Although I've said I don't want McCall, I reckon he's a decent person who has often given us credit when we've played them. And I doubt he resigned in order to get to Ibrox: there was more than a four month gap between his resignation from Motherwell and taking up the Govan job.

He had a very good record against lower league sides, but was continually poor in results against the other top six, until his last season, when he was poor against all the sides. He also had a poor cup record, which is an important consideration for our club, in my view.

Looking at records and stats means a lot.

Who  deserves the credit for their record is hard to work out.
Some managers have reaped the benefit of previously signed and educated squads. Some build from nothing and a bad place to better and others find themselves in the right place at the right time.
Being a good man manager is one of the few stable consistent attributes going.
I think most of us fancy likable, respected  characters as a new manager due to our feelings on JMac and a soft squad. We are looking for a more tactically aware, more respected manager with a track record that the players can believe in.
We are confused between wanting someone who can deal with the 51  we have and someone who can build a Utd team fae January onwards.
ST wants someone who he can get on with like a manwife and the players need someone who will kick  their backsides and motivate them.
The club needs a cash injection, new quality players, a clear out and an end to selling off hope and the cream of the crop.

The new manager has a cunt of a job to do and negotiate.
ST has to consider all this and get it right or we will be looking again for a new manager.

STV reporting that Utd have made an official approach to Caley to speak to John Hughes.

ICT Statement -

Club Chairman, Kenny Cameron, has issued the following statement...

On behalf of the Board of Inverness Caledonian Thistle FC I can confirm that Dundee Utd have, today, requested permission from the club to open discussions with Team Manager, John Hughes."

"The club have stated previously that we wish John to remain with us for this season and beyond. This position has not changed and the approach from Dundee Utd has been rejected."

Fuck me, I'd rather have the ICT chairman as manager.

Daily Mail reporting this morning that Hughes and his agent are keen to meet with United.

http://www.dailymail.co.uk/sport/football/article-3267119/Inverness-rebuff-Dundee-United-s-approach-manager-John-Hughes-Caley-boss-keen-Tannadice.html?ITO=1490&ns_mchannel=rss&ns_campaign=1490

Have a feeling this may be going somewhere.

Unlike the fermers there's no sign (yet anyway) of ICT offering their manager a new contract.

Last edited by scarpia (10/10/2015 8:05 am)

scarpia wrote:

Daily Mail reporting this morning that Hughes and his agent are keen to meet with United.

http://www.dailymail.co.uk/sport/football/article-3267119/Inverness-rebuff-Dundee-United-s-approach-manager-John-Hughes-Caley-boss-keen-Tannadice.html?ITO=1490&ns_mchannel=rss&ns_campaign=1490

Have a feeling this may be going somewhere.

Unlike the fermers there's no sign (yet anyway) of ICT offering their manager a new contract.

 
There's maybe a reason they might not offer a new contract.

Every time we ask to speak to a manager we are probably just following the process to interview and weigh up candidates we fancy as candidates who have confirmed an interest through their agent. 

I don't feel like defending ST but think some people don't understand that asking permission to talk to a prospect is just that. Both times we are knocked back some  people think the prospective manager knocked us back. The reason agents give us hope may well be to manipulate better and longer contracts though.
Reality is maybe both, one or the other and ST maybe should have had a better plans
In place as he knew this was possibly coming.
We now have some issues evolving ie.

- Agents playing us.

-Managers going off the job as the negativity we have halted stutters on.

- One prospect supposedly taking the huff (according to the media)

- ST unsure of who he wants until he tries to spend some time with them to figure out if he can have a good relationship with them.

- The possibility that anyone named might be poached by a bigger team financially.

- The unity created by ridding the manager evaporating and heading towards rebuilding the split between fans through the pissing about and unplanned delays.

- The time lost in giving the new guy a chance to get to work fixing the squads' heads and new playing style.

- Other teams like the stripey unwashed picking off more young talent whilst we are rudderless and unmotivated.

- Stevie Campbell situation dragging on.

- Jmac and co. surely putting mates and agents clients off the idea through bitterness ie. Yogi and Lambert. Which might not matter but surely on the go.

- The all round loss of belief in the chairman's motivation for the club's best interests and feeling that we will continue to swop hope and talent for money.

- The most important worry for me is the squad. They were mentally unmotivated and lost before. If he doesn't bring in a managerial magician quick with some new style reassurances and backing.

I'm not usually negative but I'm worried that doing thing ST's way is slow, unplanned, disorganised and overly obedient to the rules. Most clubs would have tapped somecunt up by now like we have been plenty times.

Rant over!

Morphman wrote:

McCall to be appointed on Thursday on the condition hes allowed to keep his squad together for three years minimum. You heard it first here. Won't talk to United until international duty is finished.

 
I would be happy with that.

Tek wrote:

Morphman wrote:

McCall to be appointed on Thursday on the condition hes allowed to keep his squad together for three years minimum. You heard it first here. Won't talk to United until international duty is finished.

Obvious question Morphy...source?

And how can he have gave ultimatums about the squad if he hasn't spoke to United yet?
 

  Was he not spoken to before Scotlandvpoland?  Doubt the ultimatum as one of his first orders of business should be to clear out all the rot.

Like the sound of it all the same.

Thompson wouldn't agree to that IMO. It'll be Hughes

Thompson's interview on Arabzone on 29/09/15 was as uneasy an interview from a chairman I've seen. Wringing his hands and wriggling about his seat at questions from a varied media. The one thing that stuck out as a confident reply was this response. Read into it for yourselves and I don't know if it was before or after interviewing McCall.

" We're in a good place going forward as far as I'm concerned for the future and debt is what it is, it's a small amount of debt now, ehmmmm, we don't really have to worry about that now. We can build for the future now and it's about building a club again."

First thought as I digested it was that he was repeating a pre discussed/said belief that is the new pitch to a new manager over the old pitch of, " come here to sell yersel and the players to a bigger team and better dosh."

He surely knows that we won't get the best fix or fixer with the old pitch that worked well for a while before draining the team of potential, the fans of hope and the possibility of success.