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TheShed · 18/1/2016 10:39 am

Billy_Hainey wrote:
Guesstimating with Average Ticket Price per Home Match of £18 and TV money included.

This Season 2015/16 in the Premiership
Average Attendance is 8233 (up to date)
Average Ticket Price per match £18
No. of Home Matches 19
Total Ticket Income £2,815,810
TV Money £600,000
Total Estimated Income £3,415,810

Guesstimate for next Season in the Championship
Guesstimate Average Attendance 6500
Guesstimate Average Ticket Price per Match £18
No. of Home Matches 18
Total Guesstimate Income £2,106,000

Guesstimate Drop for the Season £1,309,810
Which is an Average Guesstimate Drop per Game of £68,937
(takes into account there is 1 less Home Match ie 18 instead of 19)

Prob somewhere close to being right mate, would expect the player wage bill to drop a bit to offset some of these losses.

Also would a CEO/chairmabn of a championship club really expect to command a 6 figure salary?
Would we need a general manager, with his large salary and company car and also a finance manager and an operations manager?

Pretty sure there's savings which could be made there also.

Tek · 18/1/2016 10:53 am

Andy wrote:
Tek wrote:
I find it unbelievable we still have debt too.

Bear in mind the bank underwrote a fair bit of the debt as part of the deal we struck with them.

The way the players sales went I'm not sure they did.

I wrote the details on here at the time and I can't remember exactly what the script was now but it was along the lines of....

We owed the bank £4.5m, we agreed a deal of £2.8m to write it all off, with the caveat that the bank would receive a reducing percentage of player sales in the next three transfer windows up to a total of £1.5m.

We sold loads of players so I assume we paid the bank £4.3m of the £4.5m capital debt we owed at the time of the arrangement. We would have saved on interest and gained breathing space but with hindsight I'm not sure we saved all that much in total.

However there is an argument that we only got top dollar for the sales because we had no bank debt and no pressure to sell.

Cheers for the info Andy.

So we basically cleared the bank debt all on our own just about but we also now owe of course the soft loaners.

What a great bit of business that worked out.

WeeDude_83 · 18/1/2016 11:10 am

Steve Bruce has placed a £14m pricetag on Andy Robertson.

That wid help....

Andy · 18/1/2016 11:25 am

TEK, I assume the soft loans were used to repay the £2.8m immediate payment to the bank (and I'm not certain that was the deal amount tbh) so that's what we're paying back at a reduced rate of interest to friendly creditors.

In exchange for a security over Tannadice it appears....

Andy · 18/1/2016 11:26 am

ArdlerArab wrote:
Steve Bruce has placed a £14m pricetag on Andy Robertson.

That wid help....

Is there interest in him again?

I thought he was injured then struggling to get back into the team.

Good news if true.

WeeDude_83 · 18/1/2016 11:49 am

Andy wrote:
ArdlerArab wrote:
Steve Bruce has placed a £14m pricetag on Andy Robertson.

That wid help....
Is there interest in him again?

I thought he was injured then struggling to get back into the team.

Good news if true.

Derby were credited with an interest in him, supposed to be slapping in a £7m bid. Premiership clubs also known to be interested. £14m will scare Derby off but start clubs bidding hopefully!

bowers · 18/1/2016 2:33 pm

TheShed wrote:
Billy_Hainey wrote:
Guesstimating with Average Ticket Price per Home Match of £18 and TV money included.

This Season 2015/16 in the Premiership
Average Attendance is 8233 (up to date)
Average Ticket Price per match £18
No. of Home Matches 19
Total Ticket Income £2,815,810
TV Money £600,000
Total Estimated Income £3,415,810

Guesstimate for next Season in the Championship
Guesstimate Average Attendance 6500
Guesstimate Average Ticket Price per Match £18
No. of Home Matches 18
Total Guesstimate Income £2,106,000

Guesstimate Drop for the Season £1,309,810
Which is an Average Guesstimate Drop per Game of £68,937
(takes into account there is 1 less Home Match ie 18 instead of 19)

Prob somewhere close to being right mate, would expect the player wage bill to drop a bit to offset some of these losses.

Also would a CEO/chairmabn of a championship club really expect to command a 6 figure salary?
Would we need a general manager, with his large salary and company car and also a finance manager and an operations manager?

Pretty sure there's savings which could be made there also.

The chairman doesnt need to demand such a high salary that he is taking already never mind when we go down..

Also the general manager why do we need both?

We dont.

Arab_plumber · 18/1/2016 2:43 pm

Both need to leave the club

TheShed · 18/1/2016 6:01 pm

bowers wrote:
TheShed wrote:
Billy_Hainey wrote:
Guesstimating with Average Ticket Price per Home Match of £18 and TV money included.

This Season 2015/16 in the Premiership
Average Attendance is 8233 (up to date)
Average Ticket Price per match £18
No. of Home Matches 19
Total Ticket Income £2,815,810
TV Money £600,000
Total Estimated Income £3,415,810

Guesstimate for next Season in the Championship
Guesstimate Average Attendance 6500
Guesstimate Average Ticket Price per Match £18
No. of Home Matches 18
Total Guesstimate Income £2,106,000

Guesstimate Drop for the Season £1,309,810
Which is an Average Guesstimate Drop per Game of £68,937
(takes into account there is 1 less Home Match ie 18 instead of 19)

Prob somewhere close to being right mate, would expect the player wage bill to drop a bit to offset some of these losses.

Also would a CEO/chairmabn of a championship club really expect to command a 6 figure salary?
Would we need a general manager, with his large salary and company car and also a finance manager and an operations manager?

Pretty sure there's savings which could be made there also.

The chairman doesnt need to demand such a high salary that he is taking already never mind when we go down..

Also the general manager why do we need both?

We dont.

That's what I like about ur posts mate, I'm skirting round issues, u just say exactly what we're both thinking.

18/1/2016 8:32 pm

There was some discussion on this thread yesterday regarding the security held over Tannadice by the 'fan investors'.

I did a wee bit more digging and can shed a tiny bit more light on it (I think).

A note in the company accounts (to 30th June 2014) gave the interest payable on the loan(s) as 6% and describes the loans as unsecured.

The MR01 lodged at companies house gives the interest rate as 2% above the BOE base rate

So it looks as though security over Tannadice was granted in return for a reduction in interest payable.

Last edited by scarpia (18/1/2016 8:48 pm)

TheShed · 18/1/2016 9:18 pm

scarpia wrote:
There was some discussion on this thread yesterday regarding the security held over Tannadice by the 'fan investors'.

I did a wee bit more digging and can shed a tiny bit more light on it (I think).

A note in the company accounts (to 30th June 2014) gave the interest payable on the loan(s) as 6% and describes the loans as unsecured.

The MR01 lodged at companies house gives the interest rate as 2% above the BOE base rate

So it looks as though security over Tannadice was granted in return for a reduction in interest payable.

Very short term decision that, if that is what's happened.

HeggyHandshake · 01/2/2016 10:06 pm

HeggyHandshake wrote:
We shall see indeed, wonder if they will sell anyone if a bid comes along? I reckon any player at any price.

. Looks like I reckoned right.

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