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19/3/2015 10:57 pm  #1


Is McNamara doing a good job?

Motherwellarab made a good point to me today.

Last season Jackie had players like Goodie,Gomis,Gauld,Robertson,Armstrong,GMS and Ciftci in his arsenal but we finished 12 points behind a workmanlike Motherwell.

We also of course lost 4 times to St.Johnstone,including most painfully a Cup Final.

This season we are currently 7 points behind 3rd placed Caley in a league with no Hearts,Hibs and Rangers.And probably the poorest Motherwell team for 10 years.

So is Jackie actually underachieving?Or do you think he's doing a good job under trying circumstances?

Just interested in gauging opinion at this point in the season.


Is Jackie doing a good job?









 

19/3/2015 11:12 pm  #2


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got decent ideas but he's not making right game changing decisions imo...there's something not right...


teams suss us out..not the other way round..he's openly said he's not concerned about other teams...thats naive imo

 

19/3/2015 11:13 pm  #3


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6/10 for me. Don't want him sacked. Think he talks a good game but often flatters to deceive.

You could say that a lot about United


Yeah yeah Industrial Estate
 

19/3/2015 11:13 pm  #4


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stobievulture wrote:

got decent ideas but he's not making right game changing decisions imo...there's something not right...

Yep. Agreed. More style than substance.
 


Yeah yeah Industrial Estate
 

19/3/2015 11:24 pm  #5


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Honestly i do like him but im begining to dislike him and question his commitment to take our club further..

some of his selections tactical decisions have been nuts.



 
 

19/3/2015 11:35 pm  #6


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There was one moment in last nights game i thought 'nah you're no for me Jackie'.

McGowan had been pushed about by their players...he's unfairly sent off and then as he's walking up the track Deila gives him abuse...Jackie just watches on.

I would have been right in the cunts face saying you concentrate on your own fucking players.

Can you imagine wee Jim or big Levein standing back and watching that ffs?

Now i'm not saying we need a frothing at the mouth mad man in charge but leadership comes from the top and you fight your players corner,particulary in a cauldron like Parkhead.

More than anything i want to see a bit of fire in the belly from him.

I actually like him as a man and i reckon the way he wants to play football is the correct way.But we need to learn how to roll up our sleeves and dig out a win when required.Teams tend to mirror their Gaffer.

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19/3/2015 11:36 pm  #7


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@The_Shed humble apologies i accidently deleted your post mate.

Was trying to edit a bit of it to reply too and fucked it up.

Eejit,sorry man.

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19/3/2015 11:44 pm  #8


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TEK wrote:

@The_Shed humble apologies i accidently deleted your post mate.

Was trying to edit a bit of it to reply too and fucked it up.

Eejit,sorry man.

 
Censorship on here now, have to start calling u Putin.

Honestly think he feels a beaten man just now, thats why its time to come out fighting ( not literally, but almost).

 

19/3/2015 11:46 pm  #9


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The Shed wrote:

 
Censorship on here now, have to start calling u Putin.

Honestly think he feels a beaten man just now, thats why its time to come out fighting ( not literally, but almost).

I see myself as more of a Lenin figure

That was the bit i was trying to reply to lol.Your comment about wanting to see him 'come out fighting'.

Spot on.
 

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20/3/2015 12:06 am  #10


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He's forgotten what actually brought him success in the first place; passing football and a fluid attacking front 4 who interchanged throughout the game. You can talk about the Timmy Twosome but we've still got boys who can play a bit like Connolly, Telfer, Dow, Erskine, Nads; four of whom should playing every week. This season our front 4 have been completely rigid and clearly under orders to stay in their positions. That is making us too easy to play against.

Its also worth nothing that in trying to make us more solid and physical defensively (which he's failed on since we continue to ship soft goals), he's sacrificed our ability to play out from the back. Fojut and to a lesser extent Morris just want to play aimless punts even when they are under no pressure. When we were doing our Brazil 1970 impression in October-December last season our back four was Wilson, Souttar, Gunning and Robertson. You can pick holes in them defensively, but all of them could pass the ball out from the back and Souttar and Robbo could bring the ball out from the back and make up for Patons lack of ability and Rankins unwillingness to take the ball off the back four and responsibility for starting attacks.

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Too much commotion
 

20/3/2015 12:14 am  #11


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Erskine is shite mate


Yeah yeah Industrial Estate
 

20/3/2015 12:20 am  #12


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Dunno if shite is the word I would use. He is definitely bipolar in his form though. Unfortunately he's back to last seasons form at the moment though. He's missing Armstrong's through balls.


Too much commotion
 

20/3/2015 12:31 am  #13


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huntedbyafreak wrote:

Erskine is shite mate

Wee bit harsh imo.

Been one of our better players this season.

Not saying he's the answer,but there are players more deserving of our scorn imo an aw that.
 

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20/3/2015 12:38 am  #14


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I could easily compile a list if you want?


Yeah yeah Industrial Estate
 

20/3/2015 1:04 am  #15


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@lao we don't have the players to play the way we did. We sold them all. That's the problem. We've lost players before but kept some crackers. In past 6 months we've sold 4 of our 5 best players. Losing Gauld and Robertson was always going to be hard to take. We were coping well though. Best start to a season since 1986. Selling the other 2 fucked us. Big time. Jackie not to blame for that.

However, the defence is fucking shite. It's got worse under him. That's his fault


Yeah yeah Industrial Estate
 

20/3/2015 1:09 am  #16


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huntedbyafreak wrote:

However, the defence is fucking shite. It's got worse under him. That's his fault

See looking at the back 4

McGowan ..Morris..Fojut..Dixon (with Dillon filling in at full back areas).

That looks a good back 4.

Begs the question why can't we keep a clean sheet ever?

Again the answers imo ultimately lead back to the Manager.

But again i ask,what do Jackson+Donnelly do to earn their wage?

I know what Stevie Campbell does.

I don't know what those other two do to enhance the players.


 

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20/3/2015 1:11 am  #17


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huntedbyafreak wrote:

I could easily compile a list if you want?

So could i lol.

Bilate,Anier,Rankin would be on it before the Squid.
 

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20/3/2015 1:12 am  #18


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Erskine had a purple patch but he's back to sheer awfulness. Lazy fucker with absolutely no stamina as well.

 

20/3/2015 1:18 am  #19


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Waffelz wrote:

Erskine had a purple patch but he's back to sheer awfulness. Lazy fucker with absolutely no stamina as well.

Agree about his cardio,it's pish.Only ever plays well in 1st half.

He's not lazy,he just can't last games.Only usefull for 1 half or as a sub,and no real pace.

Think he might go back to Thistle in the Summer.
 

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20/3/2015 1:20 am  #20


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TEK wrote:

huntedbyafreak wrote:

However, the defence is fucking shite. It's got worse under him. That's his fault

See looking at the back 4

McGowan ..Morris..Fojut..Dixon (with Dillon filling in at full back areas).

That looks a good back 4.

Begs the question why can't we keep a clean sheet ever?

Again the answers imo ultimately lead back to the Manager.

But again i ask,what do Jackson+Donnelly do to earn their wage?

I know what Stevie Campbell does.

I don't know what those other two do to enhance the players.


 

Dixon hasn't been great but will come good. McGowan looked poor first few game but was really good in past 3 games. Fojut and Morris have both been decent signings but team is never the same. He keeps changing and chopping it. I think Jackie fancies himself as a bit of a Mourinho.

A lot of the issues at the club are not Jackies fault. A fair share as his though
 


Yeah yeah Industrial Estate
 

20/3/2015 1:22 am  #21


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huntedbyafreak wrote:

TEK wrote:

huntedbyafreak wrote:

However, the defence is fucking shite. It's got worse under him. That's his fault

See looking at the back 4

McGowan ..Morris..Fojut..Dixon (with Dillon filling in at full back areas).

That looks a good back 4.

Begs the question why can't we keep a clean sheet ever?

Again the answers imo ultimately lead back to the Manager.

But again i ask,what do Jackson+Donnelly do to earn their wage?

I know what Stevie Campbell does.

I don't know what those other two do to enhance the players.


 

Dixon hasn't been great but will come good. McGowan looked poor first few game but was really good in past 3 games. Fojut and Morris have both been decent signings but team is never the same. He keeps changing and chopping it. I think Jackie fancies himself as a bit of a Mourinho.

A lot of the issues at the club are not Jackies fault. A fair share as his though
 

I think McGowan's been excellent considering he's just played a full season in China,and has came into a struggling side.

Looks Captain material to me bigtime.

Dickers has been poor but we all know how good a player he is.Here's hoping he recaptures his form starting on Saturday.

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20/3/2015 8:20 am  #22


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On the subject o jackson and donnely..

Jackie got his new deal last year.. which apparantly is very attractive.

They 2 never.. has there been anything signed by them since?



 
 

20/3/2015 10:14 am  #23


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Thing is about the defence,with the players we had last season, teams sat 10 yards further back cause they were shiting it we destroyed them on the burst....now they're 10 yards in front of where they're meant to be...right on top of paton etc...we either need to buy two with electric pace or change formation.....tbf to jmac he's been trying it...but we're engrained in 4-2-3-1...without the personnel

 

20/3/2015 10:19 am  #24


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I voted in the we are where we are category, but I also feel there is underachievement.

In spite of The Embra Teams and Sevco being in the Championship, we are behind them in terms of size of Club and are probably the 6th biggest in Scotland.  So if I was Chairman I would budget for a Top 6 finish and the quarters of each Cup.  You generally end up where you are 8 or 9 times out of 10 based on what your outlay is.  That is proven statistically time and time again.

The danger here is that we have missed a trick as far as this season is concerned, as we should be top 3 in the League and just about where we have landed in the Cups, especially with Celtic being 10x+ the size of Club we are.  I have a genuine fear that the Doomsday Scenario is that Dundee will pip us to the Top 6 on 8 April 2015  unless we dust ourselves down pronto!

We as supporters knew we were taking a chance having only one left back in the squad all season and that we were light up front and that has proved to be the case.

The inability to keep a clean sheet for well over 18 months is baffling and has to land at the door of the coaching (or lack of).

Our apparent lack of fitness and our inability to press has to land at the door of the coaching (as others manage to do it to us).

Games are won and lost now on the transition and the turn over of the ball.  In losing ARob, Gauldy, and the Timmy two, we have had our legs blown off.  At Hampden we were a goalie, 8 defensive players and 2 offensive players.  If you are gonna play like that fair enough, but you gotta keep a clean sheet 80% of the time, not 8% of the time.

At the Tattiedome we played with Dow up top and Cifti wider.  At least 2 or 3 times the ball flashed across the 6 yard box and because we don't have or play with a Predator Striker these vital chances go a begging.

We need to ensure Top 6 and regroup in the Summer.  Who that is with - who knows?



 

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20/3/2015 2:16 pm  #25


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Think we are about the right place considering the loss of players which is a board decision imo as Jackie is not going to be pushing the likes of Robertson or Gauld out the door.

As has been said he talks a bloody good game but it's not really happening on the pitch, mentality, mentality, mentality is mentioned almost every week. If they've not go it then he needs to strip the squad of the weak willed and get winners in. Only he and the Chairman can make that happen

 

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