Tekel Towers » Jim Spence

Dragoodane Ristic · 13/5/2016 8:52 am

From reading his Twitter comments after his meeting with the Fed last night, it looks as though he's having second thoughts about his PR role at Tannadice. Says he feels his appointment isn't being particularly welcomed by fans. I, for one, welcome any attempt by United to unite the club and the fans again and I have an open mind about Jim's involvement. I reckon some folk think he might struggle to be objective though Thoughts?

Silver · 13/5/2016 9:03 am

I said on here that he'd be off his head to get involved in the petty shenanigans that are going on and I stand by that. No attempt by the club to repair any damage that's been done over the last 18 months or so will be ever be enough for a very small minority.

PatReilly · 13/5/2016 9:14 am

Here's a not so long shot: maybe he knows who made up yesterday's banners.

Tek · 13/5/2016 9:21 am

I found Spence's appointment in that role quite bewildering tbh.

arabchanter · 13/5/2016 9:24 am

Rather than galvanise the support,these lads are alienating more supporters by the day by there obsession with the Chairman.
If they just took a breath and stepped back and thought about what would be their next step if he went?
I also think Spence is on a loser from the start, there is a very small minority who although they shout the loudest should remember they are marching / protesting for themselves which they have ever right to do but they are NOT representing the fans as a whole,if they were a representation of the fans there would have been a hell of a lot more people at there marches and protests than the meagre ammount at their last minter showings

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Foo Kin Twat · 13/5/2016 10:15 am

Was he not meeting those in our support last night, who are pretty much entrenched in their positions that they will settle for nothing other than Thompson Out? And when asked the question, "But Who In?" then clam up? As I have said all along, whilst they appear to have some case(s) for Thompson to answer to us as a support, they are going about it and have gone about it in completely the wrong way. If you are going to hold a statesmanlike position in a representative organisation, you need to act in such a manner worthy of the role and in accordance with the constitution of the body you represent. And you need to be prepared to give a little as well as take a little.

Since Jim Spence has taken on the role there has been more info coming out of Tannadice than at any time in the last 18 months. Whilst that may be a coincidence, look at the joy on the faces of the supporters at the rearranged kit launch that almost never was. For sure we all need some more answers from the Chairman, but is it also fair for our new Manager to be starting work with all of this bollocks going on? I mean are people gonna be ruining pre season training too?

A big round table and open minded diplomacy is what is needed to afford us the best opportunity of getting ourselves out of this mess at the first time of asking. There are I am sure, plenty United fans like me that are affiliated to NEITHER of ArabTrust or the Fed? Perhaps someone in either or both can advise me, have you as an Individual Member of both/either been canvassed as to what your thoughts are on all things Dundee United and how things should go forward from here? If not, why not?

What's happened (us being shit and getting relegated) has happened. Our beautiful wife (Dundee United FC) that we love ALL love so much and let's face it we all punch above our weight in having a relationship with, has effectively cheated on us and we are feeling badly let down. Our options are patch things up with her for now and HOPEFULLY we will be able to trade her in for a better model in time; or ditch her in spite and take a chance we will find someone else we can trust on a par with her?

I know what road I'd rather go down....................

lifesanocean · 13/5/2016 10:25 am

Foo Kin Twat wrote:
Was he not meeting those in our support last night, who are pretty much entrenched in their positions that they will settle for nothing other than Thompson Out? And when asked the question, "But Who In?" then clam up? As I have said all along, whilst they appear to have some case(s) for Thompson to answer to us as a support, they are going about it and have gone about it in completely the wrong way. If you are going to hold a statesmanlike position in a representative organisation, you need to act in such a manner worthy of the role and in accordance with the constitution of the body you represent. And you need to be prepared to give a little as well as take a little.

Since Jim Spence has taken on the role there has been more info coming out of Tannadice than at any time in the last 18 months. Whilst that may be a coincidence, look at the joy on the faces of the supporters at the rearranged kit launch that almost never was. For sure we all need some more answers from the Chairman, but is it also fair for our new Manager to be starting work with all of this bollocks going on? I mean are people gonna be ruining pre season training too?

A big round table and open minded diplomacy is what is needed to afford us the best opportunity of getting ourselves out of this mess at the first time of asking. There are I am sure, plenty United fans like me that are affiliated to NEITHER of ArabTrust or the Fed? Perhaps someone in either or both can advise me, have you as an Individual Member of both/either been canvassed as to what your thoughts are on all things Dundee United and how things should go forward from here? If not, why not?

What's happened (us being shit and getting relegated) has happened. Our beautiful wife (Dundee United FC) that we love ALL love so much and let's face it we all punch above our weight in having a relationship with, has effectively cheated on us and we are feeling badly let down. Our options are patch things up with her for now and HOPEFULLY we will be able to trade her in for a better model in time; or ditch her in spite and take a chance we will find someone else we can trust on a par with her?

I know what road I'd rather go down....................

Great post. I mostly agree with what the protesters are saying, but the lack of a plan for if Thompson was to go is a real issue.

bowers · 13/5/2016 11:06 am

Jim Spence walked into that meeting last night and told the people that turned up that he was thinking of leaving his role already as he thought he didnt have the backing of the Fed and Trust. The guys from Fed told him they would back him and he said he would decide on his role. So what he has said on his twitter is lies.

The fed sent an email out to all member clubs this morning regarding the meeting and has been posted on social media also by a member club to show its members.

to add... The protest last week and banners that have went up are not anything to do with the Fed either.

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Silver · 13/5/2016 11:20 am

Whatever Spence has said on Twitter, or the Fed have said in a letter pales into insignificance when you deal with the FACT that a guy who was taken on by the club to act as a mediator is on the verge of chucking it 1 WEEK into the job!

Wow.

Trap_6 · 13/5/2016 11:45 am

Just to back up what bowers is saying, Spence came into the meeting and announced straight off the bat that he was out.

Every single person in the room, without exception, urged him to reconsider.

As for the 'Thompson Out' obsession, no-one was voicing that louder than Spence himself last night.

blackandtangerine · 13/5/2016 11:50 am

Trap_6 wrote:
Just to back up what bowers is saying, Spence came into the meeting and announced straight off the bat that he was out.

Every single person in the room, without exception, urged him to reconsider.

As for the 'Thompson Out' obsession, no-one was voicing that louder than Spence himself last night.

Spot on Trap 6.

Silver · 13/5/2016 11:54 am

You really couldn't make this shit up.

Basket case right enough.

blackandtangerine · 13/5/2016 11:58 am

Silver wrote:
You really couldn't make this shit up.

Basket case right enough.

If I'm being honest I think he's used the fans thing as an excuse to bail.

HeggyHandshake · 13/5/2016 12:06 pm

Jim Spence said he was leaving because the Club was completely fuked and didn't want his rep ruined, fair enough. He also said Laura Conway would follow him out the door. Spence said we didn't back him, to a man everyone said they would back him all the way.

We had our own meeting afterwards and a couple of the older lads said he is going to resign and blame it on us.

Trap6 was at his first meeting of this sort last night, he is in the same position as a lot of people on here who don't want to believe the shit we are in.

He now knows the truth.

HeggyHandshake · 13/5/2016 12:07 pm

blackandtangerine wrote:
Silver wrote:
You really couldn't make this shit up.

Basket case right enough.
If I'm being honest I think he's used the fans thing as an excuse to bail.

Not even any doubt about it.

Andy · 13/5/2016 12:08 pm

Spence has never been shy on giving his opinion on wanting ST out, and I'm sure ST knows this.

I thought appointing him was about trying to make peace for the short term.

No idea why Spence said what he did last night, maybe he just wants to feel loved, everyone to tell him how great he is and how everyone wants him to stay.

FWIW I think ST wants out too, but without a proposal to consider what can he do? Maybe is asking price is too high but he's not going to give the club away.

SGMilne · 13/5/2016 12:10 pm

The discussion then goes to this...

You would think this points to the club running out of money and going into administration.

But then why would Ray McKinnon take the post? Without being privvy to any discussions, my reading of the situation was that he took his time to sign on because he wasn't happy about the conditions he may have been asked to work under re: finance. What changed?

Silver · 13/5/2016 12:15 pm

For me, it's not a case of not wanting to believe anything.I know we're a fkn disaster of a club at the minute. I want to know what the realistic alternatives are.

No one is coming up with any solutions.

Sieb22 · 13/5/2016 12:16 pm

SGMilne wrote:
The discussion then goes to this...

You would think this points to the club running out of money and going into administration.

But then why would Ray McKinnon take the post? Without being privvy to any discussions, my reading of the situation was that he took his time to sign on because he wasn't happy about the conditions he may have been asked to work under re: finance. What changed?

Just a quick aside SGMilne, just checked out your blog/website today, I like it, well done mate

SGMilne · 13/5/2016 12:19 pm

Sieb22 wrote:
SGMilne wrote:
The discussion then goes to this...

You would think this points to the club running out of money and going into administration.

But then why would Ray McKinnon take the post? Without being privvy to any discussions, my reading of the situation was that he took his time to sign on because he wasn't happy about the conditions he may have been asked to work under re: finance. What changed?

Just a quick aside SGMilne, just checked out your blog/website today, I like it, well done mate

Cheers!

SGMilne · 13/5/2016 12:20 pm

Silver wrote:
For me, it's not a case of not wanting to believe anything.I know we're a fkn disaster of a club at the minute. I want to know what the realistic alternatives are.

No one is coming up with any solutions.

The solution is to find someone else to invest in or take over the club.

Who's going to do it at this stage? It'll be when the club - as HH has said in the past - hits rock bottom.

We're not there yet sadly.

Billy_Hainey · 13/5/2016 12:22 pm

In the Tully, about him and Laura Conway.

https://www.eveningtelegraph.co.uk/2016/05/13/jim-spence-quit-dundee-united-just-days-taking-post/

HeggyHandshake · 13/5/2016 12:36 pm

SGMilne wrote:
The discussion then goes to this...

You would think this points to the club running out of money and going into administration.

But then why would Ray McKinnon take the post? Without being privvy to any discussions, my reading of the situation was that he took his time to sign on because he wasn't happy about the conditions he may have been asked to work under re: finance. What changed?

He said he would give Ray a bigger budget.... Without having any way to give him the money.

Sieb22 · 13/5/2016 12:36 pm

HeggyHandshake wrote:
Trap6 was at his first meeting of this sort last night, he is in the same position as a lot of people on here who don't want to believe the shit we are in.

He now knows the truth.

A lot of people on here!? I would argue the fact that you would find it hard to find one poster who won't admit the fact that the club is a mess, or in deep shit. Does it upset you that some of us on here are not more vocal and voracious about it like you are, is that why you think some are pro ST or just hiding our heads in the sand?

Do you not think it's just different ways for different people to deal with things, different strokes and all that. I'm not pro anything, I don't know the trust or the fed or even ST from Adam so I can only comment on what I see as an "outsider" or whatever you want to label me (probably a wanker or a fud maybe ) so I am not as privy to as much of the info coming out from Tannadice that is true or false.

PatReilly · 13/5/2016 12:36 pm

Apologies then to those who made the banners, as it appears from the information imparted by the people who attended the Fed meeting that Jim Spence was given a supportive welcome, and is possibly of a similar opinion to many who want the board to depart.

I've been paying subs to the Fed for a number of years: how do I access the minutes or details of meetings such as those last night?

PS, I'm not on Facebook, Twitter or suchlike, but there is a PM facility here.

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