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Tek · 03/10/2015 7:39 pm

Club is floating towards the end of the River.

Stormy Seas await.

When the fuck is someone,anyone,going to grab the paddles and steer us against the tide?

Absolute directionless and have been for months.

If we don't appointment a man of real substance, a Craig Levein type, who will take hold of the club with an Iron Fist then we are in deep trouble.

Mr Thompson you have gotten us into a right mess.

Now you have to get us out of it or your legacy will be irreparably damaged.

Time to give up this vanity exercise in Australia and give 100% to Utd heart+soul.

blackandtangerine · 03/10/2015 7:41 pm

Tek wrote:
Club is floating towards the end of the River.

Stormy Seas await.

When the fuck is someone,anyone,going to grab the paddles and steer us against the tide?

Absolute directionless and have been for months.

If we don't appointment a man of real substance, a Craig Levein type, who will take hold of the club with an Iron Fist then we are in deep trouble.

Mr Thompson you have gotten us into a right mess.

Now you have to get us out of it or your legacy will be irreparably damaged.

Time to give up this vanity exercise in Australia and give 100% to Utd heart+soul.

His reputation is already fucked and he knows it.

Billy_Hainey · 03/10/2015 7:44 pm

Sadly agree with you Tek. Time to get a grip, or get to phuck.

Trap_6 · 03/10/2015 8:14 pm

He gave the manager 6 figures to spend on a striker on deadline day.

Don't see many other chairmen throwing around that kind of money.

TheShed · 03/10/2015 8:30 pm

He gave the wrong man that money to spend, if he'd done the right thing in the summer we wouldn't be in this mess.

Arab_plumber · 03/10/2015 8:50 pm

The fact we spent money on deadline day is the REAL problem

Jackie had from February to May to see where we needed to strengthen, but we end up signing pish loan players on deadline day and let's not forget Dave!!!!!

Tek · 03/10/2015 9:01 pm

TheShed wrote:
He gave the wrong man that money to spend, if he'd done the right thing in the summer we wouldn't be in this mess.

Exactly.

Jackie and Co should have been removed from their position's at the seasons end, giving us the entire close season to appoint the correct man.

As it is we have lurched from one farce to the next

Hammered in every pre-season friendly
The Rodney Snjeider debacle
Stevie Campbell's suspension
Annihilation at Hamilton
Punting Muirhead
Panic loan signings in Taggart+Kuhl
Relegation form since February

Etc etc etc

Now we have days to get someone in and hope he can work a minor miracle in keeping us up.

An absolute shambles and disgrace that the club has been allowed to slide so dramatically.

Arab_plumber · 03/10/2015 9:08 pm

You forgot a chairman more interested in getting his 10% wedge and living it up in oz rather than ensuring a proper rebuild took place.

Thompson is a fuckin wanker

Trap_6 · 03/10/2015 9:26 pm

I think it would have been ridiculous to have sacked JM in the summer.

The fact he went on to have a stinker doesn't mean anything. At that time, it would have been rash in the extreme.

JM's gone so everyone needs a new scapegoat.

He made one massive mistake in my opinion. Apart from that he's done a good job as chairman.

Tek · 03/10/2015 9:41 pm

Trap_6 wrote:
I think it would have been ridiculous to have sacked JM in the summer.

The fact he went on to have a stinker doesn't mean anything. At that time, it would have been rash in the extreme.

JM's gone so everyone needs a new scapegoat.

He made one massive mistake in my opinion. Apart from that he's done a good job as chairman.

I don't need a scapegoat at all mate.

I've said for about a year now Thompson's position at the club was becoming more and more destructive to everything.His pursuit of the Jets,his complete lack of clarity in doing so,his complete lack of action when it was totally apparent months ago that Jackie was way out of his depth.

Thompson has shown a mixture of arrogance,incompetence and desperate lack of leadership this past 10 months.

No mean feat.

He has one last chance to salvage what is left of his legacy at the club.Sadly i don't believe he is up to it.

Billy_Hainey · 03/10/2015 9:42 pm

1 scapegoat, or 11 players acting the goat. Doesna really matter does it.

Beharder · 03/10/2015 9:46 pm

Agree with that trap 6. Plumber there are plenty of wanker chairman out there Whyte, Green, Romanoff, Dixon, cook, melville to name a few. ST is no where near being in that category. He has made mistakes who hasn't but if he left tommorrow the club would be in a far healthier state than it was when he took over

TheShed · 03/10/2015 9:50 pm

Trap_6 wrote:
I think it would have been ridiculous to have sacked JM in the summer.

The fact he went on to have a stinker doesn't mean anything. At that time, it would have been rash in the extreme.

JM's gone so everyone needs a new scapegoat.

He made one massive mistake in my opinion. Apart from that he's done a good job as chairman.

Jackie failed the whole time he was with us in the transfer market, failed in important games, failed to get Europe, wasn't interested last season and deserved to go in the summer, not be allowed to wreck the squad completely like he now has.

Tek · 03/10/2015 9:51 pm

Beharder wrote:
Agree with that trap 6. Plumber there are plenty of wanker chairman out there Whyte, Green, Romanoff, Dixon, cook, melville to name a few. ST is no where near being in that category. He has made mistakes who hasn't but if he left tommorrow the club would be in a far healthier state than it was when he took over

We are away to do a Hibs.

His asset-stripping and lack of leadership has the club on it's knees beh christ.

We're also still running at a finacial loss and there isn't a great deal of sellable assets left to plug these financial gaps.

A Chairman that is being found out just like Mcnamara was IMO.

Trap_6 · 03/10/2015 9:58 pm

Tek wrote:
Trap_6 wrote:
I think it would have been ridiculous to have sacked JM in the summer.

The fact he went on to have a stinker doesn't mean anything. At that time, it would have been rash in the extreme.

JM's gone so everyone needs a new scapegoat.

He made one massive mistake in my opinion. Apart from that he's done a good job as chairman.

I don't need a scapegoat at all mate.

I've said for about a year now Thompson's position at the club was becoming more and more destructive to everything.His pursuit of the Jets,his complete lack of clarity in doing so,his complete lack of action when it was totally apparent months ago that Jackie was way out of his depth.

Thompson has shown a mixture of arrogance,incompetence and desperate lack of leadership this past 10 months.

No mean feat.

He has one last chance to salvage what is left of his legacy at the club.Sadly i don't believe he is up to it.

The Jets thing, I have no problem with. It's up to him what he does. We don't own him. He's allowed to do other things away from Dundee United surely?

As for a lack of clarity, he must have said at least ten times that anything that happens with the Jets deal will not change his role at United, which will remain his number one priority. You may choose to disbelieve that - fine. But I think it's a bit unfair to say he's been silent or that there's been a lack of clarity on it.

As for not sacking JM earlier, well that's subjective I suppose. Personally, I've had doubts over JM for a while now. However, until fairly recently I thought he deserved the opportunity to rebuild after having so many of his team sold in a short period of time. I wasn't 100% convinced he could do it, but I thought it was only fair he was given the opportunity. And to be honest, I'm glad the chairman gave him the opportunity. As I've already said, I think it would have been totally rash to have sacked him in the summer. Two months after leading the team out in a cup final.

ST isn't perfect. But be careful what you wish for. He's never used the club as a vanity project. He's stood our corner. It's thanks to him the club got rid of its debt the right way, something we should all be proud of. We've had good teams to watch for the vast majority of his time in charge.

I could name dozens of worse chairmen. I couldn't name that many better.

Trap_6 · 03/10/2015 10:00 pm

Tek wrote:
Beharder wrote:
Agree with that trap 6. Plumber there are plenty of wanker chairman out there Whyte, Green, Romanoff, Dixon, cook, melville to name a few. ST is no where near being in that category. He has made mistakes who hasn't but if he left tommorrow the club would be in a far healthier state than it was when he took over
We are away to do a Hibs.

His asset-stripping and lack of leadership has the club on it's knees beh christ.

We're also still running at a finacial loss and their isn't a great deal of sellable assets left to plug these financial gaps.

A Chairman that is being found out just like Mcnamara was IMO.

Asset stripping? Come on mate, that's too far.

Which of the player sales do you think he should have knocked back?

PatReilly · 03/10/2015 10:08 pm

If I'm being honest, I never realised we would be as bad this season as we are. Ever optimistic, although I thought Jackie and his pals would go at some point, and it should have been much earlier, I reckoned we had decent players there.

Generally, we don't, for this level.

I'm not angry at ST: without him, we could have been a far sight worse, but of course we could have been better too. I'm not rich, so can do nothing about him being in control of United. I'm disappointed at ST, that he didn't see that the management team didn't have it. Perhaps he was too faithful.

The two positives are

1) we have plenty time to recover (see Ross County last season)
2) the correct choice of manager will make a massive difference.

Trap_6 · 03/10/2015 10:10 pm

I still don't think it's a bad squad Pat. Just one devoid of confidence.

RRDH · 03/10/2015 10:14 pm

Trap_6 wrote:
I still don't think it's a bad squad Pat. Just one devoid of confidence.

I said the same about 3 weeks ago. Then I realized our center halves are truly gash. You don't win games with the way we defend.

Without McKay. It is 100% a bad squad.

I'll add, when we cut players to reduce size of squad, for the sake of his career and my sanity, ryan Dow needs to be among them.

Beharder · 03/10/2015 10:23 pm

Hibs went down because of Terry Butcher, if we go JM will be the main culprit. As i said ST has made mistakes however on the park I agree with you Tek we are on our knees, off the park Under STs tenure things are a hell of a lot better than they were. IT is time to look forward and show a United front to get out of this mess.

Arabnophobia · 03/10/2015 10:27 pm

PatReilly wrote:
If I'm being honest, I never realised we would be as bad this season as we are. Ever optimistic, although I thought Jackie and his pals would go at some point, and it should have been much earlier, I reckoned we had decent players there.

Generally, we don't, for this level.

I'm not angry at ST: without him, we could have been a far sight worse, but of course we could have been better too. I'm not rich, so can do nothing about him being in control of United. I'm disappointed at ST, that he didn't see that the management team didn't have it. Perhaps he was too faithful.

The two positives are

1) we have plenty time to recover (see Ross County last season)
2) the correct choice of manager will make a massive difference.

Not angry or disagreeing with bringing in £8.5 million but disagree with the timing of the last £2.2 million.

Not sure that family debt wasn't resurrected that was previously written off.

We are now where he gambled as the worst case scenario.

Sure he feels worse than most of us as a result so what he does to reverse this will depend on how much money he is willing to chuck at a new manager and squad.

He has thrown away a cup final and some of a team that could have given us memories.

We understand the majority of his decisions and respect most but he has well and truly fucked up overall.

He can recover but that will take money and better decisions now.

What's yer next move ST?

Trap_6 · 03/10/2015 10:32 pm

RRDH wrote:
Trap_6 wrote:
I still don't think it's a bad squad Pat. Just one devoid of confidence.

I said the same about 3 weeks ago. Then I realized our center halves are truly gash. You don't win games with the way we defend.

Without McKay. It is 100% a bad squad.

I'll add, when we cut players to reduce size of squad, for the sake of his career and my sanity, ryan Dow needs to be among them.

If we get the right manager, then time will tell.

I think there are worse squads than United's much higher up the league. And worse that have finished top four in recent years.

In this league desire, fight and hard work can take you an awful long way. Maybe this squad is filled with players who simply don't have that. Maybe they just need a manager that can bring it out in them.

Beharder · 03/10/2015 10:36 pm

Phobia ,if you say something often enough you will eventually believe it " He has thrown away a cup final" Surely the fact that our full team lost 6-1 months before in Glasgow would suggest that we were rather unlikely to turn that score around. We maybe went from having a 3% chance of victory to 1% overall a touch of hyperbole on your part.

Tek · 03/10/2015 11:05 pm

Sold 5 players in a year.All our top players.

Of course that's asset stripping.

Gonna leave it at that as we're going over old ground and at the end of the day if people think Thompson's doing a good job that's their opinion.

I doubt anything i say will change that perception.

But unfortunately i saw the signs this was coming months ago and i take no pleasure in saying that.

Arab_plumber · 03/10/2015 11:14 pm

It amazes me that fans still support Thompson after he has overseen one of the most dramatic capitulations I have ever seen any team have in a calendar year.

Also this Jets thing being viewed as acceptable and NOT interfering or influencing his decisions is simply staggering, he has clearly raked in a fortune in the transfers which he will be using to fund the jets deal.

Lives and breathes DUFC my fuckin arse