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24/9/2016 9:07 pm  #26


Re: DUFC v Morton - Saturday 24th September 3.00pm

SuperMario wrote:

Moaning for the sake of moaning

 


Far from it.

As said earlier post happy with the win but the performance was shite once again as has been most games so far



 
 

24/9/2016 11:13 pm  #27


Re: DUFC v Morton - Saturday 24th September 3.00pm

Positives from today
We won and got 3 points. We scored 2 goals. Thought the defence were a tad better than it was at Falkirk. Much better challenges today. Fought more for the ball.

Observations
We were missing Willo, and it was noticeable.

Bad points
We were all over the place for large part of the 1st half, due mainly to sloppy passes. The 2 corners played 1 after the other were a waste. No guarantee we'd 've scored, but to pass up to chances to put crosses into the box FFS. It's one of the things we've all been talking about.

 

25/9/2016 12:08 am  #28


Re: DUFC v Morton - Saturday 24th September 3.00pm

Even before we sold off the talent after the phase we  chanted "we only score 4" we didnt deserve to win by the margins we won by.

In this division it's mair about grinding results out as Hibs have experienced.

Valid opinions fae some who know the game and expect more but we have less cover than we need and it's always going to be a topsy turvy  season.

Hope the poor start has the opposition underestimating us more than parking the bus.

Expectations v hibs are lower than playing QoTS who are top of the league.

Fuckin  roller coaster of a year for sure. Few will gauge the season as it is.

Time to support mair than greet like spoiled bairns.

 

25/9/2016 8:14 am  #29


Re: DUFC v Morton - Saturday 24th September 3.00pm

Its fuck all about gteeting like spoilt bairns and not supporting the team everyone is there to support the team if its not good people will say how poor it is. The thing is as ive said it papers over the craxks of how bad we still are.


We got out of jail yestetday playing a shite morton team.



 
 

25/9/2016 8:56 am  #30


Re: DUFC v Morton - Saturday 24th September 3.00pm

Not pretty but after the week Utd have had, I'll take it. I thought the goal we lost has put a dampner on what was a big improvement defensively.

We deffo need to play VDV up front until we get another striker in. Obadeyi wide on one side and an other on the other side. Keep VDS at rb and put Toshney (who played well today) at ch when Flood/Murdoch come back.

Another abysmal refereeing performance again. The boy Quitongo got away with about 7 fouls without being booked. Gunning wiped out Obadeyi unpunished right before one of our players did the same thing and was given as a foul, leading to their goal.


Too much commotion
 

25/9/2016 9:42 am  #31


Re: DUFC v Morton - Saturday 24th September 3.00pm

people being overly critical.
Morton had one effort on goal and hit the post. Their goal wasn't even scored by them.
We dominated possession and were the only team that was trying to win.
Their keeper was time wasting at the start of the second half.
Was it a good performance - no, was it improved - yes.
It was good to see players in their correct positions (toshney, VDS) and just one holding mid.
Good tactical change at HT switching VDS with Murray. Brought Andreu into the game more.

Time wasting corners came at 86:30 then the 88th minute. This is a standard tactic by teams throughout the world. I'm shocked anyone is unhappy at this. We all agreed before kickoff a win was essential and adopted the correct tactics to do this.

Final note - ref was shocking - quitongo should've been booked for his first tackle on Dixon, the shirt pull came hard on the heels but nothing - his subsequent 6 fouls yielded nothing. Also where the fuck did he pull 5mins injury time from? Lucky if there was 1min

 

25/9/2016 10:00 am  #32


Re: DUFC v Morton - Saturday 24th September 3.00pm

Don't agree with you entirely EHA, about the time-wasting corners. Think it was as much about an element of low-confidence in the squad and a kinda desperation to try to hold onto the 3 points.

If Morton had scored off them, well that woulda been a different story. In the end of course, we got a 2nd goal.

Agree that it was a better performance than Falkirk. (wasna at the game during the week). Ref was totally dangle-berry. Agree we what you sayed about Katanga. Shoulda been carded much earlier defo. He books Durnan and Edge for mere trivia.

Last edited by Billy_Hainey (25/9/2016 10:11 am)

 

25/9/2016 10:20 am  #33


Re: DUFC v Morton - Saturday 24th September 3.00pm

BH, absolutely it was because we have low confidence and were desperate for 3 points.  That's why it was the right thing to do.  I'd love us to be better than that, but right now we aren't.

1 win games
2 build confidence
3 improve performances while still winning

It's not gonna happen in any different order.

 

25/9/2016 10:25 am  #34


Re: DUFC v Morton - Saturday 24th September 3.00pm

I'd agree it was a combination of both. If we were full of confidence we wouldn't be doing that, however i don't get how we come away from the game with a much needed win and this is one of the biggest talking points.
I still think we are very wasteful or lack a cutting edge. Murray up top on his own doesn't link well with the midfield. Neither plays to each other's strengths.
He started to look better when moved to the left.
How spittal starts over obadeyi - I don't know.
I liked the final 3 we finished with yesterday.
Special mention to durnan. When he kept it simple he done very well. Tackles were good. Still to ponderous on the ball but he seems to recognise that and just quickly moved it out to VDS most of the time. I thought he got a bit of the ball on his booking. Ref was at the wind up

Quick edit- VDV had been subbed by the time of the corners. We weren't pushing up our ch's either in case of a counter. If we whipped in a corner who would realistically win it?

Last edited by Ex Houston Arab (25/9/2016 10:28 am)

 

25/9/2016 7:08 pm  #35


Re: DUFC v Morton - Saturday 24th September 3.00pm

Was as annoyed as anyone else with the 85 minute time wasting at corners - the last time we started that sort of pish McPake score a last minute equaliser IIRC - however I think some of our fans need to realise that some games we are going to have to just grind out, even if it's not what we want to see as supporters.

​I thought defensively we looked fine yesterday and I can only think of bell making one save and that was prior to the boy hitting the post in the first half, apart fae that thought Edjenguele had the boy Katongo (sp) in his back pocket for the entire game, the two times he did escape from Edge Durnan was swiftly over with a tackle. Thought Durnan was also good yesterday and somewhat unfortunate to be booked.

​Going forward we were awful in the first half, second half the switch to 4-3-3 seemed to open up the game in our favour, Murray out on the left worked well I thought, with the RB not being able to play narrow and help out his centre backs for fear of Murrays pace. We deserved to win yesterday and only a Dillon error gave them their goal.

​One gripe for me more than anything is how poor our set piece deliveries are, with Durnan, Edge and VDV amongst others in the box we really need to start putting the ball in dangerous areas. Our corners and free kicks in and around the box were absolutely awful with the majority ending up out for a goal kick or a throw-in. Set pieces are crucial in this league, particularly at home when most teams are going to sit in for 60-70 mins and put bodies behind the ball.

 

25/9/2016 7:19 pm  #36


Re: DUFC v Morton - Saturday 24th September 3.00pm

it was a very nervy performance yesterday, which was to be expected.  it was potentially a pivotal 3 points a defeat really would have got the glass half empty boys frothing at the mouth.  Cant decide whether Dixon or Durnan was MOM But im going for Durnan as he has been out of the team for a month 

 

25/9/2016 7:46 pm  #37


Re: DUFC v Morton - Saturday 24th September 3.00pm

Durnan played well yesterday, defending and winning the ball solidly.......a pleasant change to see good old ball winning, hopefully he can keep it up if he manages to stay in team .........

 

26/9/2016 12:01 pm  #38


Re: DUFC v Morton - Saturday 24th September 3.00pm

I've been fairly positive this season so far. I've seen enough to think there's a good team there.

I can't say I enjoyed it on Saturday though, still too "tippy-tappy" for my liking with VDV being the biggest culprit. One incident springs to mind when he tried and failed to to a drag back (for no reason) then fouled the Morton player when he lost the ball. My 6 year old learned some new words after that!

And the corners at the end? If it had been 90+ mins on the clock, then OK. But 85, at home to Morton? A bit over-cautious I thought.

And finally, was impressed with Quitongo. Like Murray with a football brain.

 

26/9/2016 1:26 pm  #39


Re: DUFC v Morton - Saturday 24th September 3.00pm

Agree with that above.

Wasting time in the 90th minute and injury time... fair enough.

84th minute? Very negative tactics.

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26/9/2016 1:27 pm  #40


Re: DUFC v Morton - Saturday 24th September 3.00pm

Im not entirely sure why people are unhappy at the short corner. Its called game management. You're 1-0 up with 5 to go, you keep the ball. If you have the ball, they cant score. Its just common sense IMO. 

Positives - Durnan was imperious in the air and tackling., Made a couple of really good last ditch tackles/blocks. Won every header. Was asked to keep it simple and did it to the letter, bar his wee slip. 

Andreu will keep us in the promotion hunt single handedly. If he gets injured, we're fucked. 

VDV upfront meant we had something to hit and kept the ball well/won headers. Something Si couldnt do. 

VDS is better at RB than CB.

Tosher is much more comfortable in the middle, either CB or CM. Not RB.

Negatives - Spittal is a waste of a jersey just now, seems to be lacking confidence. Didnt take his player on and hit byline. Didnt want it IMO. I'd have him out for next week. 

Some of Cammy bells kicking was Szromnik-esque. 

Was a poor first half, no quality but once VDV went central we looked like a different side. 

 

 

26/9/2016 2:25 pm  #41


Re: DUFC v Morton - Saturday 24th September 3.00pm

Tek wrote:

Agree with that above.

Wasting time in the 90th minute and injury time... fair enough.

84th minute? Very negative tactics.

 
Might come across as pedantic but It wasn't the 84th minute.
It was 86th minute, almost 87th.
I don't know what the cut off for acceptable is, but if people are saying 90th then those couple of minutes matter.

I find it bizarre the level of focus this gets when we scored a goal after both the corners.
Obviously we were still attacking for that to happen.

If people focuses on the Dillon sub - I could see it or the Dillon on goal as being a concern - I'm all for it.

Again, I would've said 1min injury time as a maximum in that game so holding on to the ball with 3 minutes then again in the 88th minute after the week we had previously had didn't seem that bad to me.
All about opinions though.

 

26/9/2016 2:47 pm  #42


Re: DUFC v Morton - Saturday 24th September 3.00pm

I've been watching United since the late 70s and I can't remember them using the short corner tactic so early in a game. To me, it sends a signal to the opposition that we are scared of them. Ray McKinnon was quoted as saying last week that there would be no fear in his team.

 

 

26/9/2016 4:24 pm  #43


Re: DUFC v Morton - Saturday 24th September 3.00pm

The best way to win games is to score goals.

If we have a corner in the 85th minute (or 86th or 87th for the pedants 😏) then Jesus christ get it in the box and try and kill the game...by scoring.

We're hardly hanging on against Real in the Bernabau.

I'm hoping this tactic was just due to nervousness on this occasion.

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26/9/2016 4:47 pm  #44


Re: DUFC v Morton - Saturday 24th September 3.00pm

The only reason I know the time is because at the game I thought WTF are we doing. I then looked at our glorious scoreboard and saw it was 86:30something.
I can understand the frustration but the Dillon of upset me a lot more.
I think Ray is fully bought up member of the sfa training.
This identifies 'turnovers of possession' as the best scoring chances. Corners and opposition throws are seen as prime opportunities for this. After the turnover the next 30secs is seen as critical.
I imagine Ray was playing the percentages.
Quitongo was starting to get some joy out of edge. He probably didn't want to see him have another crack.
Our corners had been pish (when did we last score off one? Was it durnan in the 5-1 against killie? ) I'd like to think it was a one off but it might not be.
As long as  tony is fit it shouldn't matter haha

 

26/9/2016 8:21 pm  #45


Re: DUFC v Morton - Saturday 24th September 3.00pm

Don't know if it was a team decision or the Captains decision, but at tbe 2nd of the 2 corners, McKinnon was shouting and waving at the midfield to move up toward Morton's box.

As we all know they didn't, and it reminded me of looking down on a game of table football.

 

26/9/2016 11:17 pm  #46


Re: DUFC v Morton - Saturday 24th September 3.00pm

Maybe due to our last 2 managers having little or no true proven clue we are in danger of dissing the manager quicker.

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27/9/2016 1:50 pm  #47


Re: DUFC v Morton - Saturday 24th September 3.00pm

Now reflecting on the game, aye it was annoying that we took a tactical view of the corners later on, but we may not have got the second goal but for doing just that. 

And the second goal was important as it turned out, watched the Dillon og again, it was going straight into Bell's arms until Sean intervened.

Disappointed we are playing so much of the season without a recognised 'one' to play up front, but it was a big improvement when vdV was up there, hopefully he can start as our main forward, if nothing else has happened, at Easter Road.

 

27/9/2016 3:14 pm  #48


Re: DUFC v Morton - Saturday 24th September 3.00pm

A win's a win's a win as they say.
There was still a lot to like besides the obvious one of the three points.
A draw or a defeat there would have had the half-empties raging.
There were good mentions for Durnan, Dixon, Edgy then Frank & Toshers too.
And Tony of course. And Nick, I like Nick a lot. Those two are going to be pivotal this season.
I'm enjoying the C'ship, 11 of the 12 in the Prem are wasting their time.

 

27/9/2016 10:12 pm  #49


Re: DUFC v Morton - Saturday 24th September 3.00pm

3 points counted ......and last week almost forgotten already .

That's what counts in reality IMO

 

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