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huntedbyafreak · 18/9/2015 11:11 pm

If Devo Max had been an option I would have happily voted for that but the Unionist were adamant that it shouldn't be there because they thought a No Vote would finish the SNP apart from the fucking daft cunts that paint their faces blue. Instead the polls tightened and they had to rush through a pure dingie version of a "Vow". I will never forgive the Labour Party for their part in that and I will never buy a Scottish Newspaper again.

And they can stick their enhanced powers up their arse. I want the Death of Britain now

Foo Kin Twat · 18/9/2015 11:19 pm

Heh heh heh Hunted

Tora Tora Tora!

huntedbyafreak · 18/9/2015 11:30 pm

http://youtu.be/TGcb8aY2FR8

Pretty much nails it for me.

lifesanocean · 18/9/2015 11:34 pm

Andy wrote:
Beharder wrote:
As a happy no thanks voter the only thing that gives me the fear is the fact that the SNP are still talking about a referendum when they should be concentrating on running the country. Police Scotland has been a shambles, the NHS is in meltdown, we have kids turning up at secondary school who cant read or write and now Swinney has made a complete balls up of the funding of the futures trust leaving many new build schools and hospitals in indefinite limbo, how much longer will people swallow the thats Westminters fault line?
The SNP are answering questions about a referendum, with the First Minister repeatedly saying its not on the agenda.

School leavers do better than ever before and in 8 years of power the SNP have rebuilt or refurbished one fifth of all school buildings in Scotland.

Crime is at a 41 year low.

Scotland has higher employment than the rest of the UK.

Youth employment is at its highest level in a decade.

NHS waiting times in Scotland are among the lowest ever recorded.

But don't let facts get in the way of your point.

Crime is at a low because crime doesn't get recorded now because the Police have no manpower to investigate most things.

My cousin is a copper. 2 years ago on Black Friday he was on duty in Blairgowrie which is a real trouble spot and Black Friday is the busiest police day of the year. Want to know how many coppers were on in Blair; 1. Not even legal. My cousin on his own. There were 5 on in Perth.

The school that I work in won't get its new build because the SNP refused to admit to the EU that The Scottish Futures Trust is largely private money rather than the public money they said it was, so they cant get their subsidies and currently schools and hospitals will go unbuilt for god knows how long. But they are still going ahead with the Aberdeen City Bypass so thats ok so long as Swinney saves face.

I voted yes in the hope that we'd get rid of the arsehole Tories followed quickly by the arsehole SNP. Kiddy on left-wingers. Have they done anything of note outwith the referendum bill in the past 4 years? If they have its either been abandoned like abolishing corroboration or pissed folk off like named persons etc.

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huntedbyafreak · 18/9/2015 11:41 pm

"We could do these things if we had total control of the revenues generated in Scotland"

That'll be the answer.

A shit storm.

Beharder · 18/9/2015 11:45 pm

Thats what happens when you become yes city ocean aberdeen
istill needs to be convinced

lifesanocean · 18/9/2015 11:45 pm

A shit answer more like. They could do a lot more than they are at the moment. They are just choosing not to. Agendas.

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lifesanocean · 18/9/2015 11:47 pm

SNP already doing what Labour did and taking Dundee for granted.

huntedbyafreak · 18/9/2015 11:51 pm

lifesanocean wrote:
A shit answer more like. They could do a lot more than they are at the moment. They are just choosing not to. Agendas.

SCENES

huntedbyafreak · 18/9/2015 11:52 pm

lifesanocean wrote:
SNP already doing what Labour did and taking Dundee for granted.

Do you reckon? Maybe give it another 40 years before you can say that

The city is also undergoing a massive regeneration with an SNP council. That may have happened regardless and a lot of what is happening is largely superficial but the city is on the up IMO.

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Sieb22 · 19/9/2015 10:37 am

Foo Kin Twat wrote:
I agree with you Beharder.....and you missed out the Fire Service which is as fecked up as the Polis. There will be more of these Control Room feck ups....mark my words! If the SNP do as said and run the Country with what devolved powers they do have, independence will happen. But having seen the rush job with the Fire and Police Services and the cover ups re the finances of the projects in Dundee, they are not covering themselves in glory IMO. It's just plain stupid to be asking the question after 1 year. Look how well the SNP did in that General Election coz they were well drilled and all sung from the same hymn sheet....

Cant disagree too much with Fooky, but will give you a very quick brief of where the Fire Service is at the moment. Both Police and Fire Scotland have had a 'main' budget, and every year the budget is getting smaller and smaller, what the Police have done is cut from the front line and up, and the Fire Service has been cut from the top and down.

It hasnt hit the majority of the front line in terms of closing stations and losing fire appliances, BUT it will happen. Talks have been going on for a couple of years in regards to stations and obviously going the Police Scotland route with our control (999) staff. We are due to go the same way, I think 3 call centres for the whole of Scotland, for example any calls from Fife and the central area will go straight to Edinburgh. I wonder if they will know where Kilconquhar is or how to pronounce it!

Unfortunately I was at a messy fatality couple weeks back, we were helping out the Police to put up screens to hide the body from the public, and while the Scenes Of Crime guys were doing there thing I went and spoke to the lead Sargeant for the whole of Fife that night (we get along really well with the Police around here, unless its the motorway cops, they are pricks!), and he was telling me all the numbers he had at his disposal for Fife right now, and it was scary, all but two were at this job with us!

We were also lamenting the fact that both the Police and Fire Scotland were just becoming Strathclyde, which is something the irks me no end. We both had the oppertunity for one service in Scotland to sit down with our 8 individual fire services and take, for example, what Fife was good at in respects to one thing, and what Tayside was good at, and Strathclyde etc. so we could have started on a really strong footing. But as it turns out, and the same with the Police, we just all do what Strathclyde has done, good or bad, as they dont want to upset them and it was easier to pull the rest of us in line with them than sharing all our good points.

In my area, the legacy Fife area, we have went backwards so much to incorporate them in terms of Home Safety Visits, firefighting techniques and crew safety etc. Its really soul destrying, and the Police agree.

Never mind, in a few years time, along with the Ambulance Scotland, we will be all one big service anyway!

Foo Kin Twat · 19/9/2015 11:17 am

Great post Siebby. That's exactly what's happened. The likes of Fife, Grampian and Tayside Fire and Police Services have merely become satellites of Strathclyde Police and the Strathclyde Fire and Rescue Service. Politically motivated and ill thought out.

Sieb22 · 19/9/2015 11:39 am

Foo Kin Twat wrote:
Great post Siebby. That's exactly what's happened. The likes of Fife, Grampian and Tayside Fire and Police Services have merely become satellites of Strathclyde Police and the Strathclyde Fire and Rescue Service. Politically motivated and ill thought out.

Yes, a great opportunity missed

huntedbyafreak · 19/9/2015 12:36 pm

Police Scotland was a cost cutting exercise. Everyone knows it.

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PatReilly · 19/9/2015 9:44 pm

Indy Ref 2014 - 1 year on: whether you accept my belief or not, if another vote took place 'today' it would still be fixed.

Did your ballot paper have anything on the reverse?

Mine didn't.

And Corbyn is the leader of the Labour party because it suits the folk in power.

When the people who live in Scotland are of no further use to the elite, we'll be allowed to fuck off.

huntedbyafreak · 20/9/2015 12:18 am

I like Pat.

I cannot remember if my ballot paper had anything on then back. It had a massive Yes on the front though