Phucking disaster.

Sad state of affairs, was hoping he'd be back after JM left. Makes you wonder WTF has gone on.

Utd would've been expecting this I'd imagine. Don't pretend to know what's went on at all, but I'd be very very surprised if Utd don't have something on him to counter his case. You don't get suspended on the back of rumours and hearsay.

Really liked Campbell, was fantastic for the club. Pity it couldn't be resolved without all the shite that goes with a court case.

scarpia wrote:

Posted this on the board moan thread prior to this one opening....

It's the first time I've seen the Public Interest Disclosure Act being used in connection with a football club so I googled and this stood out.....

"the disclosure must be one which the whistleblower "reasonably believes" shows a criminal offence, a failure to comply with legal obligations, a miscarriage of justice, danger to the health and safety of employees, damage to the environment, or the hiding of information which would show any of the above actions."

Potentially very serious stuff and, if allowed by the tribunal, the burden of proof will reside with the club and not with the employee....in other words United would need to demonstrate his (effective) dismissal was not as a result of whistleblowing...

And to add....it may be we'll never know what has gone on as settlements are often reached prior to an employment tribunal sitting or concluding.

 Said it from day one , for the club to take the action they have means they have something as you don't do that if you have nothing, in saying that it won't go to tribunal Steve has a job opportunity by the looks of it and it will be done and dusted behind closed doors

You do not suspend anyone if you think you have something on them, even we are not that stupid

Sidney wrote:

scarpia wrote:

Posted this on the board moan thread prior to this one opening....

It's the first time I've seen the Public Interest Disclosure Act being used in connection with a football club so I googled and this stood out.....

"the disclosure must be one which the whistleblower "reasonably believes" shows a criminal offence, a failure to comply with legal obligations, a miscarriage of justice, danger to the health and safety of employees, damage to the environment, or the hiding of information which would show any of the above actions."

Potentially very serious stuff and, if allowed by the tribunal, the burden of proof will reside with the club and not with the employee....in other words United would need to demonstrate his (effective) dismissal was not as a result of whistleblowing...

And to add....it may be we'll never know what has gone on as settlements are often reached prior to an employment tribunal sitting or concluding.

 Said it from day one , for the club to take the action they have means they have something as you don't do that if you have nothing, in saying that it won't go to tribunal Steve has a job opportunity by the looks of it and it will be done and dusted behind closed doors

You don't need to have anything. If serious accusations are made then employer has duty to remove accused from workplace. 
 

One or more of jm, jackson, Donnelly had a part to play in this imo.

Wouldn't be surprised if it's again a matter of the chairman placing too much trust in them.

blackandtangerine wrote:

Silver wrote:

Sad state of affairs, was hoping he'd be back after JM left. Makes you wonder WTF has gone on.

Utd would've been expecting this I'd imagine. Don't pretend to know what's went on at all, but I'd be very very surprised if Utd don't have something on him to counter his case. You don't get suspended on the back of rumours and hearsay.

Really liked Campbell, was fantastic for the club. Pity it couldn't be resolved without all the shite that goes with a court case.

You can get suspended on hearsay.  If someone makes an accusation against you then your employer can suspend you.  It's all to do with employment laws.
 

 I know that mate , but if accusations are made against you , then investigations are made before you have reason to suspend, I'm not in one camp or the other here but something ain't right here

Sidney wrote:

blackandtangerine wrote:

Silver wrote:

Sad state of affairs, was hoping he'd be back after JM left. Makes you wonder WTF has gone on.

Utd would've been expecting this I'd imagine. Don't pretend to know what's went on at all, but I'd be very very surprised if Utd don't have something on him to counter his case. You don't get suspended on the back of rumours and hearsay.

Really liked Campbell, was fantastic for the club. Pity it couldn't be resolved without all the shite that goes with a court case.

You can get suspended on hearsay.  If someone makes an accusation against you then your employer can suspend you.  It's all to do with employment laws.
 

 I know that mate , but if accusations are made against you , then investigations are made before you have reason to suspend, I'm not in one camp or the other here but something ain't right here

 
Sometimes suspensions are put in place to allow investigations to take place, not uncommon at all actually.

It's always been the case he wasn't coming back anyway, since the day he was "suspended".

Don't agree with what's happened, but the club need to move on quickly.

Don't think it should be a Mixu appointment either, should be a long term replacement, not someone tied to a specific management team.  Shouldn't be John Potter tho.

Campbell's lawyer apparently advised him to quit as he wants his hearing heard in an open public tribunal rather than a closed doors internal one.

His lawyer John Muir has said the tribunal will relate to his unfair dismissal and "whistleblowing" under the Public Interest Disclosure Act.

I'm not sure if the "whistleblowing" relates to Campbell drawing things to Utd's attention about the previous coaching staff or the previous coaching staff (via youth players) drawing things to the clubs attention about Stevie Campbell.

All seems very murky at the moment and I suspect there will be claim and counter claim in the process. It will doubtless get messy.

All very regrettable.