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22/1/2015 12:01 am  #1


Utd under jmac

we're either exhilarating,brilliant and exciting to watch or fucking awful,disjointed,slow and painful

weird how an international defender canna boss a team that goes through periods of 5/6 games whaur we're hard to beat/break down...

 

22/1/2015 12:10 am  #2


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Incredibly, except for the Celtic game that was the first time in two months of league games that we've not conceded two goals or more.

 

22/1/2015 12:16 am  #3


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Hate criticising them mate, there's more good than bad...a lot more, but there's some bloody awful performances...we never look like we're not gonna concede

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22/1/2015 12:20 am  #4


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I like Jackie. He talks a good game BUT  at the end of last season if you'd asked a United fan what needed sorted they would have said the defence. Six months later it's still the defence that needs fixing. Jackie talks a lot about mental strength and it's a fair point some of our players do seem to lack it. Is it not his job to instill it in the players?

Some of our fans think he's fantastic but tbh I think he's doing ok but I wouldn't be gutted if another team came in for him and paid us for his services. I was when Levein left.

I like his philosophy of bringing young guys in it is the way forward but his insistence on playing fucking Paton all the time baffles me.

Last edited by huntedbyafreak (22/1/2015 12:23 am)


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22/1/2015 1:15 am  #5


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All the greatest Managers have one thing in common...they all build their teams fae the back.

He's 2 years in now and at no point have i felt confident in the back 4 or keeper to keep a clean sheet in any league game.

It need's sorted asap or we'll always just be nearlymen.

As for McNamara,never been convinced by him.

It's all very well him saying the team lacks bravery etc.teams tend to mirror their Manager imo.

 

22/1/2015 6:38 am  #6


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The big problem last night was punt  punt  punt ffs lets play the ball on the deck...once telfer came on he at least tried to when he had the ball cause everytime a defender had it punt right over the top of midfield and dillon wtf he kicked the ball out the park more than he passed it..the whole team were all over the shop...i think when ciftci is through and scores that cunt goodwin dives down to make it look like a foul..i thought armstrong played well but would have done alot more if defenders werent punting the ball...watson and fajoot nah nae danger fajoot looked shaky last night maybe no confidence in his partner..ach well roll on the well still a long way to go keep the faith 

 

22/1/2015 8:33 am  #7


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The semi final is now everything, we won't finish second and third might be a stretch now too, which is poor considering the talent in our team.

I'd actually prefer that we sold Armstrong and GMS now, providing we could spend some money on our defence.

Get in O'Donnell, Dixon, a centre half, and a goalkeeper now. Try and win both cups and start next season with a solid foundation.

Jackie can talk about mental strength until he's blue in the face, I don't think you can teach that on the training ground, if our players don't have it then get rid of them.

I don't like slagging players off but Rado, Watson and Rankin are hindering us.

 

22/1/2015 9:16 am  #8


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Andy wrote:

The semi final is now everything, we won't finish second and third might be a stretch now too, which is poor considering the talent in our team.

I'd actually prefer that we sold Armstrong and GMS now, providing we could spend some money on our defence.

Get in O'Donnell, Dixon, a centre half, and a goalkeeper now. Try and win both cups and start next season with a solid foundation.

Jackie can talk about mental strength until he's blue in the face, I don't think you can teach that on the training ground, if our players don't have it then get rid of them.

I don't like slagging players off but Rado, Watson and Rankin are hindering us.

 
100% in agreement Andy! Although Armstrong was about the only pass mark last night until Telfer came on!

If we were to get say £2.5 bank £1.5 and spend some cash on decent level players!!

 

22/1/2015 9:32 am  #9


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To be fair to jmac, a lot of those that are struggling for consistency and to improve us as a unit are players jmac inherited rather than bought...

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22/1/2015 5:03 pm  #10


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A lot of the talent we have was inherited as well. Jackie has been here 2 years now. Whilst some players have improved under him could you say the same about GMS? Jackie was a great right back has Watson improved under Jackie?

I'm not calling for Jackie's head. far from it I think he's done a decent job. Folk are still saying he's a young manager, that's true but is he not the longest serving manager in the league now?

Think it's only right that folk are starting to question him.


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22/1/2015 6:47 pm  #11


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good points hunted mate...funny as right back is oor achilles heel...got about 6 but no shoe in

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22/1/2015 8:07 pm  #12


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The defensive situation has always perplexed me given MacNamara's backround like a few of you are also saying. Fojut so far hasn't quite been the lynch pin we had hoped for which we really need.

The thing with players like Paton, Rankin, Watson along with a few others like them is they have shown a good game and have had good periods of form, especially last season so hasn't been questioned quite as much as it should of. But recently its really starting to show. Of course last night the main 3 listed are ones he brought straight back in when we all know 1 or 2 changes only if any at all were really needed on the back of the Accies victory. I can only hope he has his mind on the semi with these type of changes, but still uneccessary.

 

22/1/2015 8:29 pm  #13


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I like MacNamara as he has brought us exciting quality attacking football that TBH we could really only dream about watching be Dundee United fans, the only real criticism I have of him is he really does not know what his strongest side is, even when the whole squad is fit. That and he is very stubburn and would rather lose whilst sticking to his favoured 4-2-3-1 than go for broke and push wwith two wingers and two strikers.

He has also backed himself into a corner regarding his two holding midfielders, Paton is his guy, the next full time captain of the side IMO who he will never drop and John Rankin who last season was excellent and won a new bumper last chance big pay day contract and MacNamara probably feels he has to justify paying him as much by playing him.

Saturdays team selection will be interesting and i predict three maybe four changes to the starting XI.

Hopefully they are the right ones.

 

 

22/1/2015 9:37 pm  #14


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Rankin's started in all our losses this season, I think I'm correct in saying. Definitely all the crappy away games we've dropped points in anyway.

Gtfo as soon as possible, please.

 

22/1/2015 9:44 pm  #15


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Don't buy the quality attacking football stuff. We were red hot for about 6 weeks in Nov and Dec 2013. We've had some utter dire performances since. With the occasional very good performance. Truth be told there has probably been as many poor performances as good ones since then. There is also a question of 'bottle'. Every time thisseason we've had the chance to pull away from others or even put pressure on Aberdeen and Celtic we've put in a sub-standard performance. 

I'm far from a boo boy but there is definitely a soft centre in the team. Maybe that is down to the management team as well?


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22/1/2015 10:12 pm  #16


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Same as hunted, like jmac, want him to stay...but crave a bit of solidity
have heard quite a few rumours of discontent over the last year or so regarding training etc..always put it down to bullshit or shit stirrers but when you see some total inept performances like killie away, inverness away, partick,st Mirren etc you've got to wonder what the fuck...especially when we KNOW how good we can be

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22/1/2015 10:41 pm  #17


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I think it works both ways, we've been as good for Jackie as he's been for us.

We've got a great platform, a great youth set up, wonderful training facilities, loyal fans and an understanding chairman, pretty much the dream job.

I think finishing third, a semi and a qf is the absolute minimum acceptable season for what he has at his disposal, bearing in mind he's also the longest serving manager in the Premiership so knows his squad better than anyone else does their own.

 

22/1/2015 10:42 pm  #18


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If we don't finish 3rd in the poorest top league ever then Jackie hasn't done his job right. 


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22/1/2015 10:49 pm  #19


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huntedbyafreak wrote:

If we don't finish 3rd in the poorest top league ever then Jackie hasn't done his job right. 

watching a few games lately and some highlights online...i honestly think the standard of team we're playing against bar celtic and Aberdeen is by miles the worst in the top flight ever
 

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22/1/2015 10:52 pm  #20


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huntedbyafreak wrote:

Don't buy the quality attacking football stuff. We were red hot for about 6 weeks in Nov and Dec 2013. We've had some utter dire performances since. With the occasional very good performance. Truth be told there has probably been as many poor performances as good ones since then. There is also a question of 'bottle'. Every time thisseason we've had the chance to pull away from others or even put pressure on Aberdeen and Celtic we've put in a sub-standard performance. 

I'm far from a boo boy but there is definitely a soft centre in the team. Maybe that is down to the management team as well?

You don't think United play exciting attacking football?

Like you say those six weeks last season no one could touch us, we were on fire, this season though if we can get the correct four playing well together we are still a joy to watch.

The first half in the 1-0 away loss to Motherwell (lack of goals aside) was every bit as good, possibly better, as the six week period, if we had a natural goal scorer we would have broke records that night.
 

 

22/1/2015 10:56 pm  #21


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Rocky Raccoon wrote:

huntedbyafreak wrote:

Don't buy the quality attacking football stuff. We were red hot for about 6 weeks in Nov and Dec 2013. We've had some utter dire performances since. With the occasional very good performance. Truth be told there has probably been as many poor performances as good ones since then. There is also a question of 'bottle'. Every time thisseason we've had the chance to pull away from others or even put pressure on Aberdeen and Celtic we've put in a sub-standard performance. 

I'm far from a boo boy but there is definitely a soft centre in the team. Maybe that is down to the management team as well?

You don't think United play exciting attacking football?

Like you say those six weeks last season no one could touch us, we were on fire, this season though if we can get the correct four playing well together we are still a joy to watch.

The first half in the 1-0 away loss to Motherwell (lack of goals aside) was every bit as good, possibly better, as the six week period, if we had a natural goal scorer we would have broke records that night.
 

We are capable of playing some great stuff which is great to watch. We are also capable of putting in shite performances. This season we're probably 50/50 with great performances and shite performances.

I don't think we're as good as some folk think we are and our manager isn't as good as some think either.
 

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22/1/2015 10:57 pm  #22


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stobievulture wrote:

huntedbyafreak wrote:

If we don't finish 3rd in the poorest top league ever then Jackie hasn't done his job right. 

watching a few games lately and some highlights online...i honestly think the standard of team we're playing against bar celtic and Aberdeen is by miles the worst in the top flight ever
 

The league is shite with an average Celtic team and a good Aberdeen side. 

ICT, St Johnstone are well organised and decent units but we've got far better players than any side bar Celtic and Aberdeen. 
 


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22/1/2015 11:01 pm  #23


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I still don't think we've pulled together a 90 minute perfomance this season. The Fun games were the closest but the first game they clearly underestimated us and we physically dominated them rather than play particularly good football. New years day we were poor up until they scored but tbf played well afterwards (even if they are complete shite). The Aberdeen and Celtic games were workmanlike (I'll take that everytime against them mind you). Motherwell in the Scottish was dreadful first half but absolutely outstanding in the second. The best performance I've seen from us was St Mirren at home. That was for me the closest we've came to dominating for 90 minutes and playing like we did last season.

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22/1/2015 11:03 pm  #24


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lifesanocean wrote:

I still don't think we've pulled together a 90 minute perfomance this season. The Fun games were the closest but the first game they clearly underestimated us and we physically dominated them rather than play particularly good football. New years day we were poor up until they scored but tbf played well afterwards. The Aberdeen and Celtic games were workmanlike (I'll take that everytime against them mind you). Motherwell in the Scottish was dreadful first half but absolutely outstanding in the second. The best performance I've seen from us was St Mirren at home. That was for me the closest we've came a dominating for 90 minutes and playing like we did last season.

We were shite in that St Mirren game until we scored


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23/1/2015 4:35 am  #25


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So who would be your ideal manager to bring in ?

 

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