In the modern game in Scotland managers generally have a shelf life of 2 seasons. If he does a good job he'll be off somewhere else. If he's shite he'll get punted.

Silver wrote:

Did JM get enough time?

He should have got time - in Perth!
 

Anyone coming in will have to make the most of a fairly inept lot until January at least, before he can start to make real changes to the squad. He might pick up one or two free transfer men on the dole, since that is about all he can sign meantime. It would be unfair to judge the new man on any continued run of poor results in the meantime, considering his hands will to a great extent be tied behind his back. Most of Jackie's signings are below SPFL standard. They will take us in only one direction until, like an involuntary bowel evacuation, they are discharged from the system to accommodate a fresh food intake. 

First time we've had to judge a manager starting at such a low ebb.

This is probably the weakest squad we've had since Alex Smith took charge and he didn't have to wait for a transfer window to bring players in.

Key thing in the short term is to get a tougher more resilient side on the park and  hope our position doesn't get worse.....

Assuming he can do that will judge him on how he does once he gets to put his own stamp on the team.....and tbf we may have to give him two windows before we can properly judge him regardless of what happens.

Worrying, but that's the way things are.

In the past I would give managers longer than just now as building a long term team and style was possible.  Currently I want a manager that has an immediate effect on the squad, tactics and fans. Has to be a strong experienced character.

I'd say a year to prove himself is about right, but if he takes us down?

Managers time to prove themselves is becoming more aligned to established players these days.

Cannae answer it: won't be keen to give somebody time if they are making a McNamaraesque arse of things. Especially if it's someone I don't want at the club.

Nevertheless, I won't shout any manager down when at the games: never did it for Ian 'No Bullshit' McCall, so won't do it for the new manager.

Arab_plumber wrote:

This is without doubt a very critical time for the club and all the bickering etc must cease now and we must all pull in the same direction for what looks like a long bumpy ride.

The fact we cannot bring players in other than free agents means it will take time for any manager to mould us in to a hard team to beat, sorting our defence will not happen over night that is for sure.....weeks and weeks of drills lie ahead

 
WTF has this to do with the OP?   

Silver wrote:

I've read loads of people saying the we should back any new manager and give him Time, so  What is everyone's idea of how long this "time" should be?

1 full season?
2 seasons?
2 or 3 transfer windows?  A year should tell us all we need to know, won't be the finished article but signs of where we're headed will be

Are we more impatient now than we've ever been? Yes

Are the pressures different nowadays? Only because of the above impatience

Did JM get enough time? More than enough

If the new man comes in at this stage and we still get relegated. . . Will he still get time? Won't deserve it

Will a guy who you didn't want, get as much time as the guy you wanted? (I bet not) human nature dictates not, but they should

Personally, I'm quite patient and like to think fair before I start calling for a managers head. Others are different tho.

Thoughts?

He'll need the entire season and through next summer at the very least to reverse course.  Whoever it is.