Tekel Towers » Goodie and d Robertson

motherwellarab · 17/1/2017 4:41 pm

Told to pay the girl there alleged to have raped 100 grand compensation, how can this be if they haven't ever been charged of anything at all

DontOfferMeThat · 17/1/2017 5:19 pm

They were charged, at least Goodwillie was, and if memory serves the case fell to pieces because the police failed to gather or store evidence (something along those lines) so they weren't exactly found not guilty. I believe they procurator fiscal paid out compensation to the young lady in the original trial? The civil court has a less exacting degree of proof I'm told.
Maybe someone else has a better memory/knowledge of the legal system and can fill in the blanks or correct my hazy memory ?

WeeDude_83 · 17/1/2017 5:20 pm

Tthe court of session only has to prove that something 'probably' happened and is at the decison of a judge, not a jury whereas the high court or whatever has to prove beyond all reasonable doubt that something happened.

Hence why its a civil action to sue them for cash.

Foo Kin Twat · 17/1/2017 5:32 pm

In Scot's Law there is a thing called the Burden of Proof.

In Criminal Law, the Crown/Prosecution must prove their case, "beyond reasonable doubt".

That is much higher than:

In Civil Law, where the Person bringing the case only needs to prove, "on the balance of probabilities" that something happened.

I'd suggest once you factor in drink, sloppy seconds, poor performance under cross examination etc that is why the lesser "proof" has won the day.

Bottom line is that anyone that thinks they can do what they want, especially with a woman, where you virtually need written consent now for sex, compared to the definition of rape from 30 years ago, which was "forcibly AND against the will" of a woman, ie you needed to prove both those things to get a rape conviction, whereas that is no longer the case, it is way less.

LOL WD83 I took too long to type mine!!!

Last edited by Foo Kin Twat (17/1/2017 5:35 pm)

PatReilly · 17/1/2017 6:41 pm

I need written consent from my wife for sex these days.

TheShed · 17/1/2017 7:48 pm

PatReilly wrote:
I need written consent from my wife for sex these days.

Me too, she can't bloody write either

PatReilly · 17/1/2017 8:27 pm

TheShed wrote:
PatReilly wrote:
I need written consent from my wife for sex these days.

Me too, she can't bloody write either

You been asking my wife for sex?

TheShed · 17/1/2017 8:57 pm

PatReilly wrote:
TheShed wrote:
PatReilly wrote:
I need written consent from my wife for sex these days.

Me too, she can't bloody write either
You been asking my wife for sex?

Aye, but her writings top drawer

PatReilly · 17/1/2017 9:51 pm

That's my writing: hers are kept in the sideboard.

PatReilly · 18/1/2017 12:36 am

Leaving aside the case and characters involved, I feel there's something very wrong with the system when a criminal trial couldn't precede, which would have involved a jury making a decision based on the evidence, but an auld cunt of a judge can decide to declare guilt of (an) individual(s), again based on the evidence which couldn't even get the case to the criminal court.

SuperMario · 18/1/2017 1:12 am

100% agree, seems absolutely outrageous tbh with u

Tek · 18/1/2017 1:21 am

PatReilly wrote:
Leaving aside the case and characters involved, I feel there's something very wrong with the system when a criminal trial couldn't precede, which would have involved a jury making a decision based on the evidence, but an auld cunt of a judge can decide to declare guilt of (an) individual(s), again based on the evidence which couldn't even get the case to the criminal court.

totally agree.

Smeared forever now with the term 'rapist' and it's never even been to trial infront a jury.

If they did rape the lassie they deserve everything they get of course (jail term,career over etc).

But i would prefer the case to have went to a full public trial rather than a 'kangaroo court' so we could make up our own minds as to their innocence or guilt.

TheShed · 18/1/2017 8:56 am

Tek wrote:
PatReilly wrote:
Leaving aside the case and characters involved, I feel there's something very wrong with the system when a criminal trial couldn't precede, which would have involved a jury making a decision based on the evidence, but an auld cunt of a judge can decide to declare guilt of (an) individual(s), again based on the evidence which couldn't even get the case to the criminal court.

totally agree.

Smeared forever now with the term 'rapist' and it's never even been to trial infront a jury.

If they did rape the lassie they deserve everything they get of course (jail term,career over etc).

But i would prefer the case to have went to a full public trial rather than a 'kangaroo court' so we could make up our own minds as to their innocence or guilt.

Yep, if they did it they should be jailed, if they didn't they should be free and the whole thing should have went away long before now.

Imagine being a victim of this, that compensation wouldn't make me less angry or destroyed by what had happened. Of course if u weren't really a victim it's now all been worth the smear campaign. I'm not suggesting which has happened in this case.

Essentially we now have country where if ur rich you can do what u want and pay ur way out, never going to jail, as longs ur a little bit careful. That's the dangerous message this case really throws up.

Billy_Hainey · 23/1/2017 3:38 pm

Roberston retires.

http://www.dailyrecord.co.uk/news/scottish-news/david-robertson-judged-rapist-denise-9676474

SlatefordArab · 23/1/2017 3:42 pm

Goodie will no doubt be punted from Plymouth and no other club will touch him with a barge-pole. Daft cunt.

Beardy23 · 23/1/2017 5:42 pm

We need to sign an exciting striker...just sayin

DontOfferMeThat · 23/1/2017 5:56 pm

Beardy23 wrote:
We need to sign an exciting striker...just sayin

You're having a laugh? Even ignoring the off-field debacle he was terrible when he came back on loan. Since 2011 he's played in 134 games and scored 18 times - no thanks

Billy_Hainey · 25/1/2017 5:11 pm

Goodie throws in the towel.

http://www.bbc.co.uk/sport/football/38743687