Tekel Towers » Mixu's record so far. . . . .

Silver · 13/12/2015 12:35 am

Is fkn horrendous. End of.

What the hell happened to the new manager buzz that's meant to happen? I'm not one for knee jerk reactions, but I am shitting bricks here and really cannot see where our next win is coming from. Hard to be positive about our chances but we'll see what the players are made of in the season defining next month or so.

Only 2 to 3 weeks ago I was semi confident we'd do enough to stay up. Now, I think we're doomed.

Grim grim times.

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SuperMario · 13/12/2015 12:42 am

Hard to judge him with the team we've got! He's made 3 signing which I expect to make a massive impact! Also gunning love him or hate is defo a upgrade on what we had

TheShed · 13/12/2015 12:43 am

I'm with u mate, Hope it snows till Jan 31st and all games are off and he gets the signings right

TheShed · 13/12/2015 12:44 am

SuperMario wrote:
Hard to judge him with the team we've got! He's made 3 signing which I expect to make a massive impact! Also gunning love him or hate is defo a upgrade on what we had

Gunnings massively overrated

Tek · 13/12/2015 1:29 am

Silver wrote:
really cannot see where our next win is coming from.
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Neither can i tbh.

I said as far back as September or something i hoped we just stayed in contention with those around us till January and then we have to hope that Mixu can really improve not just the squad but also the first XI.

Unfortunately we appear to becoming detached whilst other teams around us like Thistle and Motherwell are picking up wins.Even Killie as gash as they are pick up the odd good point (0-0 at Parkhead in November for instance).

January is everything.Until then we need to hope we can somehow pick-up some points from Caley,'Well or Hearts.

We can get out of this but Thompson must back Mixu and the signings must be top drawer.

In 2000 we looked utterly doomed and then Alex Smith signed real quality in Charlie Miller and Derek Lilley.2nd half of the season we were a Top 3 side consistency wise.THAT is what we will need to replicate this term.

I've not thrown in the towel yet but by the end of 2015 if the next 3 are defeats it might be a Bridge too far.

Mixu has to stop being so pessimistic btw.No forwards on the bench today.Fucking nonsense.

RRDH · 13/12/2015 1:30 am

Thompson has no problem with backing managers. He's just picked the wrong one I fear.

Tek · 13/12/2015 1:38 am

RRDH wrote:
Thompson has no problem with backing managers. He's just picked the wrong one I fear.

I wanted Stuart McCall and said so on here several times.

I like Mixu but just wonder if his 'Old School' style of discipline and criticism is really going to get the best out of these young (quiet) boys.

McCall seems more of a players Manager.An arm-round-the-shoulder type who might have got a better response.His contacts in England were/are also superb.Just look at his signings for 'Well (Ruddy,Humphreys,Higdon etc).

All speculation on my part of course and i should add i do,overall,still like Mixu.

I just fear he's the wrong guy for us at this juncture.I hope (of course) i'm very wrong in that.

Waffelz · 13/12/2015 2:06 am

Still go to fkn Inverness next week though. jesus, man

RRDH · 13/12/2015 8:36 am

Tek wrote:
RRDH wrote:
Thompson has no problem with backing managers. He's just picked the wrong one I fear.
I wanted Stuart McCall and said so on here several times.

I like Mixu but just wonder if his 'Old School' style of discipline and criticism is really going to get the best out of these young (quiet) boys.

McCall seems more of a players Manager.An arm-round-the-shoulder type who might have got a better response.His contacts in England were/are also superb.Just look at his signings for 'Well (Ruddy,Humphreys,Higdon etc).

All speculation on my part of course and i should add i do,overall,still like Mixu.

I just fear he's the wrong guy for us at this juncture.I hope (of course) i'm very wrong in that.

Yeah, was a head scratcher for me. Do like what Mixu says but saying things to get a response out of the support isn't always going to get you a response out of the players.

kiwiarab · 13/12/2015 9:31 am

2000/2001 was an amazing escape from memory, just done some research and at this stage of the season we drew 1-1 with a strong rangers team (EBT Central) and were 5 points behind st mirren and safety.

http://www.arabarchive.co.uk/matchdetails.php?id=1663

9 points from safety now it is going to take something really special to turn this around now.

SGMilne · 13/12/2015 9:35 am

Silver wrote:
Is fkn horrendous. End of.

What the hell happened to the new manager buzz that's meant to happen? I'm not one for knee jerk reactions, but I am shitting bricks here and really cannot see where our next win is coming from. Hard to be positive about our chances but we'll see what the players are made of in the season defining next month or so.

Only 2 to 3 weeks ago I was semi confident we'd do enough to stay up. Now, I think we're doomed.

Grim grim times.

The new manager buzz isn't a definite.

The shambles this club was left in by Jackie McNamara cannot be underestimated. It's not just the quality of player (which isn't great) but it's the type of player.

We've got a squad with no height up front, no width, no pace and no clue.

There's only so much a manager can do outside of a transfer window.

It looks less and less likely we'll escape this (although to be fair we're as far adrift now as we were a couple of weeks ago and are still a couple of wins away from being in touching distance of a pack of 7 teams) but I don't think any realistic alternative could have come in and turned around this ship faster than Mixu.

lifesanocean · 13/12/2015 10:02 am

The team we have now has no heart and no dig. Too many of them don't appear to have any idea of the shit we are in. No pressure on the ball for most of the first half yesterday was a disgrace. Too many are also poor players. He's been dealt a much worse hand than Levein or even Alex Smith. There was no transfer window then either so Smith could buy his way out almost right away. Every week we move closer to January we become more detached.

Levein had Robson, Wilkie, Kalvenes and Hunt who were winners. He also had Conway, Robertson, Kenneth who all had potential so they were able to dig themselves out. He also got a bit more out of average players like McCracken, Mair and Kerr.

Alex Smith had De Vos, Hannah, Easton, Griffin who could all battle, he then added real quality with Miller and boys who were hardened players like Lauchlan, and Lilley. Smith also managed to get the best out of Hamilton, Buchan etc and added in younger players who also did well like McCunnie, Gallacher etc.

What is worrying about the lack of a new manager bounce is it shows how spineless some of our players are. Jackie appears to have signed an affy lot of boys with no heart. Funnily enough, if you look at Celtic, their fans are saying the same things about GMS, Ciftci and Armstrong as well.

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arabugsy · 13/12/2015 4:36 pm

Silver wrote:
Is fkn horrendous. End of.

What the hell happened to the new manager buzz that's meant to happen? I'm not one for knee jerk reactions, but I am shitting bricks here and really cannot see where our next win is coming from. Hard to be positive about our chances but we'll see what the players are made of in the season defining next month or so.

Only 2 to 3 weeks ago I was semi confident we'd do enough to stay up. Now, I think we're doomed.

Grim grim times.

Any noticeable change in performance?

Silver · 13/12/2015 7:21 pm

arabugsy wrote:
Silver wrote:
Is fkn horrendous. End of.

What the hell happened to the new manager buzz that's meant to happen? I'm not one for knee jerk reactions, but I am shitting bricks here and really cannot see where our next win is coming from. Hard to be positive about our chances but we'll see what the players are made of in the season defining next month or so.

Only 2 to 3 weeks ago I was semi confident we'd do enough to stay up. Now, I think we're doomed.

Grim grim times.
Any noticeable change in performance?

There is a difference yeah, but unfortunately, the results are the same pishy results.

I'm taking from your sarcasm that you're happy with the start Mixu has made?

Arabnophobia · 13/12/2015 9:17 pm

Silver wrote:
arabugsy wrote:
Silver wrote:
Is fkn horrendous. End of.

What the hell happened to the new manager buzz that's meant to happen? I'm not one for knee jerk reactions, but I am shitting bricks here and really cannot see where our next win is coming from. Hard to be positive about our chances but we'll see what the players are made of in the season defining next month or so.

Only 2 to 3 weeks ago I was semi confident we'd do enough to stay up. Now, I think we're doomed.

Grim grim times.
Any noticeable change in performance?

There is a difference yeah, but unfortunately, the results are the same pishy results.

I'm taking from your sarcasm that you're happy with the start Mixu has made?

No sure if you can call Bugsy's comment sarcastic.
I'd say it's a fact but equally get yer concern bud. Hopefully this point we are at is the lowest.

Fans were on the verge of imploding before Mixu got the job. It feels the same again and the new manager feeling/improvement in results didn't happen but until he has a huge change in staff it fkn won't.
We have a squad full of over confident in their own ability players who couldn't blow the skin aff a rice pudding but could justify blowing oor money up their arses whilst driving their Mercs and us mental.
Let's not loose the plot with each other and Mixu yet.
Managers stats are as bad as anything the club's seen but until luck and squad changes and his tactics CAN be followed we are in a bad way.

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Arabnophobia · 13/12/2015 9:21 pm

TheShed wrote:
I'm with u mate, Hope it snows till Jan 31st and all games are off and he gets the signings right

C'mon the artic winds!

DontOfferMeThat · 14/12/2015 12:14 pm

Some puzzling things going on though. Soutter getting the full 90 minutes every week ??? The boys not interested. Wont tackle. Wont take part. Maybe we cant drop him as that will scupper any chance of some cash for him in January? And where was the back-up striker? We couldn't change anything much on Saturday. Pongolle get's injured (seemed a fairly pedestrian clash). I have to say Erskine looked good when he came on but don't we need another striker on the bench just in case ?? I know Murray isn't the most skilled guy on the planet but he is one of the most determined - not getting a sniff. Isn't that what we are all crying out for. Players who will give their all ?

arabugsy · 14/12/2015 9:34 pm

Arabnophobia wrote:
Silver wrote:
arabugsy wrote:

Any noticeable change in performance?

There is a difference yeah, but unfortunately, the results are the same pishy results.

I'm taking from your sarcasm that you're happy with the start Mixu has made?

No sure if you can call Bugsy's comment sarcastic.
I'd say it's a fact but equally get yer concern bud. Hopefully this point we are at is the lowest.

Thanks for that, exactly what I was getting at, and it wasn't sarcastic but a genuine question that I was hoping for a yes or no answer.

Would be much more worried if our performances were the same or worse but there is definite improvement.

Silver · 14/12/2015 10:00 pm

Apologies for picking you up wrong bud.

I did answer your question, I think there has been a general improvement in performances ( not difficult) , but my point was, the results are the same.

9 games in, 1 win, 1 draw, and 7 defeats. The manner of the last couple of losses are worrying. We can't score, we STILL can't keep a clean sheet, and we still have major weaknesses in key areas.

I'm hoping the keeper makes a difference, but he's not gonna make that much a difference that we turn all those defeats into wins.

Gunning worry's me. We shouldn't have signed him imo. Absolutely nothing has changed with him since he left. He's a liability.

Glad Erskine is back in the fold, we've missed him.

Getting back to the point of the OP, I'm worried sick. We're fkn honkin. That's fact. And unfortunately, the early signs are Mixu isn't the man to stop the rot.

Hope to hell I'm wrong.

SuperMario · 14/12/2015 10:11 pm

No body could turn this team round! there is so many bang average championship players in our squad. I disagree we had no chick but to sign gunning, yeah we have still conceding goal but the defence has defo improved, I feel the more worrying thing is we aren't killing teams off and it's biting us in the arse, we should have at least got a draw from st j, and we should have won the last 3 and the reason for that is we are not clinical enough in front of goal and I'm not slating him cause he's been different gravy for us but McKay should have doubled his tally with all the 1 on 1's he's missed! I still feel we need a linking player from midfield to the forward line, pongolle could have been that player but God knows how long he'll be out for! Oh and we need a target man to help McKay, is that man muirhead???

huntedbyafreak · 15/12/2015 12:35 am

When he got the job a few Hibs fans I know said that he'll not be great to watch but he'll make the side hard to beat. It's only been 2 months. He's made us harder to beat I suppose. We are not having much in the way of luck either. Although we are really poor and it might be too late to keep us up.

RAM1971 · 15/12/2015 1:06 am

The one thing that is really sinking us is the transfer window being shut. On the plus side I can clearly see that Mixu has sussed out the players who are no use to us and most of these are now starting to leave or are featuring less and less. Mixu doesn't make substitutions just for the sake of it, because he realises that he does not have much options on the bench. ST has to give him the means to bring in at least another three or four players at the turn of the year.

huntedbyafreak · 15/12/2015 1:07 am

We need more than 3 or 4

RAM1971 · 15/12/2015 1:17 am

Agreed, we really need to gut the team, but Mixu has signed four so far. Other than Gunners the rest have not really figured yet. Another three or four should help a lot, as long as they include creativity and width, midfield to front as well as physical height.

Andy · 15/12/2015 8:09 am

We're definitely playing better, harder to beat but still getting beat. Only changing six or seven players will remedy that, and even that's not a guarantee.