Fresh false promises coming in the next week, they are worried now.



Front page also makes reference to an expected YouGov poll that *might* have Yes in front for the first time tomorrow.

Still think it'll be no but its close

Last edited by huntedbyafreak (06/9/2014 9:52 pm)

That's him !!

Boy that was the Doctor.
 

FS even Noam Chomsky, the only real person considered for my avatar many years ago, appreciates, understands and validates the case for independence.

Not quite Andy Clark or remotely lighthearted but eh liked it.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=J7HpE4k5JLc

arabugsy wrote:

Can anyone outside Dundee tell me the feeling on the vote elsewhere? I've been looking for no voters to convert but apparently Dundee is YES city so I'm struggling to find any.

Dundee is bookies favourite to return biggest %age of Yes victory. 
 

I think Hamilton is a real Battle ground going by the previous history and is a real labour stronghold. I'm living in westend of Glasgow the now and the place is awash with YES banners and posters everywhere. In my place of work in centre of Glasgow within my department is about 40 odd folk with the majority voting YES.

There is so many good positive signs, but I can't bring myself to get too positive about it. I fear the NO vote winning still.

The places where poverty is at it's highest will be high in YES votes (Dundee,Glasgow,North+South Lanarkshire).More affluent places like Perthshire,Edinburgh and Aberdeen will be closer to 50/50 i reckon and the vote could go either way.The Borders and parts of Dumfries+Galloway will perhaps be NO areas.

Reckon Ayrshire and the Highlands YES will shade it,same goes for Fife and Falkirk/Stirling area.Shetland Isles will definitely be YES imo.

Just my gut feeling.

I've always been very passionate about being Scottish and was educated by family of our history from a very young age. I have a good understanding of what it's taken to create and carry on our identity and nationality and the obstacles we've fought to overcome and be the nation we are so you'd think it would be an easy decision for me. It has been an absolute nightmare! I've a large young family, big morgage and work for a British company who make decisions from London and generally couldn't give a feck about us up here. Have been scared that I'll be looking for a new job and paying a higher morgage if we vote yes so it has taken me over a year to decide what I thought would be an automatic decision.
I was right to worry take my time because pride won't pay my bills but weighing things up worried about feck all. My yes vote was posted over 1 week ago as soon as I could tick that box.
I believe we will be at worst the same and surprised if not at least a little better off making our own decisions.

Last edited by Arabnophobia (09/9/2014 9:25 pm)

Arabnophobia wrote:

I've always been very passionate about being Scottish and was educated by family of our history from a very young age. I have a good understanding of what it's taken to create and carry on our identity and nationality and the obstacles we've fought to overcome and be the nation we are so you'd think it would be an easy decision for me. It has been an absolute nightmare! I've a large young family, big morgage and work for a British company who make decisions from London and generally couldn't give a feck about us up here. Have been scared that I'll be looking for a new job and paying a higher morgage if we vote yes so it has taken me over a year to decide what I thought would be an automatic decision.
I was right to worry take my time because pride won't pay my bills but weighing things up worried about feck all. My yes vote was posted over 1 week ago as soon as I could tick that box.
I believe we will be at worst the same and surprised if not at least a little better off making our own decisions.

Great post, can appreciate the dilemma for you but it was a no brainer when you take your family into account.

arabugsy wrote:

TEK wrote:

One of the most eye opening things in this 2 year process for me has been what i regard as the utter betrayal of Scotland by high profile Scots MP's who are represented in the HoP.

Whatever your political allegiance (and i have never had any great leaning towards anyone previously tbh) you always hoped,expected and maybe (in my case) naively asumed even that Scots like Gordon Brown,Jim Murphy,Alistair Darling,Liam Fox,Douglas Alexander,George Galloway etc had Scotland's interests at heart and would at least attempt to make sure our interests were fairly represented in London.

What has become abundantly clear is that NONE of these high profile Scots politicians give a fuck about the common man,woman and child in Scotland.They don't act for us.They don't care about us.

They act+care only for/about themselves.

Shameful the fucking lot of them.Scotland DESERVES better politicians than these self-serving bastards,and we are all slowly realising it.I sense a sea-change coming in the political spectrum.

Superb post.

What saddens me is it's always been the case and alternative options were always available but ignored until the present movement seemed to engage voters in a focussed way not generally experienced in party political elections.

Long may it continue for future Scottish Parliaments.

Oh and Bugs i forgot the biggest culprit of the lot.Fuckin "Lord Robertson of Port Elen".

A fucking arsehole of the very highest order,who clearly done whatever it took to climb the greasy poll to attain that peerage.

Anyone remember his shameful interview of about 18 months ago when he said 'Forces of Darkness' would love an Indy Scotland.He also almost spat out with disdain and contempt the view that the US (his new home) had only stayed neutral (at that point March 2013) in Scottish Independence because they had 'no belief whatsoever that it would ever happen'.Well Obama threw in his tuppence worth just a year later so that must have been an indication that Westminster were very rattled eh ?.

Listen to the utter contempt he has when he says the word 'Scotland' and when he talks of 'Nationalists'.Listen to the anger and belligerence in his tone when he is even remotely grilled by John Mackay.He had clearly become in his own eyes one of the 'Elite' who had became untouchable.A wee guy fae Edinburgh tae.Just shows you what throwing champagne,caviar+a title can do to some i suppose.

Scotland deserves so much better than these horrible self-serving career politicians/Lords who live off OUR money and treat us like the shit on their shoe.


 

'The Big Big Debate' away tae kick aff on Pravda Scotland1.

Scotia's young generation get the chance tae grill Dode Galloway.

I'll gee it 5 minutes.

Looks like a bunch of spoiled wee rich kids in smart blazers in the audience who are whooping at everything the NO lot say.

Or maybe Pravda1 are just turning up their mics more for the NO applause.