had two mass meetings.  Firstly, at the University where about 500 turned up and secondly in the Caird Hall where about 1500 - 2000 turned up.  At both the organisers clearly spelled out their concerns about the running of the club, what they wanted to see happen and then took questions, many of which were from very sceptical fans.  They were also open to ideas and suggestions of the way forward.  One thing they did ask at the time (but said they felt it was the last resort) was if fans were willing to protest at games if the regime continuted to make a chunt of running the club and would not walk away.  Punters at the time if memory serves said they did not want to see this happen. It eventually happened over a year later but not in an organised fashion after the Hearts 4-0 game/wee Jim lamping John Barnes and was borne out of exasperation at all the South American shite wee Jim has brought in.  It wasn't organised it was more spontaneous. The Fans United group appear to be moving straight to Defcon 4 which for me is wrong:

a) because it is at a vital game where the team need everyone pulling in one direction.
b) the worry is that it causes angry scenes if people who disagree with it turn on those doing it or, vice versa.

Tbh, TEK had a 5 post exchange with them earlier on Twitter asking a few questions about the group and basically got spoken to as if he was fucking stupid.  If a nippy, aggressive attitude is all the group is going to display its not going to win over large sceptical sections of the support or going to make 'Fans United'.  This is just the same attitude displayed by several posters on the boards that have pissed a lot of folk off already despite many (like me) being fed up about the decline of the club and open to the idea of getting rid of Thompson.

Personally, I am sympathetic to the groups aims, but am yet to be convinced about their methods.


 

Good post Nemo.

Was that Caird Hall meeting around 1999?
 

 

09/3/2017 8:41 pm  #20


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Canadian Arab wrote:

blackandtangerine wrote:

Ffs the club had to get a loan to survive the rest of the season. If that's not on the brink I'd hate to think what is.

So I've read comments from others who have said that despite how this loan makes things appear, the financial situation is not nearly as bad as you are making out, and we're nowhere near administration or anything like that.

The points they made seemed fair enough to me.

You might be right about the finances. Maybe it is this bad. Or maybe you're not. Maybe there isn't a huge problem. Maybe it's even worse. Maybe things are bad and the only reason we're still afloat is because Thompson keeps putting more money of his own in.

I have no idea. And I doubt that any of these protesters have all the details either.

 
It is very bad, we were days from running out of money, the money in isn't coming from Thompson.  After the summer who knows what happens, but if anything is going to happen then change will have to happen in some way. 

That isn't my opinion that is from info received from the 1 man who would know how bad things are. 

"Significant doubt about the companies ability to continue as a going concern". Does that quote from the accounts sound good to anyone?

 

09/3/2017 8:44 pm  #21


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Yes it was. Eddie Thompson was in the crowd and spoke near the end.
 


Too much commotion
 

09/3/2017 8:50 pm  #22


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lifesanocean wrote:

Yes it was. Eddie Thompson was in the crowd and spoke near the end.
 

 
I was there bud. Getting 1500-2000 together worked as I remember. Maybe need something similar in future to bring fans together and perhaps vote on the best way forward.

Nae offence to all Internet forum readers but the true opinion of the support is massively skewed online by a few maniacs more concerned about their own opinion than what's best for the Club.

 

09/3/2017 8:57 pm  #23


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Arabnophobia wrote:

lifesanocean wrote:

Yes it was. Eddie Thompson was in the crowd and spoke near the end.
 

 
I was there bud. Getting 1500-2000 together worked as I remember. Maybe need something similar in future to bring fans together and perhaps vote on the best way forward.

Nae offence to all Internet forum readers but the true opinion of the support is massively skewed online by a few maniacs more concerned about their own opinion than what's best for the Club.

 
Nobody who's protesting is doing so for any other reason than they're passion for the club.  Nobody wants this but what are the options?

 

09/3/2017 9:00 pm  #24


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Arabnophobia wrote:

lifesanocean wrote:

Yes it was. Eddie Thompson was in the crowd and spoke near the end.
 

 
I was there bud. Getting 1500-2000 together worked as I remember. Maybe need something similar in future to bring fans together and perhaps vote on the best way forward.

Nae offence to all Internet forum readers but the true opinion of the support is massively skewed online by a few maniacs more concerned about their own opinion than what's best for the Club.

Exactly.  Football forums and social media are NOT the best ways to win friends and influence people.  If people are serious they need to properly come out and face people putting their case across and answering difficult questions in a calm and rational manner.  (A bit like people want Thompson to do actually).

The image I have is of people calling other folk 'fannies' on Twitter when they question or criticise, screaming "It's oor club," at some bemused doorman outside the staff entrance because the boy wouldn't let folk run in and probably try to rip Thompson's head off after games towards the end of last season.  This might be the same people running this group, it might not be.  Either way some folk need to rein it in a bit if they are going to be successful.  They also need to be a willing to do something other than rabble rousing.
 

Last edited by lifesanocean (09/3/2017 9:21 pm)


Too much commotion
 

09/3/2017 9:11 pm  #25


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The UFC went about things the right way. Maybe a few thing to be learnt from their professionalism for fans unite

 

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