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22/4/2016 9:47 pm  #1


The term 'Jock'

Do you find it offensive?

 

 

22/4/2016 9:58 pm  #2


Re: The term 'Jock'

Can't think I've ever run across it in the 'real world' (ie not tv)

The wife (now there's an offensive term  ) has reminded me that it was used in a non-offensive way during the war so I guess it depends (context and all that)

Probably offensive but I'm trying hard not to be offended these days   

 

22/4/2016 10:11 pm  #3


Re: The term 'Jock'

No, but I don't find much offensive TBH.

BUT

There are words used to described people from certain countries or races which are classed as very offensive, this is used quite often in a similar manner so technically should really be classed the same.

 

23/4/2016 10:10 am  #4


Re: The term 'Jock'

I was standing at the bar in the Swiss Cottage Arms in London in 1982-ish when a guy accompanied by his gorgeous wife came in and said "Hello" in a scouser accent. I spoke back to him, and he said "Do you want a pint Jock". I said aye and he bought me a couple of beers, and spent the next hour exchanging chat with him and his missus.

He was really chuffed when I told him my mither had seen him and his band perform twice in the Caird Hall in the 60s, and was amused that I remembered the 2nd occasion well and that she had paid extra for front row seats. I was in the company of George Harrison and his wife Olivia.

Shook hands and said ta ta, but that wasna the end of it. When I got back to Dundee, and told my old dear, she exclaimed "Did you no get his autograph! ". I hadn't, and I never heard the end of it. Till the day she died, my mother would  recount this story regularly.

After all the above sh1te, no don't mind the term.

 

23/4/2016 10:28 am  #5


Re: The term 'Jock'

Tek wrote:

Do you find it offensive?

 

Lived in Brum for 20 odd years. Whether I found it offensive or not was determined by the tone of voice.  Moved to near LOndon and never heard the term again. It's like everything else regarding race.  Tone of voice and any additional comments attached to the word tell you EXACTLY where the user of the term comes from.


A' hes eggs are double yoakit!
 

23/4/2016 1:14 pm  #6


Re: The term 'Jock'

Billy_Hainey wrote:

I was standing at the bar in the Swiss Cottage Arms in London in 1982-ish when a guy accompanied by his gorgeous wife came in and said "Hello" in a scouser accent. I spoke back to him, and he said "Do you want a pint Jock". I said aye and he bought me a couple of beers, and spent the next hour exchanging chat with him and his missus.

He was really chuffed when I told him my mither had seen him and his band perform twice in the Caird Hall in the 60s, and was amused that I remembered the 2nd occasion well and that she had paid extra for front row seats. I was in the company of George Harrison and his wife Olivia.

Shook hands and said ta ta, but that wasna the end of it. When I got back to Dundee, and told my old dear, she exclaimed "Did you no get his autograph! ". I hadn't, and I never heard the end of it. Till the day she died, my mother would recount this story regularly.

After all the above sh1te, no don't mind the term.

Great story Billy 

Too many people nowadays, especially in the Twitterverse, are quick to point out and jump on the bandwagon of what is offensive and what isn't, because they are obviously squeaky clean of course, its becoming like "I am offended that you are offended or not offended at that offending comment, NOT COOL!!!" etc. etc. 

Everyone should have a good barometer of whats acceptable or not nowadays, as for the term Jock I personally wouldn't be offended by it unless it is said in a derogatory manner, for example if you are having a laugh together and call them an idiot then its different when someone is angry at you and calls you an idiot if you catch my meaning. So if its used in a playful manner then whatever, i'll run with that, but if its said in an abusive manner then they would get an Oliver Twist in the Bib and Brace!
 

 

04/5/2016 1:43 am  #7


Re: The term 'Jock'

Billy_Hainey wrote:

I was standing at the bar in the Swiss Cottage Arms in London in 1982-ish when a guy accompanied by his gorgeous wife came in and said "Hello" in a scouser accent. I spoke back to him, and he said "Do you want a pint Jock". I said aye and he bought me a couple of beers, and spent the next hour exchanging chat with him and his missus.

He was really chuffed when I told him my mither had seen him and his band perform twice in the Caird Hall in the 60s, and was amused that I remembered the 2nd occasion well and that she had paid extra for front row seats. I was in the company of George Harrison and his wife Olivia.

Shook hands and said ta ta, but that wasna the end of it. When I got back to Dundee, and told my old dear, she exclaimed "Did you no get his autograph! ". I hadn't, and I never heard the end of it. Till the day she died, my mother would recount this story regularly.

After all the above sh1te, no don't mind the term.

Somehow missed this at the time Bill.

Fantastic story mate.

If Georgie called you 'Jock' that's alright by me.He would only have said it in an affectionate way going by the type of man he was.
 

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04/5/2016 1:45 am  #8


Re: The term 'Jock'

played4won4 wrote:

Lived in Brum for 20 odd years. Whether I found it offensive or not was determined by the tone of voice.  Moved to near LOndon and never heard the term again. It's like everything else regarding race.  Tone of voice and any additional comments attached to the word tell you EXACTLY where the user of the term comes from.

Would agree with that.

The above story from Bill about George Harrison i would class the term 'Jock' in that instance to be affectionate,if anything.

If someone in an English pub or whatever called me a 'Jock cunt' in an aggressive manner i would however find that very offensive,derogatory and inflammatory.

I suppose it is all indeed to do with the tone and manner it is communicated (as Scarpia+Sieb also allude to above).
 

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04/5/2016 9:24 am  #9


Re: The term 'Jock'

Worked in Plymouth for a while and heard it a bit.... was either jock or sweaty (sock).

Wasn't offended really but it did get a but wearing- so called them guffs - kinds stopped after that but just a shite attempt at banter.

Southerners on the whole were Very soft. We had a sprinkling of snow (maybe an inch thick - and the 3 Scottish lads were the only ones to come to work. Also, the ones I worked with weren't v good at taking a slagging... differences are what makes the world go round, I guess


If you can't say something nice, don't say anything at all.
 

08/5/2016 7:02 pm  #10


Re: The term 'Jock'

I don't find the term offensive but the terms Jock, Taff and Paddy all come from our English overlords.

We do not have a similar term for them cause they made them up as a mean to keep us where we are, subservient


Yeah yeah Industrial Estate
 

08/5/2016 7:14 pm  #11


Re: The term 'Jock'

Aye we do, Cunts!


"Don't F*cking ever offer me that again!"
 

09/5/2016 8:15 am  #12


Re: The term 'Jock'

Have lived south of the border fir years and been called it countless times also "sweaty"or "haggis" or "scotty" also get "see you jimmy" quite a lot.

The preverbial "water of a ducks back" I think most times it is only in jest and I always reply in kind,can't think of any time I've taken offence or any English wanker has, normally it ends up being a good laugh to be honest.


We don't give a damn what the others say
We'll cheer on United all the way
For we are the Terrors of Tannadice
 
 

09/5/2016 10:11 pm  #13


Re: The term 'Jock'

doontheroadarab wrote:

Have lived south of the border fir years and been called it countless times also "sweaty"or "haggis" or "scotty" also get "see you jimmy" quite a lot.

The preverbial "water of a ducks back" I think most times it is only in jest and I always reply in kind,can't think of any time I've taken offence or any English wanker has, normally it ends up being a good laugh to be honest.

Down to how you deal with it mate.
 

 

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